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hill83

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I think this reopening will backfire to an extent, the pub experience just won't be the same for people and they'll go once and wait again. Meanwhile the pubs will find themselves struggling to get punters in yet paying staff etc. If there is another spike of infection that'll be catastrophic.

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skybluetony176

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I think this reopening will backfire to an extent, the pub experience just won't be the same for people and they'll go once and wait again. Meanwhile the pubs will find themselves struggling to get punters in yet paying staff etc. If there is another spike of infection that'll be catastrophic.
WOULD YOU RATHER LIVE IN ITALY?!
 

skybluetony176

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I think this reopening will backfire to an extent, the pub experience just won't be the same for people and they'll go once and wait again. Meanwhile the pubs will find themselves struggling to get punters in yet paying staff etc. If there is another spike of infection that'll be catastrophic.

But yeah, you’re right. You’ve only got to look at what’s happening in the US and you know what’s coming. Especially in England. I suspect that Northern Ireland and Scotland have a handle on this now with Wales not far behind, England on the other hand have Boris and Co so if ever anyone was questioning if devolution worked...
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Got myself in trouble at work.

I was forced to take two weeks of my holiday when I didn't want to. Went to Amsterdam last week and as a result am currently almost half way through my 14 day self-isolation.

Our office opens next week for skeleton staff (which I am not a part of). Previously I was informed as per my work from home contract that I could come to the office when I want to but need to book a hot desk. This was an audio conversation but equally there is an email which has my desk greyed out for social distancing.

Now my boss (different one) has told me he wants me in the office twice a week starting from next week. I said I would be happy to do that but from the week after due to self-isolation.

I now got a severe bollocking and have been told I should have booked an extra week off if I wanted to go away. I suspect he did it on purpose actually as he replied to me almost instantly and seems to be on a power trip at the moment.

It is going to director level next week, and surprise surprise my probation period is 'supposed' to end on Monday.

Any thoughts/ideas/advice?
 

shmmeee

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Got myself in trouble at work.

I was forced to take two weeks of my holiday when I didn't want to. Went to Amsterdam last week and as a result am currently almost half way through my 14 day self-isolation.

Our office opens next week for skeleton staff (which I am not a part of). Previously I was informed as per my work from home contract that I could come to the office when I want to but need to book a hot desk. This was an audio conversation but equally there is an email which has my desk greyed out for social distancing.

Now my boss (different one) has told me he wants me in the office twice a week starting from next week. I said I would be happy to do that but from the week after due to self-isolation.

I now got a severe bollocking and have been told I should have booked an extra week off if I wanted to go away. I suspect he did it on purpose actually as he replied to me almost instantly and seems to be on a power trip at the moment.

It is going to director level next week, and surprise surprise my probation period is 'supposed' to end on Monday.

Any thoughts/ideas/advice?

TBH if you’re on probation still I’d wind my neck in and eat some humble pie depending on how much you want to keep your job and the current economy. Are you in a Union?
 

fernandopartridge

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Got myself in trouble at work.

I was forced to take two weeks of my holiday when I didn't want to. Went to Amsterdam last week and as a result am currently almost half way through my 14 day self-isolation.

Our office opens next week for skeleton staff (which I am not a part of). Previously I was informed as per my work from home contract that I could come to the office when I want to but need to book a hot desk. This was an audio conversation but equally there is an email which has my desk greyed out for social distancing.

Now my boss (different one) has told me he wants me in the office twice a week starting from next week. I said I would be happy to do that but from the week after due to self-isolation.

I now got a severe bollocking and have been told I should have booked an extra week off if I wanted to go away. I suspect he did it on purpose actually as he replied to me almost instantly and seems to be on a power trip at the moment.

It is going to director level next week, and surprise surprise my probation period is 'supposed' to end on Monday.

Any thoughts/ideas/advice?

