Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (10 Viewers)

Ian1779

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155 deaths today, 690 new infections.
So deaths are relatively stagnant but infections are going down a bit... do you think this is because a drop in testing? Or conversely more people are dying in proportion to positive tests (and I know there is a time lag to factor in terms of positive test to death) - I wonder why?
 

shmmeee

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So deaths are relatively stagnant but infections are going down a bit... do you think this is because a drop in testing? Or conversely more people are dying in proportion to positive tests (and I know there is a time lag to factor in terms of positive test to death) - I wonder why?

All things being equal you’d expect mortality to drop as time goes on and we learn to deal with the symptoms better. I can only assume it’s a change in testing. This is generally why I always go for deaths over cases.
 

chiefdave

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Oh I agree, I was just commenting on the national data.
It seems a very odd thing to refuse to hand over. Going by the fact the Leicester mayor has said they have been trying to get hold of the data for weeks it seems unlikely its just an oversight and more that it has been withheld but what possible benefit can there be in doing that?
 

chiefdave

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All things being equal you’d expect mortality to drop as time goes on and we learn to deal with the symptoms better. I can only assume it’s a change in testing. This is generally why I always go for deaths over cases.
Definitely right to go with deaths. The testing data seems to be all over the place and when they won't release the number of people actually tested its virtually impossible to draw any reliable conclusions from the data they do publish.

Do they publish the number of people admitted to ICU and / or hospital? That might be a useful indicator, assuming the underlying data is solid so you can split out covid-19 cases from everything else.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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We're still waiting for our new hospital in Liverpool......its only 3.5 years overdue, with the remedial works currently being undertaken to rectify the clusterfuck left by Carillion expected to cost nearly as much as the original budget.....

...Our governments have always been shit at infrastructure budgets & forecasts, but this current bunch of shysters are on a different level of incompetence.

But all their mates are making a packet, so in their own eyes there doing a great job.
 

shmmeee

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Is this a new study? Researchers and clinicians in London discovered this weeks ago.

The linked article is dated 19th June so maybe not, I hadn’t heard of studies showing antibodies decreased. I think I got it at the start of lockdown which means my immunity is probably gone soon, just as lockdown ends. Concerning.
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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The linked article is dated 19th June so maybe not, I hadn’t heard of studies showing antibodies decreased. I think I got it at the start of lockdown which means my immunity is probably gone soon, just as lockdown ends. Concerning.

Yeah it definitely is concerning. It's interesting as scientists/researchers/clinicians have hypothesising for months whether antibodies may not be long lasting or be the answer to squashing the virus. This was one of the reasons why the WHO were up in arms about the prospect of the UK pursuing the herd immunity tactic, as not only would it likely cause hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths but there was no evidence at the time to suggest that it would successfully muscle out the virus whatsoever.

Whilst the UK hasn't appropriately managed this crisis at all well, the latest findings show how devastating the situation could have gotten if our government's initial approach was left unchecked.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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Yeah it definitely is concerning. It's interesting as scientists/researchers/clinicians have hypothesising for months whether antibodies may not be long lasting or be the answer to squashing the virus. This was one of the reasons why the WHO were up in arms about the prospect of the UK pursuing the herd immunity tactic, as not only would it likely cause hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths but there was no evidence at the time to suggest that it would successfully muscle out the virus whatsoever.

Whilst the UK hasn't appropriately managed this crisis at all well, the latest findings show how devastating the situation could have gotten if our government's initial approach was left unchecked.
Oh goody praise Johnson and his cronies for saving us all
 

SkyBlueCRJ

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What a fuck up

still, so long as Dom can go on a bender, Boris ladddd!


This is the issue and why I think the re-opening of the pubs should've been postponed for another month. If the police can't enforce guidance, how does the government expect pub staff to ensure social distancing is adhered to after a few pints have been knocked back.
 

Johnnythespider

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This is the issue and why I think the re-opening of the pubs should've been postponed for another month. If the police can't enforce guidance, how does the government expect pub staff to ensure social distancing is adhered to after a few pints have been knocked back.
Not sure I'd want to be working in that environment, is it table srevice only or will there be screens up around the bar
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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This is the issue and why I think the re-opening of the pubs should've been postponed for another month. If the police can't enforce guidance, how does the government expect pub staff to ensure social distancing is adhered to after a few pints have been knocked back.

I guess they would say that as people are ordering through an app, staff can easily decline to serve people after a certain point. We’re giving it a try next week.
 

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