Coronavirus Thread (Off Topic, Politics) (6 Viewers)

@Nick that you on the radio? Didn’t realise you were a brummie

dubed said:

Global markets are crashing due to volatility, Once that settles and the market finds a level it will be our best barometer of how we are doing, good or bad. Believe in nothing else.

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And what is responsible for the volatility.

Brylowes said:

And what is responsible for the volatility.

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As you ask, supply and demand chain impact, real and possible, especially in oil. But I'm not sure what point you are making or how this contradicts the point being made.

dubed said:

As you ask, supply and demand chain impact, real and possible, especially in oil. But I'm not sure what point you are making or how this contradicts the point being made.

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Because I mentioned a few things being adversely affected by the continued Spread
of Coronavirus ‘financial markets crashing being one of them.
You corrected me by saying financial markets were crashing because of volatility, so
Are world financial markets crashing atm as a direct consequence of the virus ‘or not.

Brylowes said:

Because I mentioned a few things being adversely affected by the continued Spread
of Coronavirus ‘financial markets crashing being one of them.
You corrected me by saying financial markets were crashing because of volatility, so
Are world financial markets crashing atm as a direct consequence of the virus ‘or not.

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Yes, and the oil price war. I wasn't correcting you on that. I was making the point that the smart, geopolitcal, big money knows where the bottom of the market should be. When we know where the bottom is (higher or lower) this will give us the true picture of the impact on SARS2 on the world. We don't know that yet, so I guess that's was my point.

lordsummerisle said:

Wasps been playing behind closed doors all season from looks of things anyway.

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Apparently some poor sods accidentally got in and paid £30 for a steak ciabatta

Brylowes said:

Because I mentioned a few things being adversely affected by the continued Spread
of Coronavirus ‘financial markets crashing being one of them.
You corrected me by saying financial markets were crashing because of volatility, so
Are world financial markets crashing atm as a direct consequence of the virus ‘or not.

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It’s likely to become the biggest Bull Market in stock market history by the end of the year

Grendel said:

It’s likely to become the biggest Bull Market in stock market history by the end of the year

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So what are you saying, the Stock Markets are not only going to recover
During pandemic ‘but they’re going to rise like never before.

Ring Of Steel said:

You need to calm down. It is what it is, and the people (yes, they are politicians despite your best protestations otherwise) making the decision to go down the route of science as opposed to medicine are firmly rooted in eugenics & darwinism. You can squeal as much as you like, that is the bottom line, it is unarguable. You clearly have google as you're able to reproduce & fawn over every word that is said by the 'experts', perhaps try broadening your outlook and also google the views & philosophies of the people who chose to take this approach, it will all make sense to you then.

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Science and medicine go hand in hand-science is also currently working towards a vaccine. For the first time ever I find myself agreeing with Boris Johnson about the approach being taken and it is being criticised for being 'technocratic', or codeword for 'I don't understand it'. You're again trying to take the moral high ground when the evidence would appear to show that we are taking the correct course of action. Not even the SNP are disagreeing with it.

Brighton Sky Blue said:

Science and medicine go hand in hand-science is also currently working towards a vaccine. For the first time ever I find myself agreeing with Boris Johnson about the approach being taken and it is being criticised for being 'technocratic', or codeword for 'I don't understand it'. You're again trying to take the moral high ground when the evidence would appear to show that we are taking the correct course of action. Not even the SNP are disagreeing with it.

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Here we go...

And what “evidence” would this be?

Brylowes said:

So what are you saying, the Stock Markets are not only going to recover
During pandemic ‘but they’re going to rise like never before.

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The growth will be huge yes as this is not a slump caused by normal economics

Ring Of Steel said:

Here we go...

And what “evidence” would this be?

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Number of deaths and confirmed cases by comparison to other states of similar or even smaller size

Forecasts that show we are delaying the peak until other winter illnesses are off the radar

This isn't some plot to kill off the elderly.

Grendel said:

The growth will be huge yes as this is not a slump caused by normal economics

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The demand in the economy will be massive

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Brighton Sky Blue said:

Number of deaths and confirmed cases by comparison to other states of similar or even smaller size

Forecasts that show we are delaying the peak until other winter illnesses are off the radar

This isn't some plot to kill off the elderly.

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Before we go any further, can you show me who is saying it’s a deliberate plot to wipe out elderly people.

Grendel said:

It’s likely to become the biggest Bull Market in stock market history by the end of the year

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Bull markets ain't good for traders, we like vilotility, although bull markets allow for steady economies.

Ring Of Steel said:

Before we go any further, can you show me who is saying it’s a deliberate plot to wipe out elderly people.

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Let's be real if that was the case they wouldn't be letting 100 year old recover.

Ring Of Steel said:

Before we go any further, can you show me who is saying it’s a deliberate plot to wipe out elderly people.

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Then you’ll concede that a “forecast” is no kind of evidence. Then we’ll progress to round things off by dismantling the rest of this ‘evidence’, and we’ll be done in no time.

Brighton Sky Blue said:

Apparently some poor sods accidentally got in and paid £30 for a steak ciabatta

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It’s okay he applied for it back as council expenses

anyone wanna buy some loo roll?

