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How can such a gorgeous woman cause such an annoyance!

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She should have apologised to Ched. Well she shouldn’t have piped up in the first place
 

chiefdave

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People at work getting made up jobs which mean they don’t actually have any work to do and get to play managers without any hassle.
Need something stronger than like for this. There's people I have no clue what they actually do all day despite having worked with them for years. Not to mention that they can go on leave for weeks at a time without anyone noticing.

We had a couple of rounds of redundancy, blamed on covid, yet nobody in those sort of roles was impacted. Meanwhile our front line, client facing, staff dropped from 14 to 8, and there's now 4 apprentices in the 8. Nice cheap, sub minimum wage, labour with their low wages subsidised. Employed on the basis there might be a job for them at the end - there won't be. Nothing against them but they aren't qualified for the roles they are doing, and there's no training so they aren't learning anything, which just means more work piled on to those of us who know what we are doing.

Did suggest that the reason we're constantly overwhelmed with work and struggling to tread water is because we got rid of half the staff without a corresponding loss of clients but got a right bollocking for that.
 

Sbarcher

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Need something stronger than like for this. There's people I have no clue what they actually do all day despite having worked with them for years. Not to mention that they can go on leave for weeks at a time without anyone noticing.

We had a couple of rounds of redundancy, blamed on covid, yet nobody in those sort of roles was impacted. Meanwhile our front line, client facing, staff dropped from 14 to 8, and there's now 4 apprentices in the 8. Nice cheap, sub minimum wage, labour with their low wages subsidised. Employed on the basis there might be a job for them at the end - there won't be. Nothing against them but they aren't qualified for the roles they are doing, and there's no training so they aren't learning anything, which just means more work piled on to those of us who know what we are doing.

Did suggest that the reason we're constantly overwhelmed with work and struggling to tread water is because we got rid of half the staff without a corresponding loss of clients but got a right bollocking for that.
Not surprised you got a bollocking - how dare you make suggestions which might affect the KPI's for the Management Performance Bonus!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Need something stronger than like for this. There's people I have no clue what they actually do all day despite having worked with them for years. Not to mention that they can go on leave for weeks at a time without anyone noticing.

We had a couple of rounds of redundancy, blamed on covid, yet nobody in those sort of roles was impacted. Meanwhile our front line, client facing, staff dropped from 14 to 8, and there's now 4 apprentices in the 8. Nice cheap, sub minimum wage, labour with their low wages subsidised. Employed on the basis there might be a job for them at the end - there won't be. Nothing against them but they aren't qualified for the roles they are doing, and there's no training so they aren't learning anything, which just means more work piled on to those of us who know what we are doing.

Did suggest that the reason we're constantly overwhelmed with work and struggling to tread water is because we got rid of half the staff without a corresponding loss of clients but got a right bollocking for that.

What’s your line of work Chief?
 

SBAndy

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You joke but I’ve seen schools cut budgets by sacking anyone experienced and getting in a metric fuck ton of NQTs and Teach Firsts. Happens all over.

Didn’t realise, but equally I’m not overly surprised. This manic need to cut staff (in every single industry) is mind-boggling. Spoke to a chap yesterday who runs a cycling shop, business absolutely booming, probably up 40-50% in sales and yet has focussed so much on cutting costs that the idea of taking on another employee is the last thing on his mind.
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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Need something stronger than like for this. There's people I have no clue what they actually do all day despite having worked with them for years. Not to mention that they can go on leave for weeks at a time without anyone noticing.

We had a couple of rounds of redundancy, blamed on covid, yet nobody in those sort of roles was impacted. Meanwhile our front line, client facing, staff dropped from 14 to 8, and there's now 4 apprentices in the 8. Nice cheap, sub minimum wage, labour with their low wages subsidised. Employed on the basis there might be a job for them at the end - there won't be. Nothing against them but they aren't qualified for the roles they are doing, and there's no training so they aren't learning anything, which just means more work piled on to those of us who know what we are doing.

Did suggest that the reason we're constantly overwhelmed with work and struggling to tread water is because we got rid of half the staff without a corresponding loss of clients but got a right bollocking for that.

