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Evo1883

Evo1883

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I think the average would be between 15 and 21000 in the championship.
Would be 28-32000 in the premiership.

Times have changed, evidently from when we used to get 12 k in the Premier league early years at some matches that wouldn't happen today.

For starters Alot of students would latch onto the club if ever back in the Premier league...

Times have changed, almost every Premier league ground is over 90% full, never used to be that way
 
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robbiethemole

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well at least I've got the jinx off my back yesterday!! What a relief, and I'm back to being without a voice after a game, such was my vocal support for a cracking, feckin team.
Donny played some decent stuff but never really hurt us when we sat in and absorbed the pressure. Not seen a sky blues side play such glorious footy for many years, flowing and always looking like we could score. Long may it continue, trust in Robins. PUSB
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Evo1883 said:
I think the average would be between 15 and 21000 in the championship.
Would be 28-32000 in the premiership.

Times have changed, evidently from when we used to get 12 k in the Premier league early years at some matches that wouldn't happen today.

For starters Alot of students would latch onto the club if ever back in the Premier league...

Times have changed, almost every Premier league ground is over 90% full, never used to be that way
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To average 32,000 means we’d sell out virtually every game. Bournemouth, Burnley C Palace on a Monday night TV game?
 
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theferret

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On attendances, people have to remember we're going through the worst spell in our entire history as far as attendances are concerned. Our 5 lowest post-war season averages have all come in the last 7 seasons. What we have seen recently is pretty much as bad as it gets. We turned the corner last season you felt, but being exiled again has obviously put the brakes on that recovery.

You do feel though, promotion this season and we'd likely well exceed the lowest Ricoh average at that level of 15K in our relegation season.
 
Liquid Gold

Liquid Gold

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Does everybody seriously believe it’s coincidence we’ve developed into a slick passing side the first season we’ve not had to play on a ploughed field? Without playing that football our results wouldn’t be anywhere near as good.
 
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matesx

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Liquid Gold said:
Does everybody seriously believe it’s coincidence we’ve developed into a slick passing side the first season we’ve not had to play on a ploughed field? Without playing that football our results wouldn’t be anywhere near as good.
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Did ok at Tranmere Farm
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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Football has changed. The championship has also changed.

Funnily enough, Birmingham are getting averages of around 22k at the moment when in 2015 they got 15k and only 16k in 2016.

The championship is turning into Premier League 2 with the size of clubs in that division. Away teams regularly sell thousands. I truly believe at least 10 clubs would bring at least 3000 in the championship. That alone would build up excitement in Coventry.

We are a bandwagon club. We have a huge number of people in the city who like a big day out. There are no big days out at home in League 1 or 2.

Birmingham at home, with the novelty, has the 'big day out' tag.
 
pusbccfc

pusbccfc

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Grendel said:
To average 32,000 means we’d sell out virtually every game. Bournemouth, Burnley C Palace on a Monday night TV game?
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To be fair, Stoke went from 15/16k to averaging 28000 for 10 years running. It's hard to tell how we'd do.
 
SlowerThanPlatt

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pusbccfc said:
Football has changed. The championship has also changed.

Funnily enough, Birmingham are getting averages of around 22k at the moment when in 2015 they got 15k and only 16k in 2016.

The championship is turning into Premier League 2 with the size of clubs in that division. Away teams regularly sell thousands. I truly believe at least 10 clubs would bring at least 3000 in the championship. That alone would build up excitement in Coventry.

We are a bandwagon club. We have a huge number of people in the city who like a big day out. There are no big days out at home in League 1 or 2.

Birmingham at home, with the novelty, has the 'big day out' tag.
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Sunderland are bigger than every Championship club apart from Leeds I would say
 
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theferret

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pusbccfc said:
Football has changed. The championship has also changed.

Funnily enough, Birmingham are getting averages of around 22k at the moment when in 2015 they got 15k and only 16k in 2016.

The championship is turning into Premier League 2 with the size of clubs in that division. Away teams regularly sell thousands. I truly believe at least 10 clubs would bring at least 3000 in the championship. That alone would build up excitement in Coventry.

We are a bandwagon club. We have a huge number of people in the city who like a big day out. There are no big days out at home in League 1 or 2.

Birmingham at home, with the novelty, has the 'big day out' tag.
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We're no different to most clubs on that front. It's a total myth that our gates fluctuate massively in a way that doesn't happen elsewhere. Look at Pompey, were getting 7-10K in the second tier in the late 90s. Sunderland went from 15K in the mid 90s to 46K by the early 2000s.

Had a Bristol City fan tease me about attendances recently, yet up until about 2012 we were by bar the better supported club, in the 100 years previous they'd only managed to beat our average on a handful of occasions. These things go in cycles and we're at the bottom of the cycle.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Evo1883 said:
I think the average would be between 15 and 21000 in the championship.
Would be 28-32000 in the premiership.

