Ring Of Steel
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Nobody has any idea what the rate of climb is or isn't, you just said yourself that confirmed numbers are irrelevant?
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Nobody has any idea what the rate of climb is or isn't, you just said yourself that confirmed numbers are irrelevant?
Johhny Blue
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I've made a decision to stop shaking hands with people. Nothing to do with Corona virus. It's that nobody has bog Rolls
SkyBlueDom26
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Brylowes
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This thing is escalating on a dairy basis ‘hourly even’ if Cheltenham were taking
Place next week it would be cancelled ‘no question.
If anyone had told me at the Ipswich game last Saturday that the league would
Be cancelled I’d have laughed in their face......and yet here we are.
AStonesThrow
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Nick
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How much is it the media / social media escalating everything? People fucking fighting over toilet paper because of panic.
David O'Day
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Is he comparing the actions needed in 2 small city states to the actions needed in the uk?
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The media have lost the plot. Take a look at this car-crash. Has there been a more alarmist, misleading newspaper headline in the last 10 years?
Nick
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YES BUT FOOTBALLERS DONT WANT THEIR GRANDPARENTS TO DIE!!!!!!!
Fucking hell, it's no wonder there's so many dickheads running to Tesco thinking the world is ending.
RegTheDonk
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Any idea of any the guideance from the EFL towards the clubs themseleves? Are they telling/asking their players to self isolate, hoping they'll all be fit in a couple of weeks? Are they allowing them to train together but take appropriate measures (wash hands etc)?
what are you comparing the NHS with, systems where access is by credit card only?
Brylowes
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I honestly don’t know is the answer, for most of us faced with a situation such as this,
We watch and listen and form opinions based on other people’s knowledge ‘but we
Tend to side with the experts whose opinions closely match our preference.
jimmyhillsfanclub
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I've calmed down a bit now.....you can't beat drinking at work !
GOD is still a c**t tho....
happy Friday folks.
GOD is still a c**t tho....
happy Friday folks.
Grendel
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Incredibly it seems so
David O'Day
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But when it ends with folk having a basement full of uht milk that they'll never drink it's a bit much
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Well now that you ask I'm in particular comparing in with the lack of palliative care for heart patients in 89% of hospitals. I could provide details of what I have personally witnessed but that is not for this forum.
More generally I wouldn't describe my experience of the NHS as much more than 'meh'.
Brylowes
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They are brain dead idiots though, you will always have them.
I just can’t help thinking that if the outcome of our season wasn’t so dependent on the action being taken,
More people on here would be in favour of the cancellation of sporting events and the like.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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The thing is if it were voided that would mean all payouts for finishing etc would also be voided too. More of a PL thing where the payment increases/decreases on league position, so they'd be less inclined to want it voided, but the state of finances in the lower leagues if this is the case it would probably shift those mid table lot more towards finishing/resolving the season. Or at least that's my wishful thinking cap opinion.
David O'Day
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Sky Blue Pete
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You can’t say that until you know everything including whether the virus hits again. What we gonna do? Stop travel forever?We're following the general trend very closely.
Hong Kong and Singapore put early stringent measures in and surprise surprise they're doing better than anyone else at containing it.
christonabike
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duffer
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As previous, look at all of the contradictory viewpoints, also from respected scientists. This, “you’re not an expert so shouldn’t comment” is a patently farcical argument when there are so many other theories from equally respected scientists, on offer.
Of course, if you’re coming at it from a position of thinking that it’s either trivial, and/or are a bit upset that we’re going to miss some footy, then obviously you’ll accept the outlier position put forward by this government without further analysis.
That’s entirely your choice, but don’t kid yourself that there’s only one rational science-based position to take here, because that’s simply not true.
Grendel
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13 teams in the championship are within two wins of potential promotion
duffer
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There’s absolutely no logic to this statement, no one is suggesting blocking beds. You’re doing exactly what you’re accusing others of here, letting emotions trump rationality and employing hyperbole rather than logic.
lordsummerisle
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Even Tories are realising what they elected..
