Mark Robins (1 Viewer)

Adge said:

Long may it continue. One if not the only one thing the owners have got right during their incompetent tenure

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Thankfully this blinkered point of view if slowly being silenced, I am not saying they haven’t made A LOT of mistakes however we could be a lot worse off.
Time to take a step back and realise that our situation was a result of a whole host of twats!

Evo1883 said:

Not really rubbish is it, Sunderland with the correct manager would be going only one way... Barnsley will never go any further than championship strugglers

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Barnsley are above Sunderland in the league pyramid

His win ratio is really impressive. I also think his loss ratio would be very good and would compare favourably with past City managers. We don’t seem to lose as many games with Robins.

jimmy the gonna said:

Thankfully this blinkered point of view if slowly being silenced, I am not saying they haven’t made A LOT of mistakes however we could be a lot worse off.
Time to take a step back and realise that our situation was a result of a whole host of twats!

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Anyway back to thread, yes we have a great manager let’s enjoy it!

Evo1883 said:

I don't think it's sinking in.... Sunderland a bigger club with much bigger resources and a better chance of ever getting back to the promised land... Under the correct manager.

Barnsley will never get back to the Premier league

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And we will? They’re far better resourced and stable than us

Grendel said:

So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?

Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight

Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?

No

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You can’t compare the two. Each deserves merit in their own way.

SlowerThanPlatt said:

Rubbish. We’re a bigger club than Bournemouth. Howe isn’t coming here and Robins isn’t going there

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Of course we're not. Historically yes, but we were in the 4th division just a year or two ago and they've had a number of consecutive seasons in the top flight

They are bigger than us by some distance and will be for a long time

A manager wouldn’t leave a bottom half Premier League club for example Norwich or Bournemouth for Leeds because Leeds have been in the top 4 before and have the fanbase to do it again in the future

Evo1883 said:

Well the Bristol manager went to Mansfield... A league below

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That was to be closer to his family

SlowerThanPlatt said:

A manager wouldn’t leave a bottom half Premier League club for example Norwich or Bournemouth for Leeds because Leeds have been in the top 4 before and have the fanbase to do it again in the future

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Or a player

Evo1883 said:

You don't think if Leeds came and offered Eddie howe a massive wage and a healthy transfer budget he wouldnt jump ship... With the club on the cusp of promotion and a chance to become a legend... Whilst Bournemouth look like going one way and Leeds the other

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Would he? Are there any examples of this happening? I can’t remember one

Evo1883 said:

Howard Wilkinson dropped down a division to become Sheffield Wednesday manager after managing Notts County a division above

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So none in recent times?

Evo1883 said:

Dont move the goalposts

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There’s one example in 1983 which is not really applicable to 2020 with the Premier League as we know it now

Evo1883 said:

You asked for an example I gave you one in 30 seconds... Its neither here nor there... I don't think Robins would leave us for a Barnsley this time.
Turning away Sunderland would have been a much harder thing to do in my opinion, we will have to agree to disagree

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Yes we will have to. I just don’t think that’s a major part of a players or managers thinking really, it’s all about the present situation and not the past imo

Grendel said:

I’m not sure if that means anything does it?

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It means more happy days than sad

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SlowerThanPlatt said:

I know we all love to think our manager and players will stick with us no matter what but if a Barnsley or someone of that ilk came in for him he’d be off or at least giving it serious consideration

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Jesus Christ

Not because I'm disagreeing with the reality but still...damn

It's a fact of life. Pretty much every club is a stepping stone in a player or managers career.

Whilst he is here, I will give him my full support, (as I do for all managers and players)

Evo1883 said:

Wasn't it pretty much the same journey up? If he somehow gets us up again then he's on course to match what hill achieved surely

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If he gets us promoted all the way into the top flight, provides sell-out entertainment and sets the whole of Coventry and Warwickshire alight with passion for CCFC, then yes.
I like Robins and he’s doing a good job with this team, but the Jimmy Hill era was something else entirely.

Evo1883 said:

You don't think if Leeds came and offered Eddie howe a massive wage and a healthy transfer budget he wouldnt jump ship... With the club on the cusp of promotion and a chance to become a legend... Whilst Bournemouth look like going one way and Leeds the other... He'd be gone tomorrow

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Very doubtful indeed, he'll still never have anything like the budget he's got at Bournemouth, nor the patience from fans. He couldn't do it at Burnley

Grendel said:

How many teams had he got promoted other than us?

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That wasn’t my point .. I was saying that if Robins got in his taxi now .. who would be suggested to replace him with that has a better win %?

Evo1883 said:

I don't think it's sinking in.... Sunderland a bigger club with much bigger resources and a better chance of ever getting back to the promised land... Under the correct manager.

Barnsley will never get back to the Premier league

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Just like Leicester would never win the Premier League. Just like Bournemouth would never be in it.
Just like we would never be in the same league as Fleetwood.

I think that one of the most remarkable aspects of Robins achievements as manager of CCFC is that he’s had to do it without the luxury of having what Jimmy had. Everyone including the owners pulling in the same direction with a clear focus and goal. On that basis you could argue that Robins is achieving more than Jimmy, relatively speaking.

Grendel said:

So if he managed his entire career in the top flight he’d have the same ratio?

Hill and Robins never managed in the top flight

Is Dowie a better manager than Sillett? Is Robins?

No

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But, we’re not in the top division so that’s a bit of a pedantic point to make.

Win % isn’t the be all and end all, but it’s suggestive of success. Which Robins has been, a promotion in his first full season, then 8th in L1 and now we’re 3rd in the new year with the least amount loses in the league. Clearly, the club is moving in the right direction under Robins’ stewardship.

I know I will be accused as fence sitting for this but MR is right up there with the best CCFC managers in my life

Grendel said:

I agree credit where it’s due but he can’t be compared to managers in the top flight as it’s a very different circumstance

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Indeed it is - at this level our 'name' is a bigger draw than it ever was in the top flight but we had a larger budget at that time to accommodate transfer fees and wages. Plus there were plenty of times we had a squad/budget which should have performed better than it did because 'it's Cov innit' - staying up was seen as the requirement and once that was achieved the intensity died down as they'd done what was expected.

skybluetony176 said:

I think that one of the most remarkable aspects of Robins achievements as manager of CCFC is that he’s had to do it without the luxury of having what Jimmy had. Everyone including the owners pulling in the same direction with a clear focus and goal. On that basis you could argue that Robins is achieving more than Jimmy, relatively speaking.

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That's a fair assessment.

I wonder if Mark Robins fancies being a TV pundit.