Can't see how you're being unreasonable, you're working from home and sensibly you are isolating so as not to put colleagues at risk. Your boss sounds utterly utterly stupidm
 

hill83

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You can be called back in with 24 hours notice I think. Regardless of what was previously agreed. I’d have booked the extra time off knowing I would be needing to isolate after coming back from abroad. No real help but that’s what I would have done.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Oh and now the government have stated that from tomorrow you can basically go on holiday anywhere again.

So if I had come back from Amsterdam tomorrow I could go straight to the pub, but because I came back last Sunday I have to sit at home for another week.

Yep, makes a lot of sense.
 

clint van damme

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Oh and now the government have stated that from tomorrow you can basically go on holiday anywhere again.

So if I had come back from Amsterdam tomorrow I could go straight to the pub, but because I came back last Sunday I have to sit at home for another week.

Yep, makes a lot of sense.

I think you might be wrong about your isolation period.
Just heard Simon Calder on the radio and he seemed to suggest that your isolation period can end early if the country you've been to is having travel restrictions lifted within your isolation.period which I'm assuming Holland is
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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I think you might be wrong about your isolation period.
Just heard Simon Calder on the radio and he seemed to suggest that your isolation period can end early if the country you've been to is having travel restrictions lifted within your isolation.period which I'm assuming Holland is

That's amazing if true. You seen it printed anywhere?
 

clint van damme

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That's amazing if true. You seen it printed anywhere?

no, Simon Calder who's a travel journalist was interviewed, it was on in the back ground but I'm sure that's what he said but worth checking.
He also described the whole thing as a 'dogs dinner'!
It was on 5Live breakfast show, it may be available on their website or IPlayer.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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no, Simon Calder who's a travel journalist was interviewed, it was on in the back ground but I'm sure that's what he said but worth checking.
He also described the whole thing as a 'dogs dinner'!
It was on 5Live breakfast show, it may be available on their website or IPlayer.

Yeah, he's quite good actually. I managed to scroll through his twitter feed and he seems to indicate that from the 10th you don't need to self-isolate even if you came back before then. As long as it is one of the listed countries of course.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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That's amazing if true. You seen it printed anywhere?

He told BBC Breakfast that passengers who are currently isolating for 14 days will be able to break the restrictions legally from next Friday.
He said while “nothing could happen” before July 10, “from that point onward you will be legal not to quarantine yourself”.

“It’s very important to stress the quarantine does exist until July 10,” Mr Shapps said.

While quarantine measures will be lifted, passengers arriving in the UK will still need to fill out a “locator form”, Mr Shapps said.
He told BBC Breakfast that passengers who are currently isolating for 14 days will be able to break the restrictions legally from next Friday.

Here's what we know about when the 14-day travel quarantine will end

He said while “nothing could happen” before July 10, “from that point onward you will be legal not to quarantine yourself”.

“It’s very important to stress the quarantine does exist until July 10,” Mr Shapps said.

While quarantine measures will be lifted, passengers arriving in the UK will still need to fill out a “locator form”, Mr Shapps said.
 

Skybluefaz

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I mean, there are more clued up people than me on here who may be able to point out the legitimacy of this contract. I just don't get it though. How is this not front page news?
 

skybluetony176

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I mean, there are more clued up people than me on here who may be able to point out the legitimacy of this contract. I just don't get it though. How is this not front page news?

Jobs for the boys. All these Tory linked tax dodging off shore companies will do is purchase from already established manufacturers and then sell into the government with a nice mark up, they’re probably even competing with government departments to buy stock up from already established manufacturers pushing the price up. Would have been much better to give a larger number of smaller contracts to the U.K. companies who could have switched production to PPE paying tax on that income while protecting the U.K. jobs of U.K. taxpayers.
 

fernandopartridge

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I mean, there are more clued up people than me on here who may be able to point out the legitimacy of this contract. I just don't get it though. How is this not front page news?
Would need to see the full OJEU notice but I've already told that Jolyom not to assume it was a competition, where it's a contract awarded without competition it'll say there has been only one tender. Needs to look at Section VI of the form.
 

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