General Election 2019 thread (3 Viewers)

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
What will the Mirror, Guardian and Observer say?

Well the Guardian has gone with this General election: Corbyn declines to apologise over antisemitism in BBC interview – live news basically the same as the right leaning rags.
Can’t see anything from the Mirror as of yet.

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

Otis said:
You have to wonder how much better Labour would be doing if they had someone more acceptable at the helm.

So many people just do not care for him at all.

Make no mistake - unless Labour churn out Blair 2.0 then the next leader will get the same treatment.
If they do get Blair 2.0 then they will be decimated as a party.

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

Otis said:
Not in the majority of papers, nope. Not a chance.

I think they’re all going with this instead Sajid Javid falsely claims Tory leaders have never been accused of Islamophobia

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

Liquid Gold said:
Front page news tomorrow?

More chance of Elvis, 2 Pac and Madeline McCann being found alive on Anglesey.

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
Make no mistake - unless Labour churn out Blair 2.0 then the next leader will get the same treatment.
If they do get Blair 2.0 then they will be decimated as a party.

I guess you were a Michael Foot fan back in the day? Why not accept most people see sensible and want prosperity for the hard working and not hand outs to the losers in society?

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

westcountry_skyblue said:
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Making out like you’ve even got the faintest clue about Marxism....

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
I guess you were a Michael Foot fan back in the day? Why not accept most people see sensible and want prosperity for the hard working and not hand outs to the losers in society?

So by losers you mean underprivileged, disabled etc...

westcountry_skyblue · Nov 26, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
You do get I was being sarcastic, right?

I know just fancied a little pic to remind people of Marxism and what he gave the world!!!

westcountry_skyblue · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
Making out like you’ve even got the faintest clue about Marxism....

It’s a rotten failure c’mon where has it succeeded?

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
So by losers you mean underprivileged, disabled etc...

No I mean the underclass - benefits should never be a lifestyle choice do you agree?

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
No I mean the underclass - benefits should never be a lifestyle choice do you agree?

You only have an underclass because the capitalists just will never accept the word ‘enough’

Maybe we should look at the ‘benefits’ at both ends of the scale.... don’t you agree?

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
No I mean the underclass - benefits should never be a lifestyle choice do you agree?

And you have the nerve to lecture anyone on snobbery

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
I guess you were a Michael Foot fan back in the day? Why not accept most people see sensible and want prosperity for the hard working and not hand outs to the losers in society?

Hard working single mothers are losers? Interesting. Moronic but interesting.

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
You only have an underclass because the capitalists just will never accept the word ‘enough’

Maybe we should look at the ‘benefits’ at both ends of the scale.... don’t you agree?

Well I think if you achieve and work hard you enjoy rewards - I’m sure we all agree on that

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
Well I think if you achieve and work hard you enjoy rewards - I’m sure we all agree on that

I have no problem with that... but I want to see everyone given the same opportunities to work hard and achieve...

As I am sure you’ll agree.

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
And you have the nerve to lecture anyone on snobbery

Mr Corbyn I believe has a million pound property? The great socialist Mr McCloskey earns £400,000 a year.

I doubt these true socialists will ever have too much to worry about do you?

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
I have no problem with that... but I want to see everyone given the same opportunities to work hard and achieve...

As I am sure you’ll agree.

Everyone pretty much does

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
Mr Corbyn I believe has a million pound property? The great socialist Mr McCloskey earns £400,000 a year.

I doubt these true socialists will ever have too much to worry about do you?

Completely deflecting from the point. Goes well in the collection alongside not caring about the breakup of the country

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Completely deflecting from the point. Goes well in the collection alongside not caring about the breakup of the country

well Corbyn and me agree on that as he certainly doesn’t care

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

westcountry_skyblue said:
It’s a rotten failure c’mon where has it succeeded?

Isn’t China the world’s biggest economy with the second largest number of millionaires per capita?

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
You only have an underclass because the capitalists just will never accept the word ‘enough’

Maybe we should look at the ‘benefits’ at both ends of the scale.... don’t you agree?

Exactly. Being wealthy enough to join tax avoidance schemes is a cost to the public purse. And therefore a benefit.

