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Skyblueweeman

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We're close to doing similar pending moving into the new house, with a six week old and a two year old I'm not taking chances I don't need to.
Cant remember if I've said congrats on your newborn so congrats if not. Hope mum and baby are well.

Good luck with the move. What a time to do that!!

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Skyblueweeman

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Wish we could do the same.

I am being really, really careful, but my wife works part time at a very busy store and worse still, they have just started putting her on the tills because they are short of staff.

She is therefore having lots of close social contact and cash is constantly filtering through her hands too.
Sorry to hear that Otis. I know it's no comfort but try and take some solace that Mrs Otis is most definitely doing her bit to keep this country running and ensuring that we come out of this the other side as soon as we can. A big sacrifice that isn't going unnoticed.

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Magwitch

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I have got used to getting battered from both sides.

Labour voter all my life. But I see the faults. Have never voted Tories but can see why others would.

New Labour were Tories in red. They shafted our pensions. The Tories shaft us all the time. Boris is a twat. Corbyn wasn't even capable of beating a twat.

But less of that. We have a virus to beat.
Boris and some of his now very quiet cohorts are a busted flush and he knows, they know it, just look at Boris’s demeanour at his conferences, look into his eyes.

As for shopping etc, no more supermarkets use home delivery, use butchers and fruit shops for fresh food, keep away from processed food, wear gloves and masks, brisk fresh air walks and plenty of fresh air into your lungs, no public contact and spend our life on the settee watching tv, decorating doing the garden. If all of us did that this virus might subside in a few weeks.
For those who think otherwise look at Italy, no where near its peak yet and hundreds are dying daily and today it’s been announced over 42 African countries are now infected and its now raised its head in India early stage as yet but as we speak the Indian Government are having a practice lockdown in Delhi. Ask yourselves why.
Total Lockdown your loved ones.
 

djr8369

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I don’t why people don’t accept the inevitable that in the end 20 - 30,000 will die and all that can be done is restricting the rate of climb over 12 months - I can’t see any estimates below these figures

Who isn’t accepting that? You’ve spent the last 10 days arguing we’re not on the same trajectory as Italy!


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djr8369

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With apologies for losing my rag, but it’s absolute idiocy to pretend that this isn’t real.

The problem with people pushing the ‘no worse than flu’, or ‘it’s all made up’ line, is that it encourages to the kind of moronic behaviour that we’re seeing out there at the moment.

If you don’t think it’s serious yet, give it a couple a weeks and see if your opinion has changed.

Or, you know, do ten minutes of research on a serious news or science site, rather than relying on three mates on WhatsApp...

You’d think people could see what is going on elsewhere in the world and start to see the pattern of being continually wrong about it be nothing over the last few weeks, but no.


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Sick Boy

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“We cannot disguise or sugar-coat the threat,” he said. “The numbers are very stark, and they are accelerating. We are only a matter of weeks – two or three – behind Italy. The Italians have a superb healthcare system. And yet their doctors and nurses have been completely overwhelmed by the demand. The Italian death toll is already in the thousands and climbing. Unless we act together – unless we make the heroic and collective national effort to slow the spread – then it is all too likely that our own NHS will be similarly overwhelmed.”

A quote from De Pfeffel Johnson, he could do his own part in all of this and impose a lockdown. All he’s doing his ensuring that the situation here is replicated there, if not worse.
 

djr8369

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this does have all the hallmarks of your classic conspiracy theory.

a huge, worldwide threat which necessitates all human freedoms being curtailed “for our own good”.

Also it’s been pointed out that whereas Boris said he’d have all this going the right way within 12 weeks, the power to detain anyone for anything & impose social lockdown is in place for at least two years.

Because 12 weeks is Johnson being optimistic in terms of bending the curve. The on/off social distancing measures may continue for 2 years, as shown by an article I’ve linked to previously.


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SBAndy

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Wouldn’t surprise me if lockdown was a day or so away now. The other half saw military personnel walking round Bulkington yesterday afternoon, having never seen it happen in the 24 years she’s lived there. Granted there’s a barracks down the road but just seems a little coincidental. Brace yourselves.
 

Sick Boy

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Can you give some examples?


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Essential businesses are supermarkets, pharmacies, food related factories and warehouses and anything related to medicine.
The law is set to be signed later on today and come into effect from tonight.
A lot of companies are still open with minimal staff in the office itself, this law is to stop that from happening.
 

wingy

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Essential businesses are supermarkets, pharmacies, food related factories and warehouses and anything related to medicine.
The law is set to be signed later on today and come into effect from tonight.
A lot of companies are still open with minimal staff in the office itself, this law is to stop that from happening.
Does that mean your gaffer can now do one re the use of holidays when working from home?
 

Sick Boy

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Does that mean your gaffer can now do one re the use of holidays when working from home?
Hmmm it’s not clear if it’s actually legal for them to do or not, I’ve heard different things from different people but my accountant has put me in touch with a legal consultant to get more official information.
I’m in the early days of starting my own business so it’s given me that extra bit of motivation to do as much as possible now. Even before this I had a soft aim of leaving there after the summer but now it’s most definitely the plan.
At the moment the wider lockdown is supposed to end on 3rd April but I reckon it’ll go on for another month at least.
 

djr8369

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Essential businesses are supermarkets, pharmacies, food related factories and warehouses and anything related to medicine.
The law is set to be signed later on today and come into effect from tonight.
A lot of companies are still open with minimal staff in the office itself, this law is to stop that from happening.

Ah so it’s for companies not following the guidelines rather than a change in what can open?
Would take always remain open for instance?


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Sick Boy

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Ah so it’s for companies not following the guidelines rather than a change in what can open?
Would take always remain open for instance?


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At the moment there are no guidelines that say all no essential places should close, its said those who can work from home should, so factories, for example, have stayed open.
Takeaways can stay open,yes but restaurants/takeaways are mostly shut as restaurants were ordered to close a week ago or so now.
 

Grendel

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Who isn’t accepting that? You’ve spent the last 10 days arguing we’re not on the same trajectory as Italy!


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ive said all along that in terms of number of cases and deaths pretty much every independent assessment is between those ranges - the only thing that can be done is to manage across as long a time period as possible and stretch it out
 

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