Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (9 Viewers)

hill83

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Which of course no one said and I’m still waiting on answers I may hacevtk start a separate thread on the points you are refusing to answer

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Ring Of Steel

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Anybody got today's scores on the doors so we can all discuss a line on a graph nobody knows anything about?

I'll be ready with the graphs but that will be a while yet, the fake numbers are being manipulated to fit the desired narrative to plot onto the incorrect scale as we speak.
 

wingy

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Canada numbers up by 12k
Don't know if they're testing heavily or collating numbers en bloc , but that's a significant number.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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We are lucky that we do have some world class universities here. I can't really explain how the alumni that we end up with as MPs don't show much of that.

Cos all the ones that are actually good at anything go on to something other than politics.
 

wingy

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It's been hard to make sense around China today .
The latest seems to suggest that it's a different area with 'several' cases going into restrictions.
I suppose that's what we.will be up against when we finally lift things here.

Edit:- they also still suggest that 10's of cases are being reported among returning nationals.
I wouldn't think there would be many of those left doing this.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Just read the following online from an article taken from the Guardian...

For much of the week, it’s been as if the government has gone out of its way to appear wilfully clueless. First, the psychotically unstable Dominic Raab, then the pathologically untrustworthy Michael Gove, culminating with the shambolically underprepared Alok Sharma.

Every time someone mentions the bias of the 'tory press' they need to remember there is bias the other way too!

Bizarrely the article went on to say 'Thank God for Matt Hancock'

When you're grateful that Hancock is the best available you know things are bad.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Well with today's figures lets hope Spain is on the other side now and hopefully Italy will have lower figures later

You do seem obsessed with the daily figures and extrapolating stuff from them. You really can't do so - things could fluctuate quite significantly day to day.. Best thing to do is check them weekly and look for a trend in that data.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Well thats fair enough, however what I can and am telling you is that HMRC will be using "every tool in their arsenal" to audit and check somewhere down the line. And those boys have some pretty serious tools in their box, speaking from bitter experience they use GCHQ to get hold of any emails they like and you'd never know it was happening (that was a much more serious issue than furlough tbf, but you don't fuck with HMRC!)

If I were you I'd have added an extra bit on the end of "unless you're a multi-billion dollar individual/corporation able to 'sweet-talk' your way out of it"
 

shmmeee

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Clearly when you have a dataset as big as this you can use trends to very good effect. Individual differences would only render comparison meaningless if the sample size was much smaller.

There’s undoubtedly a lot of noise, that’s why rolling averages are used in most of the graphs.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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What else have they done wrong? We locked down..... No Government could have predicted this happening

They have been warned that a pandemic was one of the most likely 'worst case scenarios' to occur and that the health service was woefully under-funded and under-prepared in terms of equipment for that scenario. They chose to ignore it and implemented austerity cuts resulting in real-term funding cuts.

So yes, they could have predicted this because they were warned.

Not that I'm saying any other party would've done much, if any, better
 

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