Things that freak you out (2 Viewers)

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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On BBC 4 now there's a blind bloke who is a climber. Mega respect to him as I've done a bit of rock climbing in the past myself along with hill walking, and it can be scary even with good eye sight.
He's going to climb The Old Man Of Hoy in Scotland and I bet he will do it.

Need balls for that but at the same time you can't get scared or disorientated looking down.
 

Mr Panda

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Any condition of the skin whether it's real or fake. E.g.

- that extremely rare condition which makes people look like trees. The images of that make me feel physically sick.

- when people use photoshop to add small holes to people's hands and feet. I find it repulsive. Called 'Trypophobia' to be fearful of holes, I never knew I had that until recently.

- Jorah Mormont turning into a stone man on Game of Thrones, had to turn away for most of his scenes.
 

ccfc92

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Wife and I are discussing something and then there’s a advert in Facebook for the stuff - we have no Alexa or that bollox

and Snakes ! Can’t even watch in the telly

Your phone listens to your conversation and puts up adverts accordingly.
 

ovduk78

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Anything on the tv showing surgery of any kind, just can't understand why anyone would want to watch it. When our son was born it was by c-section so I just sat outside waiting, I would have been no use to anyone after I'd fainted.
 

hill83

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Injections for me. Had to have loads when I had meningitis when I was 4 so that must be something to do with it.
Mate on facebook posted a photo of himself giving blood to encourage people but it did the opposite for me. Basically had a garden hose in his arm.

My wife had a c-section too and we were both behind a curtain. Anything like that I cant handle.
 

ovduk78

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Injections for me. Had to have loads when I had meningitis when I was 4 so that must be something to do with it.
Mate on facebook posted a photo of himself giving blood to encourage people but it did the opposite for me. Basically had a garden hose in his arm.

My wife had a c-section too and we were both behind a curtain. Anything like that I cant handle.
My wife had to inject herself for a couple of months & was struggling so I offered to try, I couldn't even pick the needle up. I don't like needles at the doctor's although have got better in last few months as I've had a few yet have no problem at the dentist and my wife is the opposite. She loves watching operations on tv, I just leave the room.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Not quite a freak out but I can’t stand eating noises, especially when people eat something too hot and drag it out. I know most don’t mind it but someone slurping or gulping is like nails on a chalkboard to me!
 

hill83

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Not quite a freak out but I can’t stand eating noises, especially when people eat something too hot and drag it out. I know most don’t mind it but someone slurping or gulping is like nails on a chalkboard to me!

There is actual videos on youtube of people eating with microphones in their ears so more of the chewing etc can be heard and they get MILLIONS of views.
You'd love it.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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There is actual videos on youtube of people eating with microphones in their ears so more of the chewing etc can be heard and they get MILLIONS of views.
You'd love it.

I had the misfortune of seeing some dude do that with pizza and he deliberately tried eating it in the most disgusting way possible. It’s more annoying to me than any other sound!
 

Marty

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Any condition of the skin whether it's real or fake. E.g.

- that extremely rare condition which makes people look like trees. The images of that make me feel physically sick.

- when people use photoshop to add small holes to people's hands and feet. I find it repulsive. Called 'Trypophobia' to be fearful of holes, I never knew I had that until recently.

- Jorah Mormont turning into a stone man on Game of Thrones, had to turn away for most of his scenes.

I know its bad, but seeing someone with eczema makes me feel the same, won't touch anything they do either and don't like being touched by them.
 

TomRad85

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Any condition of the skin whether it's real or fake. E.g.

- that extremely rare condition which makes people look like trees. The images of that make me feel physically sick.

- when people use photoshop to add small holes to people's hands and feet. I find it repulsive. Called 'Trypophobia' to be fearful of holes, I never knew I had that until recently.

- Jorah Mormont turning into a stone man on Game of Thrones, had to turn away for most of his scenes.
I think its lotus pods people use to photoshop the images of which you speak. Was about to post one for bants but probably a bit out of order.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 

shmmeee

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Your phone listens to your conversation and puts up adverts accordingly.