Times have changed, evidently from when we used to get 12 k in the Premier league early years at some matches that wouldn't happen today.

For starters Alot of students would latch onto the club if ever back in the Premier league...

Times have changed, almost every Premier league ground is over 90% full, never used to be that way
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I think you’re pretty much spot on there.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Not true that our crowds don’t fluctuate, we have got 7,000 and 28,000 within weeks of each other, and even in the prem/ first division could be 12k one week 26k the following week.

we have never been a club where we only vary slightly from average all season, it’s never say 16k week in week out, it could be 12k, 20k, 10k, 25k- the hallmarks of a club who have never really been consistent. The only time we had sustained consistent success we were getting 30k plus every game and it didn’t move too much, aside from that the the individual crowds in a season would be up and down like a yo-yo.

I agree with the rest though, and 10k at the absolute bottom of the cycle ain’t bad and shows that there is a lot of potential when we hit the up cycle again.
 
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theferret

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Ring Of Steel said:
Not true that our crowds don’t fluctuate, we have got 7,000 and 28,000 within weeks of each other, and even in the prem/ first division could be 12k one week 26k the following week.

we have never been a club where we only vary slightly from average all season, it’s never say 16k week in week out, it could be 12k, 20k, 10k, 25k- the hallmarks of a club who have never really been consistent. The only time we had sustained consistent success we were getting 30k plus every game and it didn’t move too much, aside from that the the individual crowds in a season would be up and down like a yo-yo.

I agree with the rest though, and 10k at the absolute bottom of the cycle ain’t bad and shows that there is a lot of potential when we hit the up cycle again.
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I never said they don't fluctuate, I said the same can be said of many other clubs. We're not unique on that front.

Also they were pretty steady in our last 3 seasons in the Prem. Averaged 20K and the crowds rarely dipped below 18K.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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theferret said:
I never said they don't fluctuate, I said the same can be said of many other clubs. We're not unique on that front.
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I highly doubt very many clubs have as big a gap between biggest crowd and smallest crowd in a season as we do, taken as a proportion of the whole crowd. 10k one week and 26k the next, that’s the equivalent of Sunderland getting 78,000 showing up for their next home game.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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theferret said:
I never said they don't fluctuate, I said the same can be said of many other clubs. We're not unique on that front.

Also they were pretty steady in our last 3 seasons in the Prem. Averaged 20K and the crowds rarely dipped below 18K.
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That’s because the ground wasn’t big enough. Had we been at the Ricoh then it would have varied from 17k for your Wimbledons to 32,000 lockouts for Man Utd, Liverpool and Villa- almost double the people through the door between games. That hardly ever happens anywhere else.
 
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theferret

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Ring Of Steel said:
I highly doubt very many clubs have as big a gap between biggest crowd and smallest crowd in a season as we do, taken as a proportion of the whole crowd. 10k one week and 26k the next, that’s the equivalent of Sunderland getting 78,000 showing up for their next home game.
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That sort of difference, when did that last happen outside of the community days? First game back at the Ricoh, but that was a unique situation. Before that? Perhaps back in the 70s and 80s when crowds were all over the place. Even the likes of United might get 50K one week and 25K the next. Sunderland had 7K for an FA Cup game this season, but the cup is different of course.

Get your general point, I guess the key issue being we don't, as a proportion of our average gate, sell a lot of season tickets so there is the potential for these swings.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ring Of Steel said:
Call it whatever you want, fact remains that at minimum there are 7,000 to 10,000 people not attending games that would have done if we were playing at the Ricoh
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No it’s your opinion that cannot be proven or disproven
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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Grendel said:
No it’s your opinion that cannot be proven or disproven
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You’re right, perhaps there was a mass cull of 7,000 people who attended games last year that do not attend this year.

It undeniably and demonstrably can be proven, what cannot be done is to give a comprehensive explanation of which factors have driven it.
 
Ring Of Steel

Ring Of Steel

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theferret said:
That sort of difference, when did that last happen outside of the community days? First game back at the Ricoh, but that was a unique situation. Before that? Perhaps back in the 70s and 80s when crowds were all over the place. Even the likes of United might get 50K one week and 25K the next. Sunderland had 7K for an FA Cup game this season, but the cup is different of course.

Get your general point, I guess the key issue being we don't, as a proportion of our average gate, sell a lot of season tickets so there is the potential for these swings.
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Happened all the time up to the 80s, and at Man Utd that’s a 50% swing, we’d get more than double or less than half show up for consecutive games.

I think we’re more or less saying the same thing though.
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Ring Of Steel said:
You’re right, perhaps there was a mass cull of 7,000 people who attended games last year that do not attend this year.

It undeniably and demonstrably can be proven, what cannot be done is to give a comprehensive explanation of which factors have driven it.
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You said 7 - 10,000
 
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