Nick
Administrator
He should know more than most about this anyway.
I bet that's another fact that he "didn't know".
Meeting with Joy Seppala & Dave Boddy - Thursday 27th February 2020 (2 Viewers)
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He should know more than most about this anyway.
I bet that's another fact that he "didn't know".
mark82
Moderator
So do we.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
It reverts back to the council - ccfc have never owned the lease ACL own it - this is like pulling teeth
mr_monkey
Well-Known Member
You've missed the bit where Eastwood said it wasn't the EU complaint that caused the talks to break down
And if you take anything that Linnell says seriously then there is no hope for you mate as he has already flip flopped about 17 times on it all. If wasps came out directly and said it could be dropped then that would be news worthy but I'm sorry I don't believe a word that Linnell or the trust say about things
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
You do realise the EC isn't just one person sat at a desk you can ring up and have a chat to don't you?
To deal with the EC you have to use their formal processes which are all detailed and freely available for the public to examine on their website.
Which process outlined on there do you suggest Sepalla follows to get the EC to 'forget' about the complaint?
Grendel
Well-Known Member
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Do you plan to at least ask Wasps about the “forget the case” thing? Please? Even if you think it’s bollocks. It’s the only straw to grasp in this other than asking them to accept Sisus legal action and let us back anyway. Which is hoping the hedge fund that owns them has a heart who’s strings we can pull on.
Nick
Administrator
The one that Linnell said about, the week after he said there was no indemnity it seems.
Delusional, desperate nonsense.
oldskyblue58
CCFC Finance Director
yes thats probably a better estimate fp
Inflation since 2007 alone would put the price up on the Shrewsbury stadium by 139% to 20.5m
Grendel
Well-Known Member
What do you think the Eu is - Joy talks to Donald Tusk and just says “hi Just forget that letter I sent you?” Jesus
Nick
Administrator
Ironic really, the pair of them have no issues making things up about me to try and discredit me personally or this site.
Yet both have them only seem to know half a story judging by the arguments they put forward.
As it turns out, so many of the "You love SISU" types have ended up having an agenda for themselves when it comes down to it.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I don’t know. I’m not Wasps. It’s their request. Clearly they’ve made it for a reason. I imagine they have better advice than a bunch of random on a forum.
Why are you so violently against trying something? That’s what I don’t get? Why shouldn’t we try everything?
What’s the cost to trying that you are so desperate to avoid?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
See previous post to Dave
hopesprings
Well-Known Member
Can you just explain , in full sentences please, why if the EU find that something in EU law says that the price paid was wrong, it naturally follows that Wasps go bust. Surely the council as freeholders have set the price of the rent and the terms of the lease...if they have got this wrong it is their error and they foot any bill to the tax payers. Am I missing something really obvious?
Nick
Administrator
Where have they made this request?
You do realise you are desperately hanging on to something Linnell said? Again, he also tried to say there was no indemnity and I would bet he said CCFC don't want the indemnity mentioned.
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
we had a consortium hovering around which included a fairly wealthy and respected City supporter.
Guess who got involved causing him to bolt?
Nick
Administrator
Again, shmmeee thinks this didn't happen and it is a conspiracy.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
The EU action is designed to restore the market to where it was prior to intervention. The whole Wasps go bust and Jimmy Hill comes back to life and teabags every Sunderland supporter stuff is just fan fic.
This brought to you by the same people that were this confident that the JR would be a shoe in for Sisu and expose the evil council who had done us wrong and they’d be forced to hand us the Ricoh and Ann Lucas would be put in stocks outside. It’s delusional.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Wasps have to pay the correct amount and the bond price collapses and an already bankrupt company is well fucked
Grendel
Well-Known Member
4 bottles consumed now
clint van damme
Well-Known Member
leave this thread mate, even for a few hours, it's not doing you any good. We've all been there, place can get under your skin at times. If you feel like resuming hostilities tomorrow then fair enough.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Nope - you’ve not answered the point. Dropping it suggests fraudulent activity and will be the subject of further action against the complainant you idiot - this is made up spin
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Yep, it seems to have disappeared from the net now but the hierachy of lease agreements was in that construction report:
It is referred to here: https://coventryobserver.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Council-HoT_Signed_2Aug12.pdf
The head lease is between CCC and Coventry North Regeneration Limited (a wholly owned Council company). They assigned it to ACL(2006) which is now controlled by Wasps. Obviously if Wasps fail the lease reverts back to CNGR.
Nick
Administrator
How about shmmeee tells us about when his old man was meeting with Haskell and ACL about the plan to put CCFC into admin to take them over on the promise of being on the board and fan ownership? Surely they would have known that the lease would be broken at that point?
Get angry at all of us if you want, I doubt any of us have been involved in that because we believed we might get some self-importance. You go on about being mates with SISU when nobody is.
Is the anger just because you have seen first hand when people are snidey and up to no good with their mates for their own good and assume everybody else is?
Fuck off you little snake. The people you are going at on here are just everyday normal city fans, you keep trying to make things up to discredit but have a look closer to home.
Get angry at all of us if you want, I doubt any of us have been involved in that because we believed we might get some self-importance. You go on about being mates with SISU when nobody is.
Is the anger just because you have seen first hand when people are snidey and up to no good with their mates for their own good and assume everybody else is?
Fuck off you little snake. The people you are going at on here are just everyday normal city fans, you keep trying to make things up to discredit but have a look closer to home.
Doesn't facilitate future actions.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Im fine. I used to teach so I can handle 30 arseholes having a go at me.
But if people insult me, I’ll insult them back. If people ask a question, I’ll answer it. I notice no one can actually answer the points I raise so it’s all family members and concern trolling now but that’s fine too.
I know where I stand and I’m happy with it. Same as always. One day maybe one of you will have a rational argument laid out that I can get behind. But today is not that day so here I am. Same place I’ve always been.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
You’ll have to explain.
mark82
Moderator
Yeah, I'll certainly ask how they see the process and note that Sisu believe it can't be withdrawn (and that has always been my understanding on the process too, to be fair - I think the Telegraph also covered it at some point?).
If anyone knows anyone with a good knowledge of EU state aid law, that would be really helpful too. Would be good to get an independent opinion.
Nick
Administrator
You haven't answered things.
You are still going on about SISU not willing to drop action even though multiple people have corrected you? You just keep obsessing over something Linnell said and making things up about others that havent been said.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Lease should be registered with Land Registry as it’s over 7 years. So it’ll be publicly available through them if you want it.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
You haven’t answered questions
1 if the owners ask the Eu to drop the complaint where is the procedure and are there potential implications?
2 If ACL goes into administration the lease returns to the council with ccfc as sub tenants does it not?
covcity4life
Well-Known Member
Grendel
Well-Known Member
It’s in the fucking bond prospectus!!
That's all it has to do though, suggest it.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Whatever happened to Linnells expert? Can he put you in touch? Did he ever get back to Pete about this?
Ive read the same Telegraph article and it does seem the case but clearly Wasps believe it’s not. Frankly I’d back the council to have access to decent advice on this stuff, better than most, and Wasps to be talking to them. So if they think that’s the case there must be a reason for it.
