shmmeee
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Not party political. Blair wanted privatisation too. Point is it’s already happening so the idea “they’ll never get away with it” is a little naive.
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Not party political. Blair wanted privatisation too. Point is it’s already happening so the idea “they’ll never get away with it” is a little naive.
SkyblueBazza
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As you swallow everything Labour says...I think you should be careful throwing that kinda thing out there
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SkyblueBazza
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SkyblueBazza
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I think you are right there. People who work for 'X' service provider are probably not the same people (even if simply moved from NHS to 'X' provider), & do not feel or have the same pride or committent to the NHS that those actually working FOR the NHS have & bring in terms of goodwill. I believe we actually lose value for money...but of course that is not measurable on a spreadsheet is it?
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Boris still running scared of Andrew Neil. Let's face it, he hasn't got the bollocks to face him.
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Simple. Invite him on for Marr or some other dude then swap for Neil at the last minute and record the footage if he ducks out.
chiefdave
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If I was the BBC I'd have got him in the studio for the Marr interview last weekend and then said Marr's ill so we've got Neil in to cover.
clint van damme
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see Dominic Raab has admitted US drug companies will be able to charge us more for drugs post Brexit but says it's unlikely they will.
Yes Dominic, big pharmacy companies in the States who have instigated an opioid epidemic which kills 70,000 a year in order to make huge profits won't get greedy will they?!
Yes Dominic, big pharmacy companies in the States who have instigated an opioid epidemic which kills 70,000 a year in order to make huge profits won't get greedy will they?!
skybluetony176
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It’s alright we’ll only buy half as much therefore it will be the same cost.
clint van damme
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you couldn't make it up could you? What an absolute weapon.
skybluetony176
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It will avoid all the snowflakes that thought Marr gave him a hard time contacting the BBC in tears if nothing else.Boris still running scared of Andrew Neil. Let's face it, he hasn't got the bollocks to face him.
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skybluetony176
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It sounds like he’s one of the favourites to lose his seat so at least they’ll be getting rid of one of their Diane Abbott’s, just Boris to go.
clint van damme
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I think even she knows how important Dover is to UK trade.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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That was exactly what I said they should've done
Ian1779
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Hold tight - CCHQ will be along soon to tell us all we’re off our tits on overpriced opioids....
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Like it was promised the Royal Mail shares wouldn't be sold immediately making a massive profit on a ridiculous low offer price?
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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I think that's a bit far. Just politics of wording something very carefully so you can get around what you actually mean.
SkyblueBazza
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The Pharma companies don't dish the drugs out...what you're suggesting is that Doctors are easily incorruptible.
IF they charge more for their drugs...I can guarantee you that unless their drug has a pretty significant advantage over EU or UK alternatives Medicines Optimisation squads will actively move patients OFF their expensive ones.
Then they will reduce the prices back down but it will be too late.
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SkyblueBazza
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What...like...50000 new nurses you mean?
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Astute
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He got elected on no tax rises. But they did stealth tax hits. People soon got wise.
Tax must rise by 4p, Blair told
Astute
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So they couldn't make money selling drugs to the NHS like countries in the EU do presently? As in we 'might' have a drug shortage soon?
Astute
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No-deal Brexit could cause ‘fatal’ medicine shortages, health unions warn
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...hin-a-fortnight-of-a-no-deal-brexit-2hbzwzsbh
How many links would you like? It was mentioned enough on here as a reason we shouldn't leave.
Astute
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The problem that we have in the way the NHS has been privatised so far is it saves not paying out immediately for instance new hospitals. But we have to pay for it eventually. They build and pay. We pay for many years and they make a fortune out of us. And this style of contract comes out of the budget for the NHS.
clint van damme
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you might want to look at Purdues sales and marketing strategy in the States and how they pushed oxycontin.
I'm not saying that would happen here but they never would have succeeded without corrupt doctors, (and some naïve ones as well) in the US.
shmmeee
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Those aren’t threats...
Those are articles pointing out that if we no deal and disrupt supply chains we don’t have stockpiles to see us through. It’s not the EU threatening us.
shmmeee
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PFI was a result of trying to do proper government on neoliberal ideals. It was a terrible idea. What Blair proved is the Thatcherite way of running the economy can’t provide public services or improvements in QoL or the economy. It always leads to a crash because it’s unsustainable.
Which is why we need Corbyn
Ian1779
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I see Chuka is positioning himself to take over the Lib Dems - such a whore.
shmmeee
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Eh?
How about no? You want to arrest me for attending a meeting? Why?
Also, arrestables are trying to get arrested, not sure you’ve thought this through.
Philosorapter
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And the disaster zone starts again.
Will someone pop a question in to a hustings about what they would do about bullying in the workplace.
Will someone pop a question in to a hustings about what they would do about bullying in the workplace.
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Never been exit-polled before because Cov has been such safe seats but reckon there might a few knocking about in Cov S and NW this time round.
Philosorapter
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I think it's going to come down to a simple equation.
It was mentioned earlier on it he thread but I just let it go then.
Tory remainers and Labour leavers.
These are the one that are most likely to switch to another party or not vote at all.
It was pointed out that Tory remainers are the most likely to stay with their own party. I think there is another reason more logical conclusion that all of the groups respect the result of the EU referendum.
I can only see one group moving with enough clout to affect the GE and that is Labour leave voters moving to other camps or not vote at all.
It was mentioned earlier on it he thread but I just let it go then.
Tory remainers and Labour leavers.
These are the one that are most likely to switch to another party or not vote at all.
It was pointed out that Tory remainers are the most likely to stay with their own party. I think there is another reason more logical conclusion that all of the groups respect the result of the EU referendum.
I can only see one group moving with enough clout to affect the GE and that is Labour leave voters moving to other camps or not vote at all.
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shmmeee
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TBF blocking anonymous abusive twitter accounts is pretty standard. Same goes for that “Cov Road Safety” weirdo.
Sort of people that write letters in green pen.
If you want politicians to take you seriously on social media use your real name.
The Kings Hill lot are nutters. All over my local FB group as well turning red and waffling about bollocks.
shmmeee
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I think most of the recent movement has been Labour remainers actually. The gains have generally been at the expense of the LDs
