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Marty

Marty

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skybluetony176 said:
So what exactly would qualify Sadiq Khan to ignore expert advice on the subject of a pandemic? As far as I’m aware he was a lawyer not a scientist specialising in the field of pandemics.
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What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Marty said:
What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.
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So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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jimmyhillsfanclub said:
To be fair....the figures appear to be poorly compiled & only provide a very very rough snapshot...and even that snapshot is polluted with a varying degree of lag....
...and of course it doesn't take into account all the deaths in care homes & the massive increase in "unexplained deaths" at home that are currently being dealt with in the main by the police & coroners office...
My wifes cousin is a copper and his shifts are currently filled with domestic violence cases & helping shift body bags.....it would seem an awful lot more people are dying of this than the official figures suggest
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I know, the point I am making is that Dom's mental health seems to be entirely driven by the individual set of daily figures that appear each day
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Marty said:
He would have, completely, I agree, Which is why you need a strong politician with broad shoulders to take the shit he would have got, at least he could have turned round and said, these maybe extreme measure but I'm doing them for your benefit.

Even just little measures like contentiously cleaning hand rails, providing staff with hand sanitizer or gloves, cleaning staff areas between shifts would have reduced numbers.

Our politicians failed to act, every last one of them, simple as act. I've been critical and vocal about it.
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I agree about PPE.
He should be doing more to help TFL staff rather than just hiding behind the government say it's for NHS workers which he appears to be doing.

It's a big leap from that to what you're suggesting.
 
Marty

Marty

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David O'Day said:
So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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This is why you need a strong person with broad shoulders to make those tough calls.
 
Otis

Otis

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David O'Day said:
So you would of ignored the advise of the government and phe at a time when there were 34 cases in london?

Would you fuck

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It would have been total madness to do so. Everyone would have come down on him like a tonne of bricks. All sides, every angle.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Marty said:
It was a genuine criticism, it's poor decision making from those in power. Why are you so defensive over a Muslim politician? are they beyond judgement?
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Mate you are just making a fool of yourself now.

Man takes advice of national government shocker.

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David O'Day

David O'Day

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Marty said:
What qualifies me? I have no qualifications but I have a brain, I know if you have highly infectious people, it's best to keep them away from the healthy ones. You don't need to spend 7 years doing a medical degree to have that 'brainwave'.
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having a brain is still up for debate
 
SeaSeeEffCee

SeaSeeEffCee

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It's not hard to see why some people might think you have certain biases when you start criticising people for following the advice and guidelines being passed down from those with expertise in the field and from the central government.
 
Marty

Marty

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Otis said:
It would have been total madness to do so. Everyone would have come down on him like a tun of bricks. All sides, every angle.
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Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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SeaSeeEffCee said:
It's not hard to see why some people might think you have certain biases when you start criticising people for following the advice and guidelines being passed down from those with expertise in the field and from the central government.
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it's absolute madness.

Sure have a go for TFL not doing enough for their workers (interestingly the union isn't asking for more PPE but fo rthe front doors of the bus to be locked and the seats aroun dthe driver t be blocked off) but to keep attacking him for following the medical advise of the time is odd. Really odd
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Marty said:
Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.
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not keeping up to date with singapore or hong kong?
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Marty said:
Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.
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Let’s see what happens when they remove lockdown though. We still don’t know if they’ll get a big second wave.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Marty said:
Total Madness would have been to do nothing, countries that made tough decision quickly like Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia have saw few cases, countries with dithering politicians have saw huge amounts of cases.
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But that's for the government to decide not a major.
I think it's becoming evident we should have locked down earlier.
To be honest, it's not a stick I'd personally use to beat the government too much with, it's a unique situation and the likes of Hong Kong and Singapore learned lessons from the SARs outbreak.
 
Marty

Marty

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David O'Day said:
not keeping up to date with singapore or hong kong?
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Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
 
fernandopartridge

fernandopartridge

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clint van damme said:
I agree about PPE.
He should be doing more to help TFL staff rather than just hiding behind the government say it's for NHS workers which he appears to be doing.

It's a big leap from that to what you're suggesting.
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TBF they are not TFL staff, they're employed by the range of franchised private bus operators in London. Without wanting to sound harsh. It really is down to their employers, if they want to take on public contracts they ought to take on the broad obligations associated with a public service, not just leech cash away like they do.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Marty said:
Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
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singapore who are now worried about a second surge of cases and hong kong which has had multiple waves of cases

Also the populations of those city sates is tiny compared to the uk
 
Marty

Marty

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David O'Day said:
singapore who are now worried about a second surge of cases and hong kong which has had multiple waves of cases

Also the populations of those city sates is tiny compared to the uk
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Ah yes, the tiny state that is Russia.
 
SeaSeeEffCee

SeaSeeEffCee

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
I disagree, just trying to point score once again as its Boris involved
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If you're so against point-scoring then why aren't you kicking off about Marty trying to point score on Labour by criticising Khan? Weird how you're in here every day talking about how bad our numbers are yet defend the government at every turn, who, in case you missed it, are the ones who are in charge of dealing with all this shite.

Marty said:
Hong Kong - 974 Cases 4 Deaths
Singapore - 1,623 cases 7 Deaths

They saw the virus weeks before we did. It's almost like having strong leadership with backbone actually works.
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Why are you solely focused on criticising the Mayor of London as opposed to the government who are actually in charge of national strategy for dealing with the virus then?
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Keep going , it was only the other post you were trying to take the piss out my mental health
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Yep, and I stand by it. For clarity, it is not an insult.

You need to look at the trends, one day means nothing and you seem to either go wild with happiness or completely fall to pieces depending on what one day says. Its not that simple and if you react wildly to every spike between now and the end of it then you'll end up having a nervous breakdown- thats what I am saying and if you want to find an insult in that then you go ahead, it is not meant that way. I have vape juice now, highly unlikely I'll be kicking off at people for a while :)
 
Ian1779

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Otis said:
I just had a thought.

I have just received my Boris letter urging us all to stay at home and follow the guidance.

Boris has sent this to every household.

Boris has the virus.

Has Boris just infected the whole nation with Coronavirus?
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When we got the letter the wife read it and the first thing she said was ‘has he not got Grammarly?’
 
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