Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (5 Viewers)

David O'Day said:

There were 2 large stereophonics concerts in cardiff on the 14th and 15th

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Yeah, them, Cheltenham and the Liverpool/Athletico game really shouldn't have gone ahead.

Ring Of Steel said:

Well, Cummings is going to survive, that whole storm is over. He's going nowhere.

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Yes he is. He’s off to Bamburgh Castle at the weekend

PVA said:

The government is actually probably quite glad of the Cummings furore at the moment, with the FT's findings this morning that we have the worst death rate in the world.

The focus is still on Cummings and is a nice distraction for the government's grave errors that have killed thousands of people.

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It was horribly & painfully obvious from the start that we were going to end up with horrendous levels of casualties after seeing the botched approach to literally everything

Grendel said:

Sorry try this link

MP joins 'up to 100 mourners' defying city's six-person limit for funerals

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I'm not sure of you're point . He shouldn't have done that. I'm not going to defend him
Plenty of people couldn't attend family funerals so he shouldn't of.
That doesn't mean Cummings shouldn't be sacked.

Ring Of Steel said:

Where does that end though, you'd be hard pushed to find a conservative who hasn't lied to the public

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Normally comments like that are a bit of hyperbole to try and make a point but in this case it's literally true.

The 'but Kinnock!' type responses are pathetic.

Nobody is defending him or saying what he did is right.

What he did does not excuse Cummings

clint van damme said:

Normally comments like that are a bit of hyperbole to try and make a point but in this case it's literally true.

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It clearly isn’t

clint van damme said:

I'm not sure of you're point . He shouldn't have done that. I'm not going to defend him
Plenty of people couldn't attend family funerals so he shouldn't of.
That doesn't mean Cummings shouldn't be sacked.

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No one has ever defended Stephen Kinnock but he didn't travel somewhere while potentially infected with covid-19.

This is a weird argument from him. It's the kind of logic usually found in folk to drunk for club release.

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Grendel said:

Perhaps wales is down to Mr Kinnock

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More likely down to a concert that was allowed to go ahead in Cardiff as the rest of Europe was locking down.

Grendel said:

It clearly isn’t

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Hancock has (several times)
Gove has
Jenrick has
Johnson has (several times)
Shapes has
Patel has

clint van damme said:

Hancock has (several times)
Gove has
Jenrick has
Johnson has (several times)
Shapes has
Patel has

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Unfortunately you're arguing with a man who claims Boris did not say that he shook hands in hospital, despite being presented with the evidence.

PVA said:

Unfortunately you're arguing with a man who claims Boris did not say that he shook hands in hospital, despite being presented with the evidence.

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Yep grenners is a strange fruit

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clint van damme said:

Hancock has (several times)
Gove has
Jenrick has
Johnson has (several times)
Shapes has
Patel has

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1 that’s not every conservative
2 they are not all lies

David O'Day said:

Yep grenners is a strange fruit

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He blocked me/put me on ignore yesterday after basically calling me a racist because I am pro freedom of movement.

PVA said:

He blocked me/put me on ignore yesterday after basically calling me a racist because I am pro freedom of movement.

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A blessing if you ask me

I see Matt Hancock has found dealing with Coronavirus amusing this morning. Cretin.

Grendel said:

1 that’s not every conservative
2 they are not all lies

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That was posted off the top of my head in seconds. Imagine what a bit of research would throw up?
And 2 of the above list have sacking on their CV. Including 2 for the part timer.
I'm really surprised you're defending them. As a Brexit supporter I cannot belive you'd be happy to let this lot guide us through the process. They simply aren't up to government.

skybluetony176 said:

If you were being cynical you would suggest that the reason that the number of tests done hasn’t been reported due to “technical issues” in the last few days was because the R rate is in fact rising when number of tests done to number of positives tests are compared. If you were being cynical that is.

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Turns out now we've all got it wrong anyway. Seems that when Johnson made commitments to test a certain number of people every day he did't actually mean the number of people who would be tested, or even the number of tests that would be carried out. He actually meant testing capacity.

How lucky that as we rapidly approach the date by which we were promised 200,000 people a day would be tested, and having not reached even 100,000 a day for weeks, we now find we should actually be looking at figures the Department of Health has never made public.

clint van damme said:

That was posted off the top of my head in seconds. Imagine what a bit of research would throw up?
And 2 of the above list have sacking on their CV. Including 2 for the part timer.
I'm really surprised you're defending them. As a Brexit supporter I cannot belive you'd be happy to let this lot guide us through the process. They simply aren't up to government.

