General Election 2019 thread (4 Viewers)

chiefdave said:

Wasn't just a name change either, completely rebranded.

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Proper pissed me off that has

chiefdave said:

ITV snap poll has Corbyn winning the debate 78% to 22% for Johnson.

Was conducted on twitter and not weighted in any way.

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From 30,000 votes apparently.

Nigel Farage tells Sky News he wants to get "the right Brexit done" and calls on Boris Johnson to change his Brexit deal and go for a Canada-style arrangement with the EU for the future that doesn't involve regulatory alignment.

As for tonight's showdown, he calls Mr Corbyn "a better debater" than Mr Johnson, but says he could never vote for him because he can't say whether he supports Remain or Leave.

He calls that "a complete failure of leadership".

Mr Corbyn is "trying to be all things to all people", the Brexit Party leader adds, but that doesn't work.

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Farage is really going to lecture anyone on that?

chiefdave said:

How on earth does twitter let the Conservatives get away with calling their verified press account Factcheck UK?

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I hope that’s a joke

Edit: Genuinely, WTF. It really is a race to the bottom.

chiefdave said:

ITV snap poll has Corbyn winning the debate 78% to 22% for Johnson.

Was conducted on twitter and not weighted in any way.

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sadly a formal proper conducted poll says something very different

Twitter has policies regarding deceptive behaviour on the platform. The company said it can remove an account’s “verified” status if the account owner is said to be “intentionally misleading people on Twitter by changing one's display name or bio”.

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Oops, wonder if twitter will have the balls to actually enforce their own rules.

Grendel said:

sadly a formal proper conducted poll says something very different

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It's impressive really. Spend a decade cutting things all over the place then offer to undo some of them and you get a 20 point lead in the polls. A bit like Eric Cartman's theme park business model

Blimey, people so concerned about the Tory press office.... Anyone going to make that a key decider in which way they vote?

olderskyblue said:

Blimey, people so concerned about the Tory press office.... Anyone going to make that a key decider in which way they vote?

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I'd hope that people do care that they think they can do anything and get away with it. I know it's worked so far but at some point people will start waking up.

Skybluefaz said:

I'd hope that people do care that they think they can do anything and get away with it. I know it's worked so far but at some point people will start waking up.

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you woke up to Corbyns antisemitism yet? Or isn’t that important enough?

olderskyblue said:

you woke up to Corbyns antisemitism yet? Or isn’t that important enough?

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That's grand just offer a quote of his. Maybe an article in a national newspaper containing Jewish caricatures?

Brighton Sky Blue said:

That's grand just offer a quote of his. Maybe an article in a national newspaper containing Jewish caricatures?

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so, you’re just ignoring it then. Interesting the fury about it in the Jewish community, I guess they must be making it up then.

olderskyblue said:

you woke up to Corbyns antisemitism yet? Or isn’t that important enough?

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Yes, it's one of the reasons that I'd rather not have Corbyn as leader of the Labour party. However is it as bad as the islamaphobia in the tory party? Does it have anything to do with your original point? No. You are happy to be lied to. Whether its painted on the sidew of a bus, or in the form of a twitter account. Cheap tricks, fooling idiots.

olderskyblue said:

so, you’re just ignoring it then. Interesting the fury about in the Jewish community, I guess they must be making it up then.

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Corbyn, like many people has issues with quite frankly some abhorrent behaviour of the Israeli government which is fuelled by the US hatred over many decades towards the Palestinians. Unfair to say Corbyn is anti-Semitic.

olderskyblue said:

so, you’re just ignoring it then. Interesting the fury about it in the Jewish community, I guess they must be making it up then.

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If it’s clear for all to see that he’s a raging anti-Semite, show me the direct quotes from him. Or show an article comparable to what Boris Johnson wrote about Muslims last year. It’s odd how a request for evidence becomes evading the question.

Could you even show me an anti-Semitic policy proposal from this year’s conference?

Skybluefaz said:

Yes, it's one of the reasons that I'd rather not have Corbyn as leader of the Labour party. However is it as bad as the islamaphobia in the tory party? Does it have anything to do with your original point? No. You are happy to be lied to. Whether its painted on the sidew of a bus, or in the form of a twitter account. Cheap tricks, fooling idiots.

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my original point was about the Tory press office. I’m not lied to as I don’t read anything they put out. Who does? Floating voters? I doubt there’s many that do. Most are already set in their ways already.

Corbyn is the reason I cannot vote labour, and surprised when people defend him. His actions with the IRA are well documented, and that is also defended on here. I for one could never vote for him for that reason alone.

Also, momentum should get everyone worried about how he is running his party, and then how he would run the Country.

Just my opinion of course. If Corbyn went, it may then give me a proper choice rather than the better of 2 evils.

olderskyblue said:

my original point was about the Tory press office. I’m not lied to as I don’t read anything they put out. Who does? Floating voters? I doubt there’s many that do. Most are already set in their ways already.

Corbyn is the reason I cannot vote labour, and surprised when people defend him. His actions with the IRA are well documented, and that is also defended on here. I for one could never vote for him for that reason alone.