We are making that much money that they don’t care what is happening at some point we will have a little slow down and they will say to the workers that we need to stagger start times to cut the overtime that we do (no choice on overtime you have to do it). Management is massively bloated we actually had a shift where our department had more managers than staff in. The office is just a place they sit and do nothing they have been caught playing football in there, I had to do some training one night and people were sitting with their feet on the desk watching YouTube.
 

shmmeee

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Didn’t realise, but equally I’m not overly surprised. This manic need to cut staff (in every single industry) is mind-boggling. Spoke to a chap yesterday who runs a cycling shop, business absolutely booming, probably up 40-50% in sales and yet has focussed so much on cutting costs that the idea of taking on another employee is the last thing on his mind.

So many employers don’t see the value in their own staff. It’s so hard for them to see hidden costs around hiring and onboarding and knowledge retention.
 

Marty

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We are making that much money that they don’t care what is happening at some point we will have a little slow down and they will say to the workers that we need to stagger start times to cut the overtime that we do (no choice on overtime you have to do it). Management is massively bloated we actually had a shift where our department had more managers than staff in. The office is just a place they sit and do nothing they have been caught playing football in there, I had to do some training one night and people were sitting with their feet on the desk watching YouTube.

My gaffer is currently sat behind me, feet on his desk with his eyes shut, listening to music. Normal day at my place :ROFLMAO:
 

shmmeee

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Useful for wiping out Union influence and not having to have any meaningful work life balance plans because they don’t know any different.

Yep, always good when you’ve just taken over as an academy sponsor and collected your free land and want to squeeze a bit more out of your investment.
 

chiefdave

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What’s your line of work Chief?
I work in SMB IT support. Whole industry seems to have gone to shit in the last 10 years. Companies are now run by non-technical people that have no idea about the service they are selling, basically like mini Sercos / Carillion etc, just trying to extract as much cash as possible. Everything is about getting calls closed no matter if something is properly fixed or not, nobody is bothered about quality of work anymore. The desperation to get as many clients as possible has led to everyone trying to offer 24/7/365 support instead of 9-5 but without the staff to cover it.

Pay is stagnent (worked out recently if pay had increased just by inflation since 2010 I'd be on £12K a year more than I am) and there's regular staff cuts with the extra work dumped on those left as 'you're lucky to haver a job'. Was always a Monday - Friday, 9-5 job. Now I start at 8am at the latest and a 6pm finish (with no breaks in the day) would be an exceptionally short day, not good when you don't get overtime as its just an expected part of the job. And then when you're not at work there's texts and calls from people who don't know what they're doing.
So many employers don’t see the value in their own staff. It’s so hard for them to see hidden costs around hiring and onboarding and knowledge retention.
Its ridiculous, since 2010 pay rises have become virtually non existent. bonuses have stopped, all benefits have gradually dropped away, even holiday allowance has dropped and so many restrictions put in place on when you can take it you struggle to use the few days you are allowed. Don't get any training, that's now something you're supposed to do yourself outside work hours, yet mangers will agree to support absolutely anything irrespective of if there's anyone who actually knows what they're doing with it.

Supply and demand seems to go out the window with employees. Every time we try and recruit someone who actually has experience and knows what they're doing its a huge struggle to find anyone up to the job and takes months, and its been the same at the last two companies I was at. Surely at that point salaries should be going up!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I work in SMB IT support. Whole industry seems to have gone to shit in the last 10 years. Companies are now run by non-technical people that have no idea about the service they are selling, basically like mini Sercos / Carillion etc, just trying to extract as much cash as possible. Everything is about getting calls closed no matter if something is properly fixed or not, nobody is bothered about quality of work anymore. The desperation to get as many clients as possible has led to everyone trying to offer 24/7/365 support instead of 9-5 but without the staff to cover it.

Pay is stagnent (worked out recently if pay had increased just by inflation since 2010 I'd be on £12K a year more than I am) and there's regular staff cuts with the extra work dumped on those left as 'you're lucky to haver a job'. Was always a Monday - Friday, 9-5 job. Now I start at 8am at the latest and a 6pm finish (with no breaks in the day) would be an exceptionally short day, not good when you don't get overtime as its just an expected part of the job. And then when you're not at work there's texts and calls from people who don't know what they're doing.

Sounds the same as teaching, the sweet spot in senior management where all they seem to do is hold meetings and take a couple of lessons a week. The previous head could be seen ordering trolleys of food and drink to his office every morning and dossing about. Idiot had a glass wall!
 

shmmeee

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I work in SMB IT support. Whole industry seems to have gone to shit in the last 10 years. Companies are now run by non-technical people that have no idea about the service they are selling, basically like mini Sercos / Carillion etc, just trying to extract as much cash as possible. Everything is about getting calls closed no matter if something is properly fixed or not, nobody is bothered about quality of work anymore. The desperation to get as many clients as possible has led to everyone trying to offer 24/7/365 support instead of 9-5 but without the staff to cover it.