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He has no choice but to defend them. Anyone who voted Tory, for whatever reason, can't now admit that Johnson is doing an appalling job as it makes them look stupid and makes us look right after we spent months warning them that Johnson is an incompetent fool.

clint van damme said:

That was posted off the top of my head in seconds. Imagine what a bit of research would throw up?
And 2 of the above list have sacking on their CV. Including 2 for the part timer.
I'm really surprised you're defending them. As a Brexit supporter I cannot belive you'd be happy to let this lot guide us through the process. They simply aren't up to government.

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Just ignore the wind up merchant

skybluetony176 said:

I see Matt Hancock has found dealing with Coronavirus amusing this morning. Cretin.

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Always a good look to laugh when you're the health secretary whose overseen a crisis leading to 63,800 excess deaths.

He also talked about being ahead on track and trace when we are one of the few countries not to have a working app. He claimed track and trace being launched 4 days early is not to distract from Cummings yet some of those employed to do the tracing say they didn't get any details until 10:30pm last night. Not to mention when they've tried to log on this morning to do the work the website has crashed.

Grendel said:

Yes he is. He’s off to Bamburgh Castle at the weekend

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Hearing test?

skybluetony176 said:

I see Matt Hancock has found dealing with Coronavirus amusing this morning. Cretin.

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Hancock laaaddd!!

pipkin73 said:

The 2 hour contracts are popular here also, owners basically say accept it or someone else will.
Seems our season is longer than yours then (i do double the amount of work in Scandie season as i have to advertise Scandie football and the Handball plus all the Scandie shows).

Main problem this year is i can't see the Swedish being allowed over and the Norwegian Krone has collapsed so not sure how much money they will have to spend leaving us mainly Danish (who are the main ones in PR) so i think the Danes hold our winter season in their hands.

Might get more French and German tourists though if the Brits don't come, as most hotels won't allow them in as they don't want any trouble with them mixing with British so they go Mogán and Playa del Ingles more.

Let's hope we all have a safe and busy summer though and get through this.

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We now are down to 0 active cases. However we are now being inundated with boats coming from Africa. My son (ambulance driver) had to deal with one coming in on Tuesday. There was 50+ on board the boat, it required 2 coaches to take them to an army base, the only secure compound on our island, we don't have a jail here, just a few police cells in the capital. If we have a change in case numbers it will be because of these boats.

The police at the moment are being tipped off, so the coast guard can go and intercept them and bring them in safely, quarantined and make sure they get tested. The worrying thing is those that dont get caught, come straight onto the island, start mixing with everyone else. We also know they are heading to more popular islands of Gran Canaria and Tenerife rather than here.

Since we are now in phase 2 it says we can travel any where in our province, which includes Gran Canaria and Lanzarote. We were also reading Binter was to increase the number of flights, but Binters web site says 'travel between the islands for essential travel only' which require permits as well as your empad. My wife was looking in to it, going to for our yearly shopping trip to Las Palmas before we get back into (hopefully) normal working routines.

That's an interesting choice by Nissan this morning

Bit counter intuitive re complications around cross border processes .
Thoughts?

wingy said:

That's an interesting choice by Nissan this morning

Bit counter intuitive re complications around cross border processes .
Thoughts?

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Good news potentially. As much as I hate the Mackems I don't want to see them lose their jobs.
If for no other reason than it stops them potentially moving here.

PVA said:

Hancock laaaddd!!

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Many of her viewers voted for it

Rachael Venables (@rachaelvenables) Tweeted: A contract tracer who was meant to be starting his shift at 8am tells me it's been a 'complete shambles' so far. He was only emailed at 10.30 last night to be told the system was going live anyway, he still hasn't received his password to logon and the website has crashed. @LBC

Hancock definitely hasn't been sent to do the media rounds 'launching' a track and trace system that isn't ready that staff weren't told out until last night and can't logon to as a distraction from Cummings.

Grendel said:

Britain have always made grandiose claims about an ability to control of influence people - Well before social media - they are a faded power and its the only way they can pretend they have influence

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Brighton Sky Blue said:

Just ignore the wind up merchant

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Yes stick your fingers in your ears and only listen to everyone who ageees with you

Classic labour strategy

Grendel said:

Yes stick your fingers in your ears and only listen to everyone who ageees with you

Classic labour strategy

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The irony of this ffs

Like you stick your fingers in your ears and completely ignore the death toll?

As for the Cummings saga has any considered that this might just be a deliberately engineered strategy?

Grendel said:

As for the Cummings saga has any considered that this might just be a deliberately engineered strategy?

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Yes. FP has repeatedly said it's to induce the public in to ignoring lock down to implement herd immunity through the back door.

Grendel said:

As for the Cummings saga has any considered that this might just be a deliberately engineered strategy?

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Yes, I said it immediately