Biggest achievement, 87 Cup win or promotion ? (1 Viewer)
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fernandopartridge
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The cup win easily. Look at how many different teams have won it in since or even ever. It's a massive achievement despite Sky recently devaluing the trophy aided by the FA
clint van damme
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Back in the 70s and 80s if you'd asked people if you'd rather win the league or the FA cup a surprising number would have said cup.
It was a really big deal back then and the league cup was quite a big deal as well.
You say you've no interest in cups and I'm with you on that now. They've been massively devalued compared to what they used to be.
Teams would rather finish 4th in the EPL, which is criminal.
tisza
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That cup period was a unique time. Started from the top with Snoz and Curtis who genuinely loved the club. Snoz was an infectious character and passed it on to the players for a "happy" squad.
It played good, entertaining football.
Cup run with all those away games was a special time. That was a Spurs side packed with stars and international players. We weren't given a shout despite the league results.
Cup was so different then. It was massive. Nobody put out reserve sides. The media build up before and actual final day coverage you don't see anything like anymore. BBC would broadcast from early morning all sorts of shows with a cup final theme. The players coaches from the hotel to Wembley had its own live show.
It played good, entertaining football.
Cup run with all those away games was a special time. That was a Spurs side packed with stars and international players. We weren't given a shout despite the league results.
Cup was so different then. It was massive. Nobody put out reserve sides. The media build up before and actual final day coverage you don't see anything like anymore. BBC would broadcast from early morning all sorts of shows with a cup final theme. The players coaches from the hotel to Wembley had its own live show.
clint van damme
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I think every football fan in the country made a big day of FA cup day even if your club wasn't involved. You'd watch the coverage from start to finish. Did it as a kid and then graduated to watching in the pub or having mates round. Mad when you think about some of the silly bollocks they covered, team buses leaving the hotel, team buses arriving at the ground, celebrity pre match game, nonsense really but it was great.
hill83
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Oh, those Brazilians, you know? Circa 1970? Broke the mould. Theory out the window. Free expression of football. Uncategorisable. Is that a word? It is now! You know? Far cry from small boys in the park, jumpers for goalposts. Rush goalie. Two at the back, three in the middle, four up front, one's gone home for his tea. Beans on toast? Possibly, don't quote me on that. Marvellous.
Ricketts
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The odds are about right. If he did that every season the bookies would still be the winners.
NorthernWisdom
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Cup in those days considered nearly as important as the league. We won a MAJOR trophy.
clint van damme
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I've no doubt we would of got 6 points if European football had been at stake. Those games were dead rubbers effectively and we definitely took our foot off the gas once we'd reached the final.
M&B Stand
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it really was, when we won it English teams were banned from European competitions.
Astute
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Can anyone name the years when we did well in a lower division?
Can anyone name the years we won the FA cup?
You are not doing well to be able to win Division 3. If you were you wouldn't be able to win it. But the FA cup? Just a run in the FA cup is a dream to many. Several hundreds of clubs are involved. As others have said the FA cup was massive when we won it. Watched around the world. Wouldn't change our win for anything.
Can anyone name the years we won the FA cup?
You are not doing well to be able to win Division 3. If you were you wouldn't be able to win it. But the FA cup? Just a run in the FA cup is a dream to many. Several hundreds of clubs are involved. As others have said the FA cup was massive when we won it. Watched around the world. Wouldn't change our win for anything.
fernandopartridge
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What a load of shite. Success is relative to your current level. We are not a top flight team and haven't been for 19 years. Winning any league you're in is an achievement.
DannyThomas_1981
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Getting promoted to the Championship this season in the context of where we were when Robins came back and without a significant injection of money, and playing our home games away......to me it would be one of the biggest achievements in the history of our club.
The Cup was amazing and very significant but as an established top flight side I think it was expected that we would be in with a shout one year.
This would be bigger to me in the context of where Robins started the journey.
Anyway Cup runs/Wembley play-offs always bring out the non core support who learn a few songs on the train and think they are die hards; give me the core support any day of the week. I enjoyed Notts County away more than the Cup Final to be honest - I know that puts me firmly in the minority but just the way I see it!
The Cup was amazing and very significant but as an established top flight side I think it was expected that we would be in with a shout one year.
This would be bigger to me in the context of where Robins started the journey.
Anyway Cup runs/Wembley play-offs always bring out the non core support who learn a few songs on the train and think they are die hards; give me the core support any day of the week. I enjoyed Notts County away more than the Cup Final to be honest - I know that puts me firmly in the minority but just the way I see it!