No it doesn’t. There’s been studies that disprove this and for it to work you’d have to: approve FB to access your microphone then have FB open in the foreground of your phone while you were having the conversation. Then FB would need a TTS algorithm significantly better than state of the art to pull any useful data from it, and be willing to risk the biggest data protection fines in all jurisdictions just to make ads slightly better for their customers when they already have the most effective ad targeting algos and datasets in the business

It’s about as likely that they’re reading your thoughts with 5G ray guns.

It’s a testament to people’s egos that they think this is happening rather than accept that they are quite predictable based on their demographics and stated interests or other data they willingly put into FB.
 

wingy

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No it doesn’t. There’s been studies that disprove this and for it to work you’d have to: approve FB to access your microphone then have FB open in the foreground of your phone while you were having the conversation. Then FB would need a TTS algorithm significantly better than state of the art to pull any useful data from it, and be willing to risk the biggest data protection fines in all jurisdictions just to make ads slightly better for their customers when they already have the most effective ad targeting algos and datasets in the business

It’s about as likely that they’re reading your thoughts with 5G ray guns.

It’s a testament to people’s egos that they think this is happening rather than accept that they are quite predictable based on their demographics and stated interests or other data they willingly put into FB.
Can't agree on this I'm afraid .
Many experiences of holding workplace conversations then recieving emails pushing tools/equipment related to conversation .
Even down to brand
Same with do social/ leisure activities .
Don't know the route in but tailored ,not random.
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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Have a good friend of the family who is one of the foremost brains on military GPS and listening equipment. He said to me not so long ago "the thing i find most amazing about people thinking they're being monitored is that they think they aren't!"
 

shmmeee

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Can't agree on this I'm afraid .
Many experiences of holding workplace conversations then recieving emails pushing tools/equipment related to conversation .
Even down to brand
Same with do social/ leisure activities .
Don't know the route in but tailored ,not random.

Of course it’s tailored. What I’m saying is that modern machine learning algorithms have superhuman ability to see statistical connections between features of a dataset.

Log into your Google account and go here: Account settings: Your browser is not supported. to see what Google has figured out about you. Chances are there’ll be some weird stuff there, or the categories are quite vague, but generally they’re pretty good with their guesses. They can take samples of search patterns and terms, where and how you log in, how often, etc etc and compare them to millions of other users and spot things like “People who google Coventry City in Coventry are probably Coventry City fans.” From this they can discover personas that share traits, could be “football fan” could be “late night compulsive Wikipedia user” could be “Male aged 65+” they can then run ads and randomise headlines, images, times, locations and devices until they find the best combinations that make you click.

Now take all that a Google can do, which is standard Degree level machine learning, and apply it to what Facebook *knows* about you, not guesses. It knows your exact age, sex, birthplace, school, who your friends are, where you go, what TV shows you like. It’s on another level. Facebook and Google are two of the world leaders in machine learning, their algorithms will be light years ahead of the simple examples I’ve given.

The reason you think Facebook is listening is two fold:

1) when you have a conversation about something you experience Frequency Bias where for a period afterwards you will notice related things in the world. Like when you buy a car and suddenly everyone’s driving them. You will have seen relevant ads previously, and ignored them because they weren’t relevant. Your brain filters out an awful lot of noise without you noticing

2) There will be signals in your life that hint you’re going to be looking for something soon. Stupid example let’s say you google pregnancy test, 9 months later you’ll probably be looking for a baby monitor. Or maybe it’s 8 months, or 10, the data will show. And it’ll show specifically for people like you. Maybe CCFC fans are overly cautious and buy early? Maybe people who like Star Trek buy a particular brand of baby formula. The algorithms will find that connection.

So what seems completely organic to you is just a mix of forgetting all the conversations you’ve had where Facebook didn’t advertise and irrelevant ads, forgetting the leading data you’ve fed the system to make the prediction, and thinking you’re more special than you are, when really you’re just like every other balding baking obsessed CCFC following midget donkey porn fan.
 

wingy

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Of course it’s tailored. What I’m saying is that modern machine learning algorithms have superhuman ability to see statistical connections between features of a dataset.