Also, momentum should get everyone worried about how he is running his party, and then how he would run the Country.

Just my opinion of course. If Corbyn went, it may then give me a proper choice rather than the better of 2 evils.

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What did he do with the IRA specifically that caused damage to the UK?

Brighton Sky Blue said:

I would gladly sacrifice a few weeks of annual holiday in exchange for that.

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Easy to say when you have a single holiday that is longer than most people get all year and then get several more.

Brighton Sky Blue said:

It's impressive really. Spend a decade cutting things all over the place then offer to undo some of them and you get a 20 point lead in the polls. A bit like Eric Cartman's theme park business model

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Either a lot of people still want out of the EU or the trust Boris and the Tories more than the other leaders/parties

And on a different note....

Hadn't noticed before but Swinson constantly saying Bregsit. I would understand if English wasn't her first language as learning another language is never easy to perfect. She should know what the word is by now.

Astute said:

Easy to say when you have a single holiday that is longer than most people get all year and then get several more.

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Yes my job is very easy to be fair. Famously so.

Brighton Sky Blue said:

Yes my job is very easy to be fair. Famously so.

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I’m often amazed that with all of those going on about the holidays that the profession isn’t oversubscribed.

olderskyblue said:

my original point was about the Tory press office. I’m not lied to as I don’t read anything they put out. Who does? Floating voters? I doubt there’s many that do. Most are already set in their ways already.

Corbyn is the reason I cannot vote labour, and surprised when people defend him. His actions with the IRA are well documented, and that is also defended on here. I for one could never vote for him for that reason alone.

Also, momentum should get everyone worried about how he is running his party, and then how he would run the Country.

Just my opinion of course. If Corbyn went, it may then give me a proper choice rather than the better of 2 evils.

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Presumably you won’t be voting Tory then after their deal with the DUP and some of their links?

Sick Boy said:

Presumably you won’t be voting Tory then after their deal with the DUP and some of their links?

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Like selling billions of pounds of weapons to Saudi Arabia and being chums with Putin? That seems to be just dandy for some

Astute said:

Either a lot of people still want out of the EU or the trust Boris and the Tories more than the other leaders/parties

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It’s almost like we have a referendum by proxy instead of a real one.

fernandopartridge said:

What did he do with the IRA specifically that caused damage to the UK?

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I heard he copied Gerry Adams’ beard

westcountry_skyblue said:

Cheap comment as usual,Dont bother if you have nothing constructive to say.You’ve obviously never lived under a socialist government as you always say Blair was not a socialist government.
Be careful what you wish for,The last lot nearly bankrupted us.

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ok boomer

Skybluefaz said:

They are the party of cheap tricks, have been since Cameron. At least that prick fell on his sword.

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They’re the party of treating the electorate like a bunch of drooling morons and they’ve yet to be proved wrong.

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yOu DoNt kNoW tHe HoRoR oF a SoCiAlIst GoVeRnMeNt.

We really do get the government we deserve.

Corbyn Wins Backing From Over 40 Economists

Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere.

olderskyblue said:

you woke up to Corbyns antisemitism yet? Or isn’t that important enough?

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You woke up to the Tories anti-semitism, homophobia, islamophobia and just outright racism yet?

There’s far more evidence of it and an anti-racist campaigner like yourself would be shocked. I suggest you look into it.

Or, you know, stop using minority groups as a political tool by pretending you give a shit.

You can’t even post something anti-Semitic Corbyn has said whereas literally everyone can give you racist and homophobic quotes from Johnson. You’ve got Tory grandees screaming about racism in their own party and being ignored. You’ve got Boris hanging out with known white nationalists and Russian mob members.

But an egg on Twitter said Jews have big noses so RACISM RACISM RACISM and I’m going to vote for the proven most racist party I can find to fight it.

Disgraceful.

olderskyblue said:

my original point was about the Tory press office. I’m not lied to as I don’t read anything they put out. Who does? Floating voters? I doubt there’s many that do. Most are already set in their ways already.

Corbyn is the reason I cannot vote labour, and surprised when people defend him. His actions with the IRA are well documented, and that is also defended on here. I for one could never vote for him for that reason alone.

Also, momentum should get everyone worried about how he is running his party, and then how he would run the Country.

Just my opinion of course. If Corbyn went, it may then give me a proper choice rather than the better of 2 evils.

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Fucking craven.

“It’s fine to lie. I’m smart and don’t believe lies.”

*proceeds to post a bunch of nonsense straight from CCHQ press lines*

Have you people no shame?

Brighton Sky Blue said:

It’s almost like we have a referendum by proxy instead of a real one.

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Not unexpectedly though.

But of course it doesn't matter that Labour won't come out with a positive response on which way they want it to go. But last night should have shown you the damage it is doing.

Astute said:

Not unexpectedly though.

But of course it doesn't matter that Labour won't come out with a positive response on which way they want it to go. But last night should have shown you the damage it is doing.

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The current policy is crap. But if we had just gone with one in April then this shit would have been done with.

Brighton Sky Blue said:

The current policy is crap. But if we had just gone with one in April then this shit would have been done with.

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Don't you want it sorting?