Pay is stagnent (worked out recently if pay had increased just by inflation since 2010 I'd be on £12K a year more than I am) and there's regular staff cuts with the extra work dumped on those left as 'you're lucky to haver a job'. Was always a Monday - Friday, 9-5 job. Now I start at 8am at the latest and a 6pm finish (with no breaks in the day) would be an exceptionally short day, not good when you don't get overtime as its just an expected part of the job. And then when you're not at work there's texts and calls from people who don't know what they're doing.

Its ridiculous, since 2010 pay rises have become virtually non existent. bonuses have stopped, all benefits have gradually dropped away, even holiday allowance has dropped and so many restrictions put in place on when you can take it you struggle to use the few days you are allowed. Don't get any training, that's now something you're supposed to do yourself outside work hours, yet mangers will agree to support absolutely anything irrespective of if there's anyone who actually knows what they're doing with it.

Supply and demand seems to go out the window with employees. Every time we try and recruit someone who actually has experience and knows what they're doing its a huge struggle to find anyone up to the job and takes months, and its been the same at the last two companies I was at. Surely at that point salaries should be going up!

Preach. Having this exact issue now. Need to hire people in, we keep getting absolute garbage apply because our pay and conditions are awful, but they’re insistent “there’s lots of good talent around now, people are glad for a job so we can pick something up cheap” well where the hell are they then?

Same with people leaving after a year on average, apparently despite them all loudly saying it’s pay and conditions we just keep being unlucky and hiring the wrong type of people.
 

fernandopartridge

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Preach. Having this exact issue now. Need to hire people in, we keep getting absolute garbage apply because our pay and conditions are awful, but they’re insistent “there’s lots of good talent around now, people are glad for a job so we can pick something up cheap” well where the hell are they then?

Same with people leaving after a year on average, apparently despite them all loudly saying it’s pay and conditions we just keep being unlucky and hiring the wrong type of people.
My employer is the same. The rhetoric that people are "lucky" to be employed yet simultaneously from "hard working families", "doers" "stringers" etc fucks me right off.
 

chiefdave

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the sweet spot in senior management where all they seem to do is hold meetings and take a couple of lessons a week.
I found out, by accident as clearly nobody was supposed to know, that all the management positions at our place had changed to a 4 day week. No reduction in pay of course. This was pre-covid and at that point people in those roles were allowed to work from home where those they were supposed to be managing had to go into the office!

In a company of no more than 25 staff in total and being in a senior, non-management, position I still have 4 managers higher up the chain than me! Yet every time I try and one of them involved in something the work ends up getting pushed back on to me.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I found out, by accident as clearly nobody was supposed to know, that all the management positions at our place had changed to a 4 day week. No reduction in pay of course. This was pre-covid and at that point people in those roles were allowed to work from home where those they were supposed to be managing had to go into the office!

In a company of no more than 25 staff in total and being in a senior, non-management, position I still have 4 managers higher up the chain than me! Yet every time I try and one of them involved in something the work ends up getting pushed back on to me.

I looked at the timetables of those in senior management. One only has PSHE and one KS4 class, the rest includes timetabled days with no lessons. Hence they spend their time sending out emails trying to justify their position and getting teachers to do more on their behalf. It’s the life
 

SBAndy

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I found out, by accident as clearly nobody was supposed to know, that all the management positions at our place had changed to a 4 day week. No reduction in pay of course. This was pre-covid and at that point people in those roles were allowed to work from home where those they were supposed to be managing had to go into the office!

In a company of no more than 25 staff in total and being in a senior, non-management, position I still have 4 managers higher up the chain than me! Yet every time I try and one of them involved in something the work ends up getting pushed back on to me.

Any vacancies? Could do with one of these sit-on-your-arse 4 day week jobs!
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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We have had to work through the pandemic our lazy big boss shielded and was doing his minimal work at home, had to come in because his assistant was suspended for suspected sexual harassment. While the boss was in made a racist comment and got sacked. The guy that was on the harassment charge got away with it and has been promoted. You could not make this shit up
 

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