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Nick

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Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?
 

Ring Of Steel

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very good shout. I can’t disagree. I’ve heard talk about online teaching which could happen in due course

Ps there is no doubt they will close schools/ban larger social gatherings but just not yet.

He is dead right- I know that right now every single bus, train and plane is being disinfected & cleaned, while schools are closed they are all being thoroughly scrubbed & cleaned down, and I had to spend bloody hours setting up 'webinars' for my kids to have lessons over a week ago. The comparison is stark.
 

SkyBlueDom26

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Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

up to 72 hours on some surfaces i think
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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People ask "why is the UK so different from everywhere employing more drastic measures?".
The answer to that may be "Why has the UK suffered MUCH less from the impacts of SARS, MERS-CoV, swine flu and avian flu than many other comparable countries?" - beacuse of the expert epidemiological modelling and getting people to do the right thing at the appropriate time. We are (or used to be, before the virus of social media) a largely compliant nation. If people go off and do their own thing, the models will go wrong. We need to trust in the experts (Boris is only a mouthpiece).
 

clint van damme

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People ask "why is the UK so different from everywhere employing more drastic measures?".
The answer to that may be "Why has the UK suffered MUCH less from the impacts of SARS, MERS-CoV, swine flu and avian flu than many other comparable countries?" - beacuse of the expert epidemiological modelling and getting people to do the right thing at the appropriate time. We are (or used to be, before the virus of social media) a largely compliant nation. If people go off and do their own thing, the models will go wrong. We need to trust in the experts (Boris is only a mouthpiece).

I thought we'd had enough of experts? Wish these Tories would make their minds up!
 

Ian1779

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They can close the schools if they want but teachers should still be able to attend other people are having to try to carry on we had two cases at work last night, they didn’t say close the building we had to work on.
What about every teacher with a child?
 

skybluetony176

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Whats your point?
I think he’s pointing out that swine flu hit in Obama’s first year of his first term as president so he had little time to change anything whereas the corona virus has hit in Trumps last year of his first term so he’s had over three years to address this but hasn’t. It’s a criticism of Trump. Right Dom?
 

SkyBlueDom26

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More than 100,000 people in the US state of Ohio are likely to have the coronavirus, its health department director has said.

Speaking at a news conference with Governor Mike DeWine, Amy Acton confirmed there was community spread of the virus in the state.

"We know now just the fact of community spread says that at least 1%, at the very least, 1% of our population is carrying this virus in Ohio today," she said.

"We have 11.7 million people. So the math is over 100,000. So that just gives you a sense of how this virus spreads and is spreading quickly."

Ohio currently has five confirmed cases and 52 under investigation, but - as with the rest of the US - has so far carried out a limited number of tests.

Fucking hell
 

Marty

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My employers are doing their bit, we've just been told to carry on as normal, if ill, stay home and you will be paid fully, any time off will not go on your record, won't even need to self certify for first 14 days, I hope everyone else's employers are being so generous.
 

fatso

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People ask "why is the UK so different from everywhere employing more drastic measures?".
The answer to that may be "Why has the UK suffered MUCH less from the impacts of SARS, MERS-CoV, swine flu and avian flu than many other comparable countries?" - beacuse of the expert epidemiological modelling and getting people to do the right thing at the appropriate time. We are (or used to be, before the virus of social media) a largely compliant nation. If people go off and do their own thing, the models will go wrong. We need to trust in the experts (Boris is only a mouthpiece).
For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Phalidamide,
Y2K
Gulf war1
Gulf war2
SARS
Foot and mouth
Blue tongue
The uk will never vote for Brexit.
Etc etc etc. All things that experts got fantastically wrong.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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Iran's security forces to clear city streets in next 24 hours

Iran's state news agency reports security forces are to clear the streets in cities in the next 24 hours in the fight against coronavirus.

The death toll in the country has reached 514 amid 11,364 confirmed cases.


Iran not fucking about
 

Sky Blue Pete

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My employers are doing their bit, we've just been told to carry on as normal, if ill, stay home and you will be paid fully, any time off will not go on your record, won't even need to self certify for first 14 days, I hope everyone else's employers are being so generous.
Who?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Phalidamide,
Y2K
Gulf war1
Gulf war2
SARS
Foot and mouth
Blue tongue
The uk will never vote for Brexit.
Etc etc etc. All things that experts got fantastically wrong.
Not all experts
 

NorthernWisdom

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For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert.
Phalidamide,
Y2K
Gulf war1
Gulf war2
SARS
Foot and mouth
Blue tongue
The uk will never vote for Brexit.
Etc etc etc. All things that experts got fantastically wrong.
You still listen to the people who've trained for years and have masses of experience in a subject ahead of the bloke down the pub, as the experts will be far more likely to get it right.
 

bezzer

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Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

From the WHO -

It is not certain how long the virus that causes COVID-19 survives on surfaces, but it seems to behave like other coronaviruses. Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days. This may vary under different conditions (e.g. type of surface, temperature or humidity of the environment).
 

shmmeee

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Another thing is letters and deliveries.

It's all well and good saying don't go out anywhere and self isolate but if somebody has sneezed on a letter or a parcel then how long can it live for on those and how many people are in contact with it before me?

I did see somewhere package delivery is OK. Why I’m not sure but apparently they were relying on delivery drivers in China during lockdown.
 

Nick

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I did see somewhere package delivery is OK. Why I’m not sure but apparently they were relying on delivery drivers in China during lockdown.

It's then touching screens to sign for stuff. Not everybody will go and wash their hands straight away before they can touch their face.

Would have thought that delivery drivers themselves are at risk of having it and taking it into every business / home they deliver too.
 

shmmeee

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It's then touching screens to sign for stuff. Not everybody will go and wash their hands straight away before they can touch their face.

Would have thought that delivery drivers themselves are at risk of having it and taking it into every business / home they deliver too.

Got an email from Deliveroo saying they were offering no contact drop offs now, seems sensible. About to do an Amazon Prime order so will see if they do the same.
 

Nick

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Got an email from Deliveroo saying they were offering no contact drop offs now, seems sensible. About to do an Amazon Prime order so will see if they do the same.

Amazon drivers rarely know what day it is.

I have had a couple of deliveries today and had to sign for them both.
 

fatso

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You still listen to the people who've trained for years and have masses of experience in a subject ahead of the bloke down the pub, as the experts will be far more likely to get it right.
Errrr. But they don’t get it right, That’s my point.
Just to prove my point, I’ll bump this post in 3 months time, and you will see what I mean.
 

ccfc92

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My employers are doing their bit, we've just been told to carry on as normal, if ill, stay home and you will be paid fully, any time off will not go on your record, won't even need to self certify for first 14 days, I hope everyone else's employers are being so generous.

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