General Election 2019 thread (2 Viewers)

chiefdave

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So, I believe, has essentially anywhere else that's trialled it.
Know a couple of people who have moved overseas. One to Norway and one to Sweden. Both now work 4 days weeks and say the same, productivity has increased. They also say they have far more flexibility over the hours they work, working from home etc which has led to a big improvement in quality of life and mental health.
 

Grendel

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Embarrassing - a presenter who shut Johnson down at every opportunity and was chronically biased to Corbyn as was the vocal rabble. Hats of to Johnson for escaping unscathed
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Embarrassing - a presenter who shut Johnson down at every opportunity and was chronically biased to Corbyn as was the vocal rabble. Hats of to Johnson for escaping unscathed

Let's be honest G even if Johnson had shat himself on the stage and smeared it over his face you'd be calling it in his favour. She even made a dig at Corbyn about spending to pacify the gammon crowd
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Know a couple of people who have moved overseas. One to Norway and one to Sweden. Both now work 4 days weeks and say the same, productivity has increased. They also say they have far more flexibility over the hours they work, working from home etc which has led to a big improvement in quality of life and mental health.

When you get Joe Bloggs booing someone for wanting them to work less, you know you've got them properly hoodwinked.
 
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westcountry_skyblue

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Wish Corbyn had said he'd leave a pork pie for Tubby
Cheap comment as usual,Dont bother if you have nothing constructive to say.You’ve obviously never lived under a socialist government as you always say Blair was not a socialist government.
Be careful what you wish for,The last lot nearly bankrupted us.
 

Monners

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30k nursing vacancies. - actually it’s 39k
40 new hospital builds - untrue
20k more police officers- Since 2010 the number dropped by 20.5k

Still, let’s get Brexit done
 

skybluetony176

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Corbyn talking about the 4 day week gets laughed at. 'Hahaha! I want to work myself into the ground! Trot!'
Happy people are productive people. Just look at the Scandinavian countries. They typically have a shorter working week, more holiday, more public holidays, longer maternity leave, longer paternity leave, strict lunch and breaks etc. Does it mean that have 3 day weekend? No. Does it mean that they work a significant less number of hours over a year than us that would equate to a number of less days? Yes. Productivity in Scandinavia is amongst the highest in the world, Norway is No 2, Denmark is No 4 and Iceland is No 5. Luxembourg is top with 25 days holiday a year plus national holidays, Max 40 hour working week by law etc etc.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Presenter was cutting Alexander off more, but he was continuing for longer (although Corbyn did it himself a few times) and it was pointless letting him continue because he just started going back to the one point of Brexit.

Crowd had elements supporting both but seemed more trying to heckle over Corbyn.

With the personal ethics I'm sure Corbyn was biting his tongue.

Dunno if it was just me but did anyone notice that Alexander struggled or didn't repeat the names when the questioners from the audience were from ethnic minority backgrounds?

IMO Corbyn came across as more prepared and calmer.

In a fight, it'd have been a bore with loads of trash talk but no real blows, with Corbyn getting it on points.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Cheap comment as usual,Dont bother if you have nothing constructive to say.You’ve obviously never lived under a socialist government as you always say Blair was not a socialist government.
Be careful what you wish for,The last lot nearly bankrupted us.

I work in state education. Tell me why I should vote Tory, based on their decade in office. You want to talk cheap comments, look at that fat prick's recycling of debunked 2015 talking points and pledges to restore the police his government took away.
 

Skybluefaz

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Presenter was cutting Alexander off more, but he was continuing for longer (although Corbyn did it himself a few times) and it was pointless letting him continue because he just started going back to the one point of Brexit.

Crowd had elements supporting both but seemed more trying to heckle over Corbyn.

With the personal ethics I'm sure Corbyn was biting his tongue.

Dunno if it was just me but did anyone notice that Alexander struggled or didn't repeat the names when the questioners from the audience were from ethnic minority backgrounds?

IMO Corbyn came across as more prepared and calmer.

In a fight, it'd have been a bore with loads of trash talk but no real blows, with Corbyn getting it on points.
Corbyn would garner lots more support from the likes of me if he just stated his position on Brexit. He wants to leave the EU because it's a capitalist vehicle. I don't even want to get into the ins and outs of it, but just honestly answer the fucking question. Even though it doesn't align with my views. It would gain a touch more respect.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Happy people are productive people. Just look at the Scandinavian countries. They typically have a shorter working week, more holiday, more public holidays, longer maternity leave, longer paternity leave, strict lunch and breaks etc. Does it mean that have 3 day weekend? No. Does it mean that they work a significant less number of hours over a year than us that would equate to a number of less days? Yes. Productivity in Scandinavia is amongst the highest in the world, Norway is No 2, Denmark is No 4 and Iceland is No 5. Luxembourg is top with 25 days holiday a year plus national holidays, Max 40 hour working week by law etc etc.

I would gladly sacrifice a few weeks of annual holiday in exchange for that.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Corbyn would garner lots more support from the likes of me if he just stated his position on Brexit. He wants to leave the EU because it's a capitalist vehicle. I don't even want to get into the ins and outs of it, but just honestly answer the fucking question. Even though it doesn't align with my views. It would gain a touch more respect.

Agreed on that, it was his weakest part of the debate. He can't say he'd campaign against his own deal...
 

Grendel

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Fuck me that’s some next level fantasy... you should see if HBO want to do a series.

the country will decide who is correct
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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the country will decide who is correct

The country has been given a referendum by proxy 9 months after May's deal was first rejected. It could have had a real one in 6 and moved on to the next stage. Only you can present that as a triumph
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Corbyn would garner lots more support from the likes of me if he just stated his position on Brexit. He wants to leave the EU because it's a capitalist vehicle. I don't even want to get into the ins and outs of it, but just honestly answer the fucking question. Even though it doesn't align with my views. It would gain a touch more respect.

He would, but he and his advisors also know that if he says Remain he stands to lose candidates in urban Labour seats votes, which could be crucial. If he stands for Leave he stands to alienate others. Staying quiet he annoys some people from both sides by sitting on the fence. Whatever he does it will cost him in some way and I guess from polling data the advisors have told him the way to lose the least votes is to stay quite non-committal.

How that will fare for him at the ballot box will have to be seen.

But one thing we know for sure is Alexander intends this to be about Brexit and will do his best to deflect back onto that at every opportunity. IMO not how a GE should be.
 

Liquid Gold

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They changed it to factcheckuk.

Fucking scumbags trying to mislead people.
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chiefdave

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ITV snap poll has Corbyn winning the debate 78% to 22% for Johnson.

Was conducted on twitter and not weighted in any way.
 

Skybluefaz

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He would, but he and his advisors also know that if he says Remain he stands to lose candidates in urban Labour seats votes, which could be crucial. If he stands for Leave he stands to alienate others. Staying quiet he annoys some people from both sides by sitting on the fence. Whatever he does it will cost him in some way and I guess from polling data the advisors have told him the way to lose the least votes is to stay quite non-committal.

How that will fare for him at the ballot box will have to be seen.

But one thing we know for sure is Alexander intends this to be about Brexit and will do his best to deflect back onto that at every opportunity. IMO not how a GE should be.
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