"A councillor in an English village where one of the first UK cases of coronavirus was confirmed has described the government’s strategy of tackling the disease as “a crime against our country”.
Samantha Flower, who is a member of the Conservative party and a social care manager for Sheffield City council, said: “I’m very concerned. They [the UK government] are saying they want as many people to get this disease to create a herd immunisation. But it won’t. My suspicion is that they don’t have the money for social care or NHS so that the weak and the old die.
“I’m saying that as a Conservative councillor and I don’t care if I get sacked. You judge a society by how they treat their vulnerable people. You judge leadership by how it treats its most vulnerable people.
“How do we care for them – by saying it would be better for pretty much everyone to get this disease when we know that our loved ones are going to die? It’s not OK.”
Flower is a Conservative councillor on High Peak borough council and represents the Derbyshire village of Burbage, where one of the first known UK cases of Coronavirus was confirmed. Burbage primary school and a nearby medical centre were temporarily closed after a parent tested positive for the virus on 27 February, when just 15 cases had been confirmed in the UK.
She added: “We could follow the World Health Organization’s advice and stop this now but the government’s chosen not to. Our prime minister has just said to us ‘your loved ones are going to die’ and that’s not OK. It’s abhorrent. It’s a crime against our country. We have the measures and capabilities to prevent this.
“I’m not trying to be an alarmist but the World Health Organization has set very comprehensive guidance and we’re not following it.”"
"A councillor in an English village where one of the first UK cases of coronavirus was confirmed has described the government’s strategy of tackling the disease as “a crime against our country”.
Samantha Flower, who is a member of the Conservative party and a social care manager for Sheffield City council, said: “I’m very concerned. They [the UK government] are saying they want as many people to get this disease to create a herd immunisation. But it won’t. My suspicion is that they don’t have the money for social care or NHS so that the weak and the old die.
“I’m saying that as a Conservative councillor and I don’t care if I get sacked. You judge a society by how they treat their vulnerable people. You judge leadership by how it treats its most vulnerable people.
“How do we care for them – by saying it would be better for pretty much everyone to get this disease when we know that our loved ones are going to die? It’s not OK.”
Flower is a Conservative councillor on High Peak borough council and represents the Derbyshire village of Burbage, where one of the first known UK cases of Coronavirus was confirmed. Burbage primary school and a nearby medical centre were temporarily closed after a parent tested positive for the virus on 27 February, when just 15 cases had been confirmed in the UK.
She added: “We could follow the World Health Organization’s advice and stop this now but the government’s chosen not to. Our prime minister has just said to us ‘your loved ones are going to die’ and that’s not OK. It’s abhorrent. It’s a crime against our country. We have the measures and capabilities to prevent this.
“I’m not trying to be an alarmist but the World Health Organization has set very comprehensive guidance and we’re not following it.”"
Where to start with that. Takes the armchair science punditry on here to a different level. Where was that published, the Beano?
Anyone who thinks that Boris, or anyone in an elected position, is driving this position is delusional.
The policy may be right, it may not be, but if it isn't you have to question the scientific advice.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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As an organisation that saved my life my experience of the NHS is its fucking brilliant. What was your experience?
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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anyway moving along now that football matches have been postponed till April what about rugby? What with conferences etc being cancelled any disruption to rugby games will really affect wasps
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Hey, that's great and no rift here - I did say all of our experiences were different and inevitably this informs. My experience is around palliative care, twice over. One wasn't very good, the second bordered on negligence but the family have never been ambulance chasers - not even claimed for ppi! - nor did we want the added stress. It's not the fact that matters, it's what we had to witness as a family in a family member, and which I recall just about every day.
Sick Boy
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My experience of it has been very good, calling it one of the worst in Europe is ridiculous, in Veneto it is every good as bit as the UK, go into Trentino and it's even better.
