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Johhny Blue

Johhny Blue

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Whats this 'Hydroxychloroquine' like in terms of being used to fight the disease? Seems USA are going big on it.... India have now lifted the ban on exporting it
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Trump has a stake in one of the production companies
 
Flying Fokker

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BackRoomRummermill said:
In 2009 Jimmy Saville was interviewed under caution by Surry and Sussex police - note 2009 . Subsequently the police referred 4 cases to the CPS alleging that Jimmy Saville has abused 3 girls under 16. The CPS after receiving the files from the police refused to prosecute saying insufficient evidence ,after Savilles death and despite multiple attempts of high level cover ups we know that he abused over 500 kids . The man in charge of the CPS of this high profile case and decided insufficient evidence was the one and only now leader of the Labour Party Sir kier Starmer
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Oh dear, that will come out at the next general election. And not very left of you
 
Johhny Blue

Johhny Blue

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PVA said:
You're just talking shit now. It's quite funny.

Apparently I'm an awful c**t for saying Boris should take it on the chin but you're fine to say Operation Last Gasp is funny, while thousands of people die, many because they can't get a ventilator.

What the hell is wrong with you?

You are not right in the head.
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In Grendel's defence (A first) That's not what he said
 
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CCFCSteve

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CCFCSteve said:
Spot on sick boy. I haven’t seen the actual ICU numbers but I believe we remain under the capacity limits which is essential. Hoping the numbers might be on the dataset slides

Dom - Unfortunately I’m not sure todays data is complete regarding the tests and therefore confirmed numbers (excludes Leeds and Manchester). Assuming they aren’t unusually high the number it is still positive though as it’s not showing a significant jump
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As per exchange with Sick boy/Dom, if anyone’s interested, checked the dataset supporting info and as at 6 April 5,872 critical care bed were in use across the UK (4,810 - England, 369 - Wales, 585 - Scotland and 108 - NI). Been creeping up from 5,000 since 31 March.

Ps ...and no, I don’t know if Johnson’s included in the figure !
 
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steve cooper

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shmmeee said:
You’re averaging a Sunday and a Monday tho, and if we’re right about Sunday’s being low that’ll drag the average down.

I wonder if week on week growth isn’t the best indicator but last Tuesdays were about half today’s IIRC.

As always let’s see where we are the rest of the week. If we fail to break 800 we’re doing well.
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I'm assuming that if a Sunday figure is low, then the Monday figure will to some extent be higher than it should be as there will be a spill over. But the media are saying we are doubling every 3 days, I just can't see that. Even taking today's figures being double last Tuesday's that is a much better scenario. Including today's (possibly outlying) figures, we have gone from 563 to 786 in 7 days
 
chiefdave

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David O'Day said:
Yeah it would be funny if the Tories did decide to bring up saville though
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They won't bring it up themselves directly but they will feed it out, whether its true or not doesn't matter, we saw that in the last election.

Its already happening, take a look on social media on any post mentioning Starmer. Just gets people bringing up Saville in response.

The level of political debate in this country is appalling and shows no sign of improving.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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chiefdave said:
They won't bring it up themselves directly but they will feed it out, whether its true or not doesn't matter, we saw that in the last election.

Its already happening, take a look on social media on any post mentioning Starmer. Just gets people bringing up Saville in response.

The level of political debate in this country is appalling and shows no sign of improving.
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No they won't as it would be detrimental to them as they seemingly allowed him to do what he did
 
skybluetony176

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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skybluetony176 said:
You’ve put your faith in a man who against all the advice of experts went and shook hands with people suffering from Coronavirus, that man you’ve put your faith in is now seriously ill in hospital. He’s an ignoramus who looks like Einstein compared to Rabb and you’re now putting your faith in someone who out Diane Abbott’s the PM who is the Tories Diane Abbott.
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Nothing wrong with shaking hands with someone who has COVID -19 as long as you don't pick your nose and suck your fingers before you wash your hands.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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David O'Day said:
No it won't as it utter bollocks
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Doesn't matter in this day and age. As long as you can get it repeated often enough and enough people believing it whether it's bollocks is irrelevant. Didn't matter at the last election or the referendum.

Only reason they would chose to ignore it is because of Saville's links to the Thatcher regime and mentioning him could bring that up.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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CCFCSteve said:
Im guessing it’s the former. He shouldn’t have said it, probably didn’t mean for it be taken literally and I’d imagine regretted it immediately after the briefing (as i bet he did when he mentioned seeing his mum on Mother’s Day - which was followed by a statement saying he wouldn’t be seeing her)

It’s live situation, reacting to questions, he’s hardly polished in those situations (like a Cameron or a Blair) and he said the wrong thing.
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Maybe. He does seem to think more like a comedian than a politician in that respect, looking for the quick remark and entertaining the crowd rather than if it's a sensible thing for someone in his position to say.
 
David O'Day

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Doesn't matter in this day and age. As long as you can get it repeated often enough and enough people believing it whether it's bollocks is irrelevant. Didn't matter at the last election or the referendum.

Only reason they would chose to ignore it is because of Saville's links to the Thatcher regime and mentioning him could bring that up.
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Yes that is exactly why it will not be brought up, you are not going bring up something that is easily disproved but can easily open up your own links to a child abuser
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:
Nothing wrong with shaking hands with someone one who has COVID -19 as long as you don't pick your nose and suck your fingers before you wash your hands.
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They recon that it will live on hair for hours and we all know Boris is always touching his hair. Even if he had washed his hands it’s very likely it was swiftly back on his hands. Not sure if he picks his nose and eats it though.
 
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CCFCSteve

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Maybe. He does seem to think more like a comedian than a politician in that respect, looking for the quick remark and entertaining the crowd rather than if it's a sensible thing for someone in his position to say.
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100%. Im not saying its right either, but I think that’s just him (and why he’s always got a fuck up or two in him but also appears to be able to engage with people and is likeable by all accounts)
 
shmmeee

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Just call me Captain Cheery bringing all the good news:



What’s interesting here is the data is basically time lagged by three or four days. Not undercounting so much as late counting. Means we’ll probably stay in lockdown slightly too long if anything.
 
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letsallsingtogether

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David O'Day said:
How they getting away with a non key construction job?
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Asked the same question at one building site I was told we are building a School extension, if we dont finish by September the kids will have no classrooms.
So is that a key construction job?
 
Grendel

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Hats off to Sturgeon she seemed very genuine and empathetic in her remarks regarding Johnson
 
Brylowes

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A good mate of mine who lives in Liverpool sadly lost his wife last Tuesday, she was only 49 but
Had been battling cancer for 3 years, she’d been well since Christmas but developed respiratory
Problems 2 weeks ago and went downhill very quickly, she wasn’t tested.
Then on Friday her Mother 74 was admitted to hospital with severe chest pains and shortness of
Breath, she apparently was sprightly and active ‘though she had been diagnosed last year with
COPD, she sadly passed last night, she also wasn’t tested.
Then as if that wasn’t enough her Father 72 was admitted to the same hospital this afternoon
‘again with chest Pains and fever and shortness of breath, apparently not looking good but not
been tested.
Bloody heartbreaking.
 
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