SkyBlueDom26
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Well being 21 i don't think I've found my wife yet lad
General Election 2019 thread (1 Viewer)
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Well being 21 i don't think I've found my wife yet lad
SkyBlueDom26
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There we go...
SkyBlueDom26
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According to Guido Fawkes, Labour had these documents 5 days ago, and didn't think they were worth making an issue of. The morning after Jezza's trainwreck interview, they changed their mind.
clint van damme
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stop now, please!!
Brighton Sky Blue
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I trust you will say the same if fatso is challenged on his long list of ill advised comments for 15 minutes? The first half was lazy attempts to secure some gotcha headlines.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Yup so this won’t affect you.
clint van damme
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Trump said on TV, in front of the British press, that the NHS would be part of a US/UK trade deal.
Are you calling him a liar?
SkyBlueDom26
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But will affect millions of others, its not that though its the fact that he lied saying 95% wouldn't see a tax increase from his manifesto
As soon as Boris lies you all jump on it
Grendel
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He will be that’s the point and if Johnson responds and shows grace to apologise if his comments caused offence even though misunderstood that is acceptable
Grendel
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At least though he shows compassion for others and a desire to expose falsehood
Critically he shows insight at the dangers of socialism and doesn’t unlike you just think in young I has better be a socialist as it’s the trendy thing to do
hill83
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Never go full arsehole.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Even now you can’t admit the truth about what he said. Just admit you’re on a team and only make excuses for one side.
skybluetony176
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he actually said 80%.
Brighton Sky Blue
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He would do well to show insight at the dangers of trickle down economics and mass deregulation that have wrecked the world economy each time they have been implemented. Unlike in your embarrassing twitter tirades I believe in social democracy not to be down with the kids but because it works.
hill83
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It shows him for what he is though. Thinking young people are just following a trend. No respect whatsoever the prick.*
*I appreciate the irony in that but I've got no respect for that twat at all.
shmmeee
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Political party in timing announcements for maximum effect during an election campaign shocker!
skybluetony176
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What are the dangers of socialism?
shmmeee
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He said won’t see an income tax rise. They won’t. They just won’t be able to share allowances. The rate remains the same.
shmmeee
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We might become happy and productive and untalented privileged people might not get an easy ride thanks to circumstances of birth.
SkyBlueCharlie9
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Ha.... quoting Lynn Truss is the best you have. Same old Tory rhetoric banging on and on about anti-semetism in the LP. Why are the Tory's suddenly so kind and caring towards the Jewish community and not others minority groups or religions? Smacks of desperation.
shmmeee
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Also “down with the kids”:
- successful happy countries
- most economists
- the majority of educated people
- the entire U.K. political establishment pre-1979
shmmeee
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Jewish people are the only minority that votes majority Tory I believe. Sikhs may be close as well I think.
Brighton Sky Blue
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I would love to see what the likes of G would have said in 1945 with Attlee’s proposals. Can’t afford it, healthcare for wasters, enslaving doctors blah blah blah
skybluetony176
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Johnnythespider
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Is your dad on here by any chance ?
Grendel
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The world economy has shown growth off the scale over the last 40 years in all major industrialised societies that have adopted the capitalist model.
The Labour Party model is an antithesis if this. You can bluster and dance around slogans all you like but the model is regressive. It is a legitimate argument to state this is a throwback to a 1970’s world when the government in power was entirely reliant on union support and the reliance was generated purely by the power they could wield amongst the nationalised industries as a direct consequence of union collectivism.
If you seriously believe 2008 was a recession I suggest you try a labour model which has eye watering levels of inflation purely driven by union power and colossal wage demands
Ironically the capitalist model now will protect us from some of those extremities as globalisation does mean a much lower chance of spiralling inflation and the interest rate explosion. However, the reality is the spending plans are on a horrific scale - the share co-operative plans and nationalisation are clear direct throwbacks to this past
you need to make your mind up if the Blair years were real Labour Party years or not. If they are not then the investment by socialist administrations in all forms of public expenditure are lower than the subsequent Tory government. If they are then what you are supporting then is a social liberal government not a socialist one. A party ethos that is hugely different to what we see under Corbyn
Oddly you express little opinion on this.
It’s very obvious if you have not experienced an electric shock then you cannot really comment accurately what this is. You and everyone within your age group have never experienced the true gruesome impact of a socialist administration where actually the rich still are pretty rich and the poor get very poorer
be careful what you wish for
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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The point I was making was that we keep being told "we know what we voted for" but how can that be possible if one of the things that was put forward as part of our withdrawal only came into existence after the vote? How can you know you're voting for something that doesn't exist? That'd be like me voting for the Laboural Demoscots - they don't exist but if I expect them to make a pact post election it's what we get.
I voted remain and yes, the EU has made it hard, as have a lot of remainers. But they aren't the only ones - a number of leavers, such as the ERG, have also made it hard.
shmmeee
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Im not sure that’s fair with Labour as a whole. Generally they’ve been the natural home for anti-racist campaigners. There’s a definite blind spot around anti-semitism on the left though, mostly overreach from criticisms of Israel or conspiratorial stuff about rich people that’s barely washed Elders of Zion stuff rather than the blatant stuff of the right.
skybluetony176
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Grendull probably thinks Harold MacMillan is a Marxist for his house building program never mind Attlee.
shmmeee
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My Mum used to teach the history of welfare and yeah it’s basically been the same arguments for centuries.
shmmeee
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Grendel refuses to pay for the family Netflix plan because it’s too socialist
Grendel
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I don’t think sides actually are really using minorities at all. Johnson is purely appointed because he has a track record in London of overhauling a massive majority from a hard left Major with a dodgy background
Corbyn is an old style rabble rouser with whether he likes it or not a past most leaders will never ever have
Thatcher whatever people think of her was the last in the era of real politics of this country against the adversary Kinnock. These were genuine conviction politicians who believed in what they said and what they wanted. Corbyn is equally as disingenuous as Johnson. He appeases to the centralists over Europe in a lust for power.
The truth really is it would be better if no one voted at all in the election and then we’d have to redesign political systems and remove successive zombie governments - it will never happen
for the record I’ve voted conservative twice in my entire life
Grendel
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he lost the next election
chiefdave
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How have you arrived at millions? The total number of claimants for the marriage allowance is 1.78m. Not all of those will be worse off overall.