Log into your Google account and go here: Account settings: Your browser is not supported. to see what Google has figured out about you. Chances are there’ll be some weird stuff there, or the categories are quite vague, but generally they’re pretty good with their guesses. They can take samples of search patterns and terms, where and how you log in, how often, etc etc and compare them to millions of other users and spot things like “People who google Coventry City in Coventry are probably Coventry City fans.” From this they can discover personas that share traits, could be “football fan” could be “late night compulsive Wikipedia user” could be “Male aged 65+” they can then run ads and randomise headlines, images, times, locations and devices until they find the best combinations that make you click.

Now take all that a Google can do, which is standard Degree level machine learning, and apply it to what Facebook *knows* about you, not guesses. It knows your exact age, sex, birthplace, school, who your friends are, where you go, what TV shows you like. It’s on another level. Facebook and Google are two of the world leaders in machine learning, their algorithms will be light years ahead of the simple examples I’ve given.

The reason you think Facebook is listening is two fold:

1) when you have a conversation about something you experience Frequency Bias where for a period afterwards you will notice related things in the world. Like when you buy a car and suddenly everyone’s driving them. You will have seen relevant ads previously, and ignored them because they weren’t relevant. Your brain filters out an awful lot of noise without you noticing

2) There will be signals in your life that hint you’re going to be looking for something soon. Stupid example let’s say you google pregnancy test, 9 months later you’ll probably be looking for a baby monitor. Or maybe it’s 8 months, or 10, the data will show. And it’ll show specifically for people like you. Maybe CCFC fans are overly cautious and buy early? Maybe people who like Star Trek buy a particular brand of baby formula. The algorithms will find that connection.

So what seems completely organic to you is just a mix of forgetting all the conversations you’ve had where Facebook didn’t advertise and irrelevant ads, forgetting the leading data you’ve fed the system to make the prediction, and thinking you’re more special than you are, when really you’re just like every other balding baking obsessed CCFC following midget donkey porn fan.
Hehehe .
I don't use FB Lol .
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
Anything on the tv showing surgery of any kind, just can't understand why anyone would want to watch it. When our son was born it was by c-section so I just sat outside waiting, I would have been no use to anyone after I'd fainted.
I worked at the Co-op Funeral Service way back in the late 70's. I saw loads of bodies waiting for a post mortem and watched Eric, the mortuary attendant at Walsgrave, prepare them in readiness. The scalp was drawn back before an electric surgical saw took the top of the skull off to reveal the brain. Then the chest was cut open to reveal internal organs. After the pm pathologist was done, Eric would just place all bits into a black bin liner, place it inside the now empty chest cavity and sew up using maybe a dozen large stitches. I asked him once why he just plonked the innards in a black bag and he said, "Well, they ain't no good to them now, are they?" Made sense I suppose!
 

Liquid Gold

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No it doesn’t. There’s been studies that disprove this and for it to work you’d have to: approve FB to access your microphone then have FB open in the foreground of your phone while you were having the conversation. Then FB would need a TTS algorithm significantly better than state of the art to pull any useful data from it, and be willing to risk the biggest data protection fines in all jurisdictions just to make ads slightly better for their customers when they already have the most effective ad targeting algos and datasets in the business

It’s about as likely that they’re reading your thoughts with 5G ray guns.

It’s a testament to people’s egos that they think this is happening rather than accept that they are quite predictable based on their demographics and stated interests or other data they willingly put into FB.
I was having a discussion about this with a mate and we decided to test it out. Left our phones in the lounge and went to another room asked my other half to say a random word, she said pens. We went back into the lounge and talked about pens a lot, added pens into our conversation at random points, just dropped the word pens. Adverts for pens in 10 minutes, biro advent calendars, all pen related crap. I know that algorithms are so complex they can supposedly predict our desires before we have them but I have a messy drawer full of pens and if I needed more I'd just steal some from work. How else did they target that advert?
 

