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Southgate will say we are planning for two years time or further and the fa will lap it up
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covcity4life
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Don't comment then? Not sure why people get on Southgate back. He clearly is a good player whisperer . We do put together some lovely play at times. We breeze qualifiers and got to semi of the world cup. He's doing s good job
SBAndy
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Stop talking absolute nonsense. What handling of Jack Grealish? He was in the last squad and, if I’m not mistaken, started all 3 international games. He’s injured. And Mason Mount is a good player. Honestly, fucking rent-a-quote over here hearing something said on Talksport then parroting it as your own for a week.
NortonSkyBlue
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By god you are not content unless you are demanding a manager be sacked. Were you picked on by your line manager @ McDonalds or something?
Offhegoes
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Out of all the managers we've had since relegation from the Premier League, I acutally quite liked Boothroyd. He made us much tougher and brought some decent players into the team (Keogh, King).. We had some rough injuries which curtailed our form, and I thought he was unlucky to be dismissed to be honest. We moved onto Andy Thorn of course.....Preferred him to Peter Reid, Chris Coleman & Ian Dowie.
Frostie
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Mason Mount is an incredible talent, the way he's criticised by so many just because he's not as flashy as Grealish, Maddison etc. is criminal but typical football fan mentality.
Thankfully every manager he's ever had knows how important he is.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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Appointing average managers didn't help, but the golden generation caused their own failures and the majority have admitted to that.
The lack of chemistry between the players due to the rivalry of Liverpool, Manchester United, Chelsea and Arsenal at the time, seriously hindered our chances of ever becoming a successful side. Sven probably should have done better to break down those barriers between the players but in all honesty I think any manager would have struggled to do that as it was during a time when the PL - and egos - really began to blow up.
KenilworthSkyBlue
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It's also an incredibly lazy opinion that feeds to the narrative of the uninformed who barely watch football.
He's probably one of our best players but because of pub talk the typical football fan doesn't want to listen.
Frostie
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Same people that hailed him as Lampard's pet & claimed that as soon as he was sacked no decent manager would pick him...
Of course Tuchel comes in & he's practically first name on the teamsheet.
fernandopartridge
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I don't rate Southgate but then don't see the point of replacing him either. Who with? His results are about what they should be overall. You'd certainly keep him until after the Euros given where we are.
As for the golden generation, unfortunately the talent wasn't as well distributed and different members of that generation peaked at different times, so not sure there was ever a golden period. Didn't often get much luck either.
As for the golden generation, unfortunately the talent wasn't as well distributed and different members of that generation peaked at different times, so not sure there was ever a golden period. Didn't often get much luck either.
fernandopartridge
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That touch for the first goal bringing the ball out of the air and changing direction was magic
KenilworthSkyBlue
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I don't like Southgate either. His tactics are incredibly negative which only serves to bottleneck our talent at the top end of the pitch, the team often plays with zero intensity and we fail to get the ball up the pitch quick enough. But despite that, there's genuinely nothing to warrant sacking him as he's done far better than any of his predecessors for the past 15 or so years.
I think it'll be interesting to see how we fare against the better international sides, especially in the Euros. I expect us to struggle personally.
stevefloyd
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Bellingham is playing mens football so why does he have to drop into 'kids' football? maybe he would feel a little insulted! If they are good enough they are old enough!
Look at Haaland would you say that he could play unders football?
SBAndy
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This attitude is part of the problem. Most of the u21 team play men’s football ffs, it’s not some jolly crèche based out of St George’s Park. And Haaland did his time in his u20/u21 side in 2018-2019. What’s your point?
cc84cov
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Mount is not in the same world as Grealish their stats in the premier league show this
Frostie
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Go on then... Looking forward to this.
cc84cov
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Compare their goals assists key passes most fouls Grealish is miles ahead in the chances created 20+ ahead of De Bruyne
Terry Gibson's perm
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Good news Boothroyd is not considering his future position which is good cause he shouldn’t have one.
No doubt the idiot fa have given him a long term contract so he will cost a fortune to get rid of as he won’t resign, these England roles should be relatively low paid with huge win bonuses for winning things not not qualification against people like San Marino and Luxembourg.
No doubt the idiot fa have given him a long term contract so he will cost a fortune to get rid of as he won’t resign, these England roles should be relatively low paid with huge win bonuses for winning things not not qualification against people like San Marino and Luxembourg.
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cc84cov
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As I suspected, Assists
And their ball retention & defensive stats?
They are vying for England spots and could be difference in Premier League race
England are blessed with a wealth of young talent all fighting for a space in Gareth Southgate’s side. Many of them are the creative forces driving the success at some of the top Premier League clu…
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Attacking midfielders & your talking about defensive stats
Ccfcisparks
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Mount played CM yesterday...They are vying for England spots and could be difference in Premier League race
England are blessed with a wealth of young talent all fighting for a space in Gareth Southgate’s side. Many of them are the creative forces driving the success at some of the top Premier League clu…
Attacking midfielders & your talking about defensive stats
Frostie
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They are vying for England spots and could be difference in Premier League race
England are blessed with a wealth of young talent all fighting for a space in Gareth Southgate’s side. Many of them are the creative forces driving the success at some of the top Premier League clu…
Attacking midfielders & your talking about defensive stats
Oh dear.
Fwiw, it's worth they should both be in the team, just wanted to expose your lack of understanding.
Terry Gibson's perm
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On Boothroyd it must be hard for the players to be interested when he talks a lot have left top managers.
Klopp, Ancelotti, Jose and they have to listen to Aidy Bloody Boothroyd.
Klopp, Ancelotti, Jose and they have to listen to Aidy Bloody Boothroyd.
Evo1883
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When it comes to grealish and mount , there is some big club bias there ...it's hard to look at the stats and say otherwise.
I quite like both tbh , however when it comes to all round game they are quite similar but where grealish excells is defensively , his duals won etc .
It's worth remembering that grealish has similar stats in a much worse team too
I quite like both tbh , however when it comes to all round game they are quite similar but where grealish excells is defensively , his duals won etc .
It's worth remembering that grealish has similar stats in a much worse team too
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Ccfcisparks
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Think both either side of Rice would be really good.
cc84cov
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He’s predominantly an attacking midfielder tho
So if Kane is up front,Grealish plays who’s the other attacking midfielder? Mount is not ahead of rashford or sterling either
cc84cov
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Still young he’s got potential my blues pal was absolutely raving about him against San Marino lol it was a painful listen
Evo1883
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Like I said they are quite similar but grealish is a bit better defensively ...and aswell he's created a higher % of big chances per game than mount ...and has better long ball accuracy.According to @Frostie Mount is far better defensively & with ball retention
100% if Grealish played for a top 4 team or London club he would be ahead of Mount,1 is doing it for a average team the other is surrounded by world class players
Mount passes more per game though
Evo1883
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Mason Mount Statistics | Premier League
View stats of Chelsea Midfielder Mason Mount, including goals scored, assists and appearances, on the official website of the Premier League.
www.premierleague.com
cc84cov
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Grealish is wayyy out in front in terms of goals his chances created he’s 20+ Aheat of De Bruyne
Evo1883
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Jack Grealish Statistics | Premier League
View stats of Manchester City Midfielder Jack Grealish, including goals scored, assists and appearances, on the official website of the Premier League.
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