SkyBlueDom26
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Completely deluded, who are you to have a right telling people not to send their children to private schools....
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Completely deluded, who are you to have a right telling people not to send their children to private schools....
skybluetony176
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Not as ironic as Pritti Patel wanting to introduce an immigration policy that would have kept her parents and therefore by default herself out of the country.
clint van damme
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or as ironic as having a home secretary who lost her last brief for colluding with a foreign government behinds the PMs back.
SkyBlueDom26
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So you don't like the new policy being proposed??
NorthernWisdom
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Meh, not enough time for the ensuing eleventy billion pages 
Bottom line is Keir Starmer was state educated
Bottom line is Keir Starmer was state educated
Grendel
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So was Margaret ThatcherMeh, not enough time for the ensuing eleventy billion pages
Bottom line is Keir Starmer was state educated
NorthernWisdom
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And policy decisions aside (and I appreciate that's a rather big but!) what I could admire about Thatcher was her determination to succeed, despite the deck being stacked against her. She did well for herself academically, and succeeded as a woman when it was difficult to do so.
Of course she did marry into wealth, but that was after her academic career.
And this, of course, is irrelevant to the bizarre attempt to claim things about Keir Starmer's education which aren't true. With friends like those doing so, who needs enemies!
Grendel
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Shows the benefit of the Grammar system doesn’t it?
NorthernWisdom
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As a small aside, it's interesting how the Conservative Party modernised itself with Thatcher breaking the rule of the grandees, continued in that vein with Major. Now, of course, it appears to have regressed to the 50s and 60s, and an era of privilege winning the day.
If they wanted to show themselves in touch with modern Britain, Javid would have been a far more palatable choice as leader. Somehow (somehow!) Johnson's teflon, but eventually it'll come back to bite him - it always does.
If they wanted to show themselves in touch with modern Britain, Javid would have been a far more palatable choice as leader. Somehow (somehow!) Johnson's teflon, but eventually it'll come back to bite him - it always does.
skybluetony176
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Which one? The one that would make Pritti Patel an illegal immigrant or the one that would mean Corbyn would have to have gone to a different high school?
NorthernWisdom
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A couple of examples neither prove, nor disprove. I'd suggest both Thatcher and Starmer would have succeeded in a fully comprehensive system too - the extreme cases aren't the ones to look at when judging if something works or not.
Grendel
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Heath came from a very modest background
Grendel
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Not a chance. The reason we are seeing a move to private education for leaders is the comprehensive system which stifles such qualities and revels in mediocrity
Brighton Sky Blue
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You can read, right?
skybluetony176
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Remember when you went on a rant about me sticking up for Juncker, out of nowhere? Who knows. Maybe Juncker is martcov...
NorthernWisdom
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That's true, but he was to the left of Blair!
Grendel
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Well they both seem to spend most of the time in a pub - you might be onto something
SkyBlueDom26
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Where is martcov nowadays anyway, the remoan gang lost one of its most loyal members
NorthernWisdom
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You're obviously evil because you're left leaning, and therefore have to be argued against on every point, whatever you're saying!
skybluetony176
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I see the Russia report won’t go away either. A Tory donor is demanding it’s release before the election.
shmmeee
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It’s basically been leaked in the states hasn’t it? Seem to recall the issue is major Tory donors who Johnson wants redacting but redaction only happens for national security reasons.
shmmeee
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Could literally use this argument against every law and regulation ever. The answer would obviously be “the democratically elected law makers of the country”.
The state vs individual argument in childcare is interesting. Are kids yours or their own people with their own rights? Do you have a right not to vaccinate them? Not to educate them at all? To raise them to praise Allah and murder the infidels? It’s a fascinating area. Apparently in Sweden I think they see kids as individuals from day one and benefits and the like are theirs and not their parents.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Think if Prince Andrew was posting here Nick would know about it.
SkyblueBazza
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In a Grammar SchoolMeh, not enough time for the ensuing eleventy billion pages
Bottom line is Keir Starmer was state educated
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SkyblueBazza
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I only know of my statement on his education & did clarify that earlier...it was one of those Grammar's Labour is also keen to get rid of. And even at that time...it was a Voluntary Aided State School...so not quite the same as the Comprehensive I attended, but not Private.
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NorthernWisdom
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He was state educated.
Grendel
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Yes when the state had a education system which gave opportunity to working classes
Shirley Williams and Barbara Castle ended that
SkyblueBazza
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Yes...a Voluntary Aided School...a Grammar School...I already acknowledged that.
Are you just commenting because you feel I "have to be argued against on every point, whatever" I am saying!???
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NorthernWisdom
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It's because you seem to want to lumnp private and grammar schools together but hey, you're also quoting yourself, so what do I know
Grendel
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It's because you seem to want to lumnp private and grammar schools together but hey, you're also quoting yourself, so what do I know
There is a suggestion on wiki he went to a semi private school
NorthernWisdom
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Nah, it was in the state system, it just gets/got extra funding from a Trust because somebody's left it some cash at some stage. That isn't really relevant to the fact it's not about paying fees - it was a state school, and it was his academic rigour that got him in there.
It was... a state school.
Grendel
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In a day when endeavour was encouraged not just from the upper classes - socialism hey? Everyone equal except the rich and the socialist politicians
NorthernWisdom
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As I said, I don't have the time for this argument, especially as you're over simplifying it in the interests of rhetoric...
Grendel
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And you have no answers - the assembled comp mob on the shadow benches answers the question