Nick

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I've had it before where I was talking about a particular rum. Never searched it or anything.

Ads on a news app showing adverts for it
 

shmmeee

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I've had it before where I was talking about a particular rum. Never searched it or anything.

Ads on a news app showing adverts for it

Because your it’s target market! You will have had ads for that rum before and not noticed because you didn’t have the conversation beforehand.

iOS and Android control access to the Mike. You’d have needed Facebook open while you had the convo and there’d be a massive data stream going out to a STT server that any half decent Infosec researcher would spot a mile off.

As a sometimes ML engineer it pisses me off that Data Scientists have got so good at their job that people invent conspiracy theories rather than go “wow, those are some smart guys” TBH.

This reminds me of when I lost an entire IT lesson trying (and failing) to convince a bunch of Year 8s that no, you can’t see the pedo watching you in Talking Tom Cats eyes.
 
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ovduk78

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I worked at the Co-op Funeral Service way back in the late 70's. I saw loads of bodies waiting for a post mortem and watched Eric, the mortuary attendant at Walsgrave, prepare them in readiness. The scalp was drawn back before an electric surgical saw took the top of the skull off to reveal the brain. Then the chest was cut open to reveal internal organs. After the pm pathologist was done, Eric would just place all bits into a black bin liner, place it inside the now empty chest cavity and sew up using maybe a dozen large stitches. I asked him once why he just plonked the innards in a black bag and he said, "Well, they ain't no good to them now, are they?" Made sense I suppose!
I even have trouble reading that. I was talking to a guy in a pub and he was telling me how as a child he'd fallen through a window and had badly cut his head and as he was graphically describing it I had to go outside for some air otherwise I'd have fainted.
 

Liquid Gold

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Mine is cats. They really freak me out. Don’t like being in the same room as them or anywhere near them. Just domestic house cats.
 

bringbackrattles

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I worked at the Co-op Funeral Service way back in the late 70's. I saw loads of bodies waiting for a post mortem and watched Eric, the mortuary attendant at Walsgrave, prepare them in readiness. The scalp was drawn back before an electric surgical saw took the top of the skull off to reveal the brain. Then the chest was cut open to reveal internal organs. After the pm pathologist was done, Eric would just place all bits into a black bin liner, place it inside the now empty chest cavity and sew up using maybe a dozen large stitches. I asked him once why he just plonked the innards in a black bag and he said, "Well, they ain't no good to them now, are they?" Made sense I suppose!
When I worked on the railway one of my fellow workers had a brother who worked in a morgue. As we sat to eat our sarnies at lunch break, he loved to tell us stories of his brothers job cutting up bodies etc. He could never understand why 10 of his workmates would walk away and eat far from him !
 

Marty

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I've had it before where I was talking about a particular rum. Never searched it or anything.

Ads on a news app showing adverts for it

It happened to me last night actually, been chatting to some old school friends that lost contact with and we were talking about football ( we all played for the same sunday team) and we thought about getting a 6 a side team together. Now I have a constant stream of adverts for powerleague.

Not sure if they're spying somehow or someone simply googled it and they saw I was in recent contact so sent me the same ads.
 

vow

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Mine is cats. They really freak me out. Don’t like being in the same room as them or anywhere near them. Just domestic house cats.
I dislike cats too, but thats because I don't trust 'em, with their poker faces and sharp claws.
 

jimmyhillsfanclub

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As a sometimes ML engineer it pisses me off that Data Scientists have got so good at their job that people invent conspiracy theories rather than go “wow, those are some smart guys” TBH.

Heres one that spooked me a while back..... My Mrs. recently got ads for some electronic componentry that I occasionally buy & use for work.
My work laptop & her tablet share no accounts, access, emails etc. We don't have an alexa or similar.
I don't do any social media other than this place & a few whatsapp groups & hers is fairly limited to whatsapp & an occasional poke around FB, so the only thing in common would be our home wifi connection, yet I'm 99.9% sure I've never done an order for this stuff from home....So how come my Mrs. got ads for the same type of resistors I've previously ordered?
 

fernandopartridge

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Heres one that spooked me a while back..... My Mrs. recently got ads for some electronic componentry that I occasionally buy & use for work.
My work laptop & her tablet share no accounts, access, emails etc. We don't have an alexa or similar.
I don't do any social media other than this place & a few whatsapp groups & hers is fairly limited to whatsapp & an occasional poke around FB, so the only thing in common would be our home wifi connection, yet I'm 99.9% sure I've never done an order for this stuff from home....So how come my Mrs. got ads for the same type of resistors I've previously ordered?

