Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (13 Viewers)

Sick Boy

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I don't think it is a shame with her tbf, as she's an appalling c**t:





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What a vile c**t.
 

Sick Boy

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“Just giving their opinion”

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Fucking hell.
I think that despite the bravado the anti-vaxx lot are unable to accept the reality of the situation and can’t face the fact that the situation is out of control, hence the bullshit narratives about it being fake, pre-planned, controlled, NHS conspiracy etc.
Their behaviour is disgusting though and offensive to the NHS workers who’ve given so much over the last 18 months.
 

wingy

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What are the studies on how the vaccine affects transmission rates?

Can't find anything anywhere.
Not sure.
Think they seemed to think of hope it was very effective in Israel at the point of mass vaccination but the Indian/Delta variant reduced it

Really not certain at all but think it's low may have seen 50% at one point but I do remember feeling crest fallen that it wasn't going to be the magic bullet.
 

SBT

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Thanks for posting that.

Doesn't seem particularly reassuring whatsoever to be honest.

What doesn’t seem reassuring?

From the first one:
several of the available vaccines appear to limit infection and viral replication, often lowering viral load beneath the threshold for transmission and preventing symptoms…many studies show significant efficacy in preventing transmission for some vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson vaccines

From the second one:
We provide empirical evidence suggesting that vaccination may reduce transmission by showing that vaccination of health care workers is associated with a decrease in documented cases of Covid-19 among members of their households. This finding is reassuring for health care workers and their families.

What stood out for you?
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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What doesn’t seem reassuring?

From the first one:


From the second one:


What stood out for you?

'Given that vaccination reduces asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2,2,3 it is plausible that vaccination reduces transmission; however, data from clinical trials and observational studies are lacking.'


The studies largely say nothing.
 

SBT

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'Given that vaccination reduces asymptomatic infection with SARS-CoV-2,2,3 it is plausible that vaccination reduces transmission; however, data from clinical trials and observational studies are lacking.'


The studies largely say nothing.

That sentence you’ve quoted is immediately followed by another saying the authors have subsequently gathered “reassuring” empirical evidence though?

The studies were lacking; now they’re showing good news!
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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That sentence you’ve quoted is immediately followed by another saying the authors have subsequently gathered “reassuring” empirical evidence though?

The studies were lacking; now they’re showing good news!

I hope you are right. Just seems to me the jury is out still.

I desperately want the vaccine to be the way out of this, but I'm losing a lot of hope that it is going to be the case.
 

SBT

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As I said, there seems to be a lack of studies that I could find at least. That's why I asked.

The ones you posted hardly cover the positive in glory though do they?

They seem pretty positive to me!

I found them on page 1 of the Google results for “vaccine transmission”, it took me 30 seconds. So I’m sure there are many more studies out there if you want them.

In the absence of any studies that say the vaccines are worthless in terms of preventing transmission (and obviously that is far from their only/main benefit), I’m feeling even more grateful that we’ve got the vaccines we have.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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They seem pretty positive to me!

I found them on page 1 of the Google results for “vaccine transmission”, it took me 30 seconds. So I’m sure there are many more studies out there if you want them.

In the absence of any studies that say the vaccines are worthless in terms of preventing transmission (and obviously that is far from their only/main benefit), I’m feeling even more grateful that we’ve got the vaccines we have.

Well, I am very glad that it satisfies your curiosity. That's good.

Unfortunately for me I don't feel the same way.
 

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