Sky_Blue_Dreamer · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
Well I think if you achieve and work hard you enjoy rewards - I’m sure we all agree on that

I think we can all agree that if you achieve and work hard you SHOULD enjoy rewards.

I think we can also agree that if you achieve and work hard it DOESN'T MEAN YOU GET rewards.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
well Corbyn and me agree on that as he certainly doesn’t care

Bitches on and on about British sovereignty
Would sell the Union down the river if it got him Brexit

CCFCSteve · Nov 26, 2019

Not sure the MCB are representative of most Muslims. I think successive governments haven’t dealt with them due to historical links to extremists. I have to admit, I’m not sure where the relationship is currently other than looking at their twitter feed, very anti Tory (some of it possibly justifiable, some of it not)

From what I’ve read/heard the Jewish community as a whole was historically very much supporters of labour and this is a recent change of stance (I stand to be correct but think that’s the case)

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
Mr Corbyn I believe has a million pound property? The great socialist Mr McCloskey earns £400,000 a year.

I doubt these true socialists will ever have too much to worry about do you?

So how does being wealthy stop you being a socialist?

Ian1779 · Nov 26, 2019

CCFCSteve said:
Not sure the MCB are representative of most Muslims. I think successive governments haven’t dealt with them due to historical links to extremists. I have to admit, I’m not sure where the relationship is currently other than looking at their twitter feed, very anti Tory (some of it possibly justifiable, some of it not)

From what I’ve read/heard the Jewish community as a whole was historically very much supporters of labour and this is a recent change of stance (I stand to be correct but think that’s the case)

There are several high profile groups that represent the Jewish community. The fact that some of those are in direct conflict about this comment suggests that it is complicated - I would suggest this reflects the division on the Israel/Palestine conflict.

Grendel · Nov 26, 2019

Brighton Sky Blue said:
Bitches on and on about British sovereignty
Would sell the Union down the river if it got him Brexit

Corbyn has his strings pulled by Sturgeon - she said that at the last debate - he just wants the top job and doesn’t give a fuck about principals - don’t be so naive

westcountry_skyblue · Nov 26, 2019

skybluetony176 said:
Isn’t China the world’s biggest economy with the second largest number of millionaires per capita?

Ahh yes the democratic country called China,Do a good takeaway mind They do care for their citizens if they have a different point of view though.
Biggest climate change polluters along with India too!!

CCFCSteve · Nov 26, 2019

Ian1779 said:
There are several high profile groups that represent the Jewish community. The fact that some of those are in direct conflict about this comment suggests that it is complicated - I would suggest this reflects the division on the Israel/Palestine conflict.

think that’s right Ian

Walsgrave · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
Corbyn has his strings pulled by Sturgeon - she said that at the last debate - he just wants the top job and doesn’t give a fuck about principals - don’t be so naive

By that logic, Mr Johnson does not either - as David Cameron seems to think.

tommydazzle · Nov 26, 2019

Like or loath her I find Nicola Sturgeon the most accomplished politician of all the leaders. Corbyn had a terrible interview tonight imo. He seemed rattled and his calmness entirely strained and overacted. I'm looking forward to the buffoon Johnson being grilled but Andrew Neil needs to pin him down and prevent the usual waffle and sound bites. Depressing stuff really.

fernandopartridge · Nov 26, 2019

SkyBlueDom26 said:
Of course all the lefties would bow down to her and allow the referendum in a heartbeat mind

Yeah these single issue politicians chasing unicorns are a right lot

NorthernWisdom · Nov 26, 2019

Corbyn must have done alright because the random whatabout smearing's ramping up...

skybluetony176 · Nov 26, 2019

NorthernWisdom said:
Corbyn must have done alright because the random whatabout smearing's ramping up...

All on a day that a think tank fronted by a Tory claims child poverty is on course to reach a 60 year high under the Tories.

Brighton Sky Blue · Nov 26, 2019

Grendel said:
Corbyn has his strings pulled by Sturgeon - she said that at the last debate - he just wants the top job and doesn’t give a fuck about principals - don’t be so naive

You taking her words at face value when her agenda is there for all to see is the bigger display of ignorance. At least we can dispel the idea that the hard Brexiteers give a damn about the British interest

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