IP address?
 

Nick

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Because your it’s target market! You will have had ads for that rum before and not noticed because you didn’t have the conversation beforehand.

iOS and Android control access to the Mike. You’d have needed Facebook open while you had the convo and there’d be a massive data stream going out to a STT server that any half decent Infosec researcher would spot a mile off.

As a sometimes ML engineer it pisses me off that Data Scientists have got so good at their job that people invent conspiracy theories rather than go “wow, those are some smart guys” TBH.

This reminds me of when I lost an entire IT lesson trying (and failing) to convince a bunch of Year 8s that no, you can’t see the pedo watching you in Talking Tom Cats eyes.
I don't use Facebook at all, maybe it was the Alexas listening.

It would be very smart to know that we were thinking of getting some rum, hadn't searched for it online before and were talking about it about an hour earlier.
 

Nick

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Heres one that spooked me a while back..... My Mrs. recently got ads for some electronic componentry that I occasionally buy & use for work.
My work laptop & her tablet share no accounts, access, emails etc. We don't have an alexa or similar.
I don't do any social media other than this place & a few whatsapp groups & hers is fairly limited to whatsapp & an occasional poke around FB, so the only thing in common would be our home wifi connection, yet I'm 99.9% sure I've never done an order for this stuff from home....So how come my Mrs. got ads for the same type of resistors I've previously ordered?

what are you making, more importantly?
 

ICHAN

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I was having a discussion about this with a mate and we decided to test it out. Left our phones in the lounge and went to another room asked my other half to say a random word, she said pens. We went back into the lounge and talked about pens a lot, added pens into our conversation at random points, just dropped the word pens. Adverts for pens in 10 minutes, biro advent calendars, all pen related crap. I know that algorithms are so complex they can supposedly predict our desires before we have them but I have a messy drawer full of pens and if I needed more I'd just steal some from work. How else did they target that advert?
Me and a couple of lads at work one day on break tried this out, but we talked about lawn mowers, then we opened our phones on the Internet and we all had ads for lawn mowers on pop ups.
 

LastGarrison

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Heres one that spooked me a while back..... My Mrs. recently got ads for some electronic componentry that I occasionally buy & use for work.
My work laptop & her tablet share no accounts, access, emails etc. We don't have an alexa or similar.
I don't do any social media other than this place & a few whatsapp groups & hers is fairly limited to whatsapp & an occasional poke around FB, so the only thing in common would be our home wifi connection, yet I'm 99.9% sure I've never done an order for this stuff from home....So how come my Mrs. got ads for the same type of resistors I've previously ordered?
Must be linked to your WiFi as we had exactly the same thing.

My Missus had searched for something on her iPad (might have been smart projectors) as I'd be talking to someone about them in the day and then the day after I turned on my work laptop and it was showing ads for smart projectors.

Never knew about smart projectors until the day before and then bang.

However, I do agree with what Shmmeee (I think) said about they could have been there before but you never noticed until you start thinking about them and that has definitely happened to me and particularly when I was looking to buy a car. Couldn't stop seeing them everywhere!!
 
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wingy

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Injections for me. Had to have loads when I had meningitis when I was 4 so that must be something to do with it.
Mate on facebook posted a photo of himself giving blood to encourage people but it did the opposite for me. Basically had a garden hose in his arm.

My wife had a c-section too and we were both behind a curtain. Anything like that I cant handle.
It was the opposite for me

Ended up with a fetish for Nurses uniforms
Got to be, white though .
Powder or Navy Blue won't cut it .
 
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