Also think about the culture of the Chinese and Italy in how they look after the older members of their families! They bring them into their family homes and lots have families have 3 generations or more living together. Unfortunately it puts the older ones at risk because of the closeness they achieve and very little chance to avoid the virus if one member come home with it.

lordsummerisle said:

The Guardian, but despite it's myriad faults, less comic like than most.

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Lordy mate, you still an actual communist?
All these empty shelves and shortages of basic commodities must be making you all misty eyed about the good old days!

Brylowes said:

So what are you saying, the Stock Markets are not only going to recover
During pandemic ‘but they’re going to rise like never before.

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No, simply that when the dust settles over the next few weeks we'll be able to take our cue from the market as to how serious the effect of the virus is.

Market is mad at the moment. Dow has just gone from 3% to over 9% in the 30 minutes that Trump has been explaining his emergency health plan, with the help of his business buddies. We've had his mates from Google, Roche, LabCorp, mentions for Walmart etc. One big ad! Only is the US would you have testing drive-thus.

Sick Boy said:

My experience of it has been very good, calling it one of the worst in Europe is ridiculous, in Veneto it is every good as bit as the UK, go into Trentino and it's even better.

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I’m pleased you’ve had good experiences of it, really. Italy’s health system though is organised and funded by region - think it’s 15 regions or something like that. It’s the very definition of a postcode lottery as to how good your health care experience will be. Hope you continue to see the good side of it genuinely.

M&B Stand said:

Lordy mate, you still an actual communist?
All these empty shelves and shortages of basic commodities must be making you all misty eyed about the good old days!

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You equating the economically liberal Guardian with communism?

Tomorrow is going to be an utter clusterfuck on here

Sick Boy said:

My experience of it has been very good, calling it one of the worst in Europe is ridiculous, in Veneto it is every good as bit as the UK, go into Trentino and it's even better.

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Out of interest how long you been there - there for work or live permanently? I have family in the north - Milan area and also the south. Safe to say they’re all very anxious.

Warwickhunt said:

Also think about the culture of the Chinese and Italy in how they look after the older members of their families! They bring them into their family homes and lots have families have 3 generations or more living together. Unfortunately it puts the older ones at risk because of the closeness they achieve and very little chance to avoid the virus if one member come home with it.

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Yup, while here we just stick them I care homes and don't bother visiting them.


Been to my mum's new care home now six times, all different days and different times of days, daytime and evening and the most number of cars I have ever seen there on any of the days, has been one. Mine and one other. Car park holds space for about 50 cars.

Otis said:

Yup, while here we just stick them I care homes and don't bother visiting them.


Been to my mum's new care home now six times, all different days and different times of days, daytime and evening and the most number of cats I have ever seen there on any of the days, has been one. Mine and one other. Car park holds space for about 50 cars.

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You take a cat?

Of course, every cloud and all that.

Does this mean I can do a Chess Match Thread for the next few weeks on here?

Awesome captive audience

duffer said:

Is it possible that they’re not mentioning it because it’s bullshit?

Taking news off social media isn’t especially reliable. Everywhere is likely to see a very fast rise in cases, that’s what happens with epidemics.

I’m not entirely sure what the point of these kind of stories is, especially if they’re just made up. Is it to drive fear and hatred of Chinese people perhaps? Some knuckle draggers have already started down that road and we could do without further encouraging them.

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Quick search on Google backs this up. They are literally thousands of them in Tuscany and places involved in the leatherand fabric areas for all the high fashion houses. Been there some time.

Junior football now called off, when the kids are all at school I don't really get it

Philosorapter said:

Of course, every cloud and all that.

Does this mean I can do a Chess Match Thread for the next few weeks on here?

Awesome captive audience

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No

M&B Stand said:

Lordy mate, you still an actual communist?
All these empty shelves and shortages of basic commodities must be making you all misty eyed about the good old days!

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Proving the limits of evil capitalism!

Jcap said:

Out of interest how long you been there - there for work or live permanently? I have family in the north - Milan area and also the south. Safe to say they’re all very anxious.

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I live here permanently and this is my second time, been back since Jan 2019 and was over here for over 3 years before. I’ve lived mostly in the north east but spent 10 months in western Sicily. I’m working for an Italian company but working on setting up my own business and it’s going very well and already have a good mixture of UK and Italian clients, so hopefully this won’t impact it.
My partner works in the health service and she is beyond anxious at the moment, it really is very difficult at the moment. I was a little more blase about it up until this week but now it’s starting to actually get very difficult, the psychological impact of not actually being able to properly move around or even leave the country is quite surreal to be honest!

Tommo1993 said:

If it’s too much for St Andrews to handle with rearranged Birmingham and Coventry fixtures, can’t we just have them away like we did when the Ricoh was delayed?

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Play the games at the Ricoh to finish the season, grass growing in the warmer weather and BIGGER crowds.

COVKIDSNEVERQUIT said:

Play the games at the Ricoh to finish the season, grass growing in the warmer weather and BIGGER crowds.

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Just to add extra spice, the wasp are going bust so possibility.