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NorthernWisdom

NorthernWisdom

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Ian1779 said:
On reflection...
A devastating night for Labour. It’s biggest mistake was it’s call on Brexit. I have always been uncomfortable in the notion of not respecting democracy (check my posts if you don’t believe me) and it appears that the electorate want Brexit. Our members wanted to remain... but our members and people that vote for us are not the same.
We have our policies generally right. They aren’t ‘going back to the 70’s’ but actually sensible and progressive - but it didn’t cut through the Brexit chatter in the end.
Corbyn is going - the right decision really, but the next leader has to take on the progressive policies - they shouldn’t have the baggage that he had (although whoever it is I’m sure some will be found by the press)

Let’s hope we haven’t voted for the greatest act of sadomasochism the UK (minus Scotland) has ever seen.
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Minus Scotland and Northern Ireland possibly
 
fellatio_Martinez

fellatio_Martinez

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The prods aren't ready to let N.Ireland leave "the union" just yet. The place would descend back into car bombings and all kinds of awful shit. Give it at least another 20 years.

Scotland is a different beast however.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
And so the SNP have secured nearly half the Scottish vote while Sinn Fein take another DUP seat and Alliance take a unionist stronghold. Nothing to worry about there then because Boris’ll sort it all out.

People in some of the poorest parts of the country have put their trust in Boris and the party that has shafted them for a decade. All kosher, Boris will be dishing out unrivalled prosperity from the Brexit dividend.

Corbyn has at least admitted he’ll be gone next time. Locally at least, voting did make some difference. The SNP are the real winners today.
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tory success in previous Labour strongholds was an absolute god send for the SNP. Heard Sturgeon interviewed and she couldn't have been happier.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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It will be interesting to see how Johnson proceeds, Leavers should watch some of his relatively recent pro EU, pro Single and pro immigration videos. He wouldn't lie to them though, would he?
 
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SkyblueBazza

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Pretty much the only time, and with a hefty ounce of justification. I work in the public sector and you have Dim boasting about how great it is that the party that has shafted it for a decade gets a bigger majority. It is easy to humble brag about tolerance when you’ve got nearly 400 seats.

Then there’s people like you who interpret ‘I would vote for independence again if I could’ as ‘I will be allowed to vote for it’. It’s tediously frustrating. For the next 5 years they have been given a mandate to pass whatever crap they want because they piggybacked on Brexit.
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Once more, maybe your post wasn't clear enough for me at least. I thought you were saying you voted in the last Scottish referendum & would vote for independence if you could (I.e. if there was a new referendum)

Glad we cleared that up.

Insults thrown around because of frustration - which is why they were thrown at you previously.

Anyhow, no hard feelings on my part. Hopefully, the whole of the UK will now pull together & make a bright future for us all.

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NorthernWisdom

NorthernWisdom

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Sick Boy said:
It will be interesting to see how Johnson proceeds, Leavers should watch some of his relatively recent pro EU, pro Single and pro immigration videos. He wouldn't lie to them though, would he?
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My only hope domestically (and internationally, to an extent) is that with a relatively big majority, he can sack off the right wingers and revert to 'old' Boris.
 
Mild-Mannered Janitor

Mild-Mannered Janitor

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Lower number of seats than Michael Foot campaign, thought I’d never see that in my lifetime, listening to Labour voters who switched scares me that they have faith in Boris.
I understand it but it’s a nervy period for the next few years, in Ryton, our constituency had nearly 500 votes for the Monster Loony party, love village life
 
fellatio_Martinez

fellatio_Martinez

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DUP's Nigel Dodds loses North Belfast seat

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Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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clint van damme said:
Disaster for Labour.
I think the party will now slide back to a Blairite political vehicle which I would find it difficult to vote for. .

Great night for tories and SNP.
Decent for Sinn Fein and SDLP.
Worrying for DUP (when will politicians learn that getting in to bed with the tories never ends well?)
Disaster for Labour, Lib dems.
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I think a Labour government has to in order to get in power now.
 
NorthernWisdom

NorthernWisdom

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Sick Boy said:
I think a Labour government has to in order to get in power now.
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It's the big question though. Is it the Brexit special case wot done it? Corbyn as leader? Or manifesto?

Personally I thought 2017's nailed it between being progressive and socially aware, without crossing the line. This time was a bit too revolutionary in places (although not exactly OTT).

Have a charismatic and (more importantly) decisive leader and it could work.
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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NorthernWisdom said:
It's the big question though. Is it the Brexit special case wot done it? Corbyn as leader? Or manifesto?

Personally I thought 2017's nailed it between being progressive and socially aware, without crossing the line. This time was a bit too revolutionary in places (although not exactly OTT).

Have a charismatic and (more importantly) decisive leader and it could work.
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it's not just Corbyn though.
Brown and Miliband also failed, different leaders, different manifestos, same outcome.
 
mark82

mark82

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SkyBlueDom26 said:
Labour lost nearly every seat that voted leave, the deserved it tbh going full on leftie
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To be fair, "going full on leftie" probably would have benefited people in those leave seats the most. Unfortunately they're also the most likely to believe the shite spouted by the predominantly right wing newspapers. People have been whipped up into a frenzy about Corbyn because he's everything that Fleet Street don't want, and it's worked a treat. Corbyn's biggest mistake has been to ignore what's been written about him rather than defend himself. At least we've now got our very own Donald Trump for everyone else to laugh at.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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clint van damme said:
Disaster for Labour.
I think the party will now slide back to a Blairite political vehicle which I would find it difficult to vote for. .

Great night for tories and SNP.
Decent for Sinn Fein and SDLP.
Worrying for DUP (when will politicians learn that getting in to bed with the tories never ends well?)
Disaster for Labour, Lib dems.
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You cannot bring yourself to admit it is a great night for the Tories & Brexit supporters though?

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clint van damme

clint van damme

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SkyblueBazza said:
You cannot bring yourself to admit it is a great night for the Tories & Brexit supporters though?

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What on Earth are you on about?
I put great night for the tories. I was listing how I thought it went for individual parties, it's a fairly straight forward concept to grasp.
Anyway, good luck with your on going struggle to get to grips with the English language.
 
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SkyblueBazza

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clint van damme said:
What on Earth are you on about?
I put great night for the tories. I was listing how I thought it went for individual parties, it's a fairly straight forward concept to grasp.
Anyway, good luck with your on going struggle to get to grips with the English language.
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Ah - apologies, it paled due to the small 't'. Tories should have a capital 'T' - like you afforded all the others.

So maybe it is your own struggle not mine?

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clint van damme

clint van damme

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SkyblueBazza said:
Ah - apologies, it paled due to the small 't'. Tories should have a capital 'T' - like you afforded all the others.

So maybe it is your own struggle not mine?

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if not capitalising a letter leads to you not understanding a sentence then the struggle is still yours.
 
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