Grendel
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We were far from established we’d been thumped by Liverpool the previous season and Makay left and we were going down
The one good think makay did was re employ Sillett after that clown Gould sacked him
We were saved that season just but everyone assumed we’d be struggling again - we ended up for a couple of years being a real competitive team in the top flight - this isn’t the same
NorthernWisdom
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The whole city was draped in colour, the whole city (and more!) turned out for the victory parade, the whole city was empty while the match was on, it brought people out from all over the place and you'd go abroad and people would know Coventry City because of the cup win. After years of the city getting hit with factory closures and general malaise, this was a time when we could all be proud of where we came from.
I've never seen anything like the victory parade, the outpouring of goodwill and celebration and... joy.
rob9872
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It was amazing, but it was a couple if days out and even then I still didn't expect to win in the final. Great times. Bigger achievement? It's all relative to where you are and this has been over a sustained period, every week almost leaving the ground happy with some reward.
JulianDarbyFTW
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Depends on your age, I guess. Cup for me, but for the young 'uns who weren't alive then, promotion would probably the pinnacle.
This and the fact the FA Cup just doesn't have the same kudos these days means it’s not seen as such a big thing. Back in those days as several posters have stated, it was almost as big as winning the league. There is a reason the cup winners get to play in the charity shield.
shmmeee
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If we win the league the last three years will have been mental. From 30 years with not even a sniff of success to a cup and playoff final at Wembley and a league title.
I was too young and not enough into football at the time to enjoy the cup win, so even though that’s objectively the bigger achievement, this period would top it personally.
I was too young and not enough into football at the time to enjoy the cup win, so even though that’s objectively the bigger achievement, this period would top it personally.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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With the cup you don't need to be as consistently good for as many games but back them the Cup was a massive thing to win - way more important than finishing top four which teams would prefer now. Even a league cup would be preferred over finishing second in the league - it's silverware. And we beat some big teams on the way (even though we ourselves were a much better team at the time)
But on the other hand the consistency required for promotion, playing away from home, the state the club was in just a couple of years ago and how quickly we've managed to get into this position after our last promotion is amazing.
Maybe it's because I was a kid at the time and it was more thrilling I'll go with the cup, but as an overall achievement promotion would probably be more impressive.
But on the other hand the consistency required for promotion, playing away from home, the state the club was in just a couple of years ago and how quickly we've managed to get into this position after our last promotion is amazing.
Maybe it's because I was a kid at the time and it was more thrilling I'll go with the cup, but as an overall achievement promotion would probably be more impressive.
peace ndlovu
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Remember being in Broadgate for the victory parade. Me and some mates ended up on the roof of the entrance to a department store (Owen Owen?).
It's bizarre that one of the things I remember most about that day is somebody falling off that roof and through the roof of an ice cream van.
There was a (raspberry) ripple of applause...
clint van damme
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I know who that was. He didn't fall he jumped.
The ice cream man gave him a leathering.
He walked round the corner and bumped in to a few lads he knew. When they found out what happened they went back to the van and gave the ice cream man a hiding
oscillatewildly
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I remember a similar thread a couple of seasons ago when the OP asked 'Checkatrade win or Lg1 survival?'
I was gobsmacked when the result was (fairly overwhelmingly as I recall) a preference for the mickiest of Mickey Mouse competitions and happy to plummet to the depths.
In answer to this thread though, FA cup win - absolute no brainer.
I was gobsmacked when the result was (fairly overwhelmingly as I recall) a preference for the mickiest of Mickey Mouse competitions and happy to plummet to the depths.
In answer to this thread though, FA cup win - absolute no brainer.
Astute
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Out with your stupid comments having a go at anything I post as usual.
So instead of being a twat as usual how about pointing out where I have said it wouldn't be an achievement. How about pointing out where I have said that success isn't relative to the level we are at.
It is dickheads like you that is doing damage to this forum.
Or would you like to show where you have had such a go at others that have said anything similar to myself.
But no. Just be your normal dickhead self. Don't worry. You have won. I hardly post anymore because of you and a couple of other dickheads. Well done.
Johhny Blue
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The fixture Gods gave us Spurs on the first day of the following season and we beat them then.
Mucca Mad Boys
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I weren’t around for the buzz of 1987, so for me promotion this year would be huge with everything that’s gone on the last 4-5 years!
Can’t really compare the two!
Can’t really compare the two!
fernandopartridge
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Carry on posting on RTG then, they've got delusions of being better than the level they're at so you'll fit in. I shouldn't have said load of shite as it was unnecessary but my post otherwise stands
Astute
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Does it? You made out I had said things I hadn't as usual. I asked you to point them out but as usual you didn't. You also didn't have a go at anyone who said anything similar.
Astute
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That was the big difference. The whole city came to a standstill. Remember seeing pictures taken in the city centre during the game. It was totally empty. I remember the homecoming. Even those who didn't normally like football got involved.
Would we even get the bus out for winning division 3? But of course it would still be a great occasion.
