Back at the Ricoh in January (1 Viewer)

The coventrian said:

The fact is wasps didn't kick us out at all. We couldn't agree on a rent deal cos of the clauses wasps wanted. The clauses that came about cos of sisu running off to the eu. If this eu complaint hadn't of been filed we'd still be playing in Coventry.

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Complaints against the council, wasps moved the goalposts... End of story

The coventrian said:

Are you talking about yourself?

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I know you are but what am I?

The coventrian said:

How do you know I don't?

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It's a hunch. Based on the fact you don't go, have lost interest and found better things to do.
Would be strange to put money in given those circumstances. Though given those circumstances it's strange that your on here.

The coventrian said:

Pathetic isn't. Bunch of sad fuckers if you ask me. Nothing better to do with their time than argue for brownie points on the internet.

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Says the bloke who signed up to only do that? Not the brightest are you?

The coventrian said:

Ok one year then. Its irrelevant though isnt it.

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Not really - you brought up the wage bill, I’d say that point was very relevant to point out that they started to reduce the wage bill

The coventrian said:

Pathetic isn't. Bunch of sad fuckers if you ask me. Nothing better to do with their time than argue for brownie points on the internet.

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So what are you doing?

Oh yes pushing an agenda. That is sad. Do you really think that any of us will start feeling sorry for a rugger club taken away from their own supporters and dumped into a city where the vast majority won't have any interest in them?

Coventarian posts like a paid for muppet but who thinks he can make out he is not. Agenda big time, anyone can say they have supported the club for 30 odd years. I could prove I have by virtue of fellow supporters who would remember me and also having loads of programmes including 87 the official one and the CT one oh and the pink one. Loved the pink

slyblue57 said:

No I do nt beieve 5 -10 years out of Coventry is sustainable.
I also do nt think it would be sustainable to be Franchise London Wasps tenants on their terms.
Paying rent for game days only, no extra income, paying for their repairs to the stadium which are needed.
As for the gates getting back up to the average of 12000, I d love it to.
However you d just have more excuses from people. oh I can nt go its still SiSu, oh they moved us away.twice now..
Its too expensive, the squads no good etc etc
I did nt go Northampton, I do go to St Andrews. I dislike SiSu and wish them gone. I hope the Franchise goes bankrupt,
Pusb

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I think people would be well within their rights with the valid point of “it’s still Sisu-they moved us away twice”.

Adge said:

I think people would be well within their rights with the valid point of “it’s still Sisu-they moved us away twice”.

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Until we start doing well and they "Change their mind"?

Adge said:

I think people would be well within their rights with the valid point of “it’s still Sisu-they moved us away twice”.

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No wonder we keep getting fucked over when our fans don’t give a shit about the club.

Otis said:

Mixture of reasons really.

My mum has dementia and I have to go over and see her everyday and she has now had five falls, so is always in and out of hospital. I also sort out all my parents washing and shopping and financial stuff.

However, I am also struggling to find the motivation to go to St Andrews anyway. I just hate the thought of it.

Have nearly gone on a couple of occasions, but still haven't yet.

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I felt like that at the start but decided to go - football is superb (pitch brilliant) good atmosphere definitely worth going - however, will only do the one season -- back home by end of the season or that's me done

slyblue57 said:

No I do nt beieve 5 -10 years out of Coventry is sustainable.
I also do nt think it would be sustainable to be Franchise London Wasps tenants on their terms.
Paying rent for game days only, no extra income, paying for their repairs to the stadium which are needed.
As for the gates getting back up to the average of 12000, I d love it to.
However you d just have more excuses from people. oh I can nt go its still SiSu, oh they moved us away.twice now..
Its too expensive, the squads no good etc etc
I did nt go Northampton, I do go to St Andrews. I dislike SiSu and wish them gone. I hope the Franchise goes bankrupt,
Pusb

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I agree with all of your last paragraph.
I just can't see why gates at the Ricoh wouldn't be at least what they were before. I don't think people make excuses. They either come to games or they don't.
I would imagine that there are a good 6k to 8k who don't go to Birmingham who would regularly go to the Ricohand are waiting for us to come back.
I really can't see any other alternative for the club to be able to survive and thrive at at least third division level but to come back. While City make a contribution to the Wasps coffers, it seems only a drop in the ocean of Wasps debt. If they are going under I think it will happen whether we are there or not. The only significant money that the football club may generate for Wasps would be the stadium naming rights. Hopefully our club would benefit from that too.

Nick said:

Until we start doing well and they "Change their mind"?

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Well some of them haven’t “changed their mind” yet which is odd as “we are doing well”

Liquid Gold said:

No wonder we keep getting fucked over when our fans don’t give a shit about the club.

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Wouldn’t say that-1500 are off to Sunderland on Saturday.

The coventrian said:

They never kicked us out.
If there was no eu complaint would we be at the ricoh yes or no?

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Depends on whether rental terms would have been agreed.
If we move back to the Ricoh with the EU complaint still outstanding (both highly likely), would you then agree the EU stuff was a red herring?

clint van damme said:

It's a hunch. Based on the fact you don't go, have lost interest and found better things to do.
Would be strange to put money in given those circumstances. Though given those circumstances it's strange that your on here.

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You know nothing about me so stop guessing and throwing lies about.

Astute said:

So what are you doing?

Oh yes pushing an agenda. That is sad. Do you really think that any of us will start feeling sorry for a rugger club taken away from their own supporters and dumped into a city where the vast majority won't have any interest in them?

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What agenda is that then? I couldn't give a crap about wasps. I've no interest in rugby at all. I just got tired of the woe is me comments on here and the victim act all the time. The vast majority of this shit was caused by the owners but a small gaggle of fans on here wont have it.

pipkin73 said:

Coventarian posts like a paid for muppet but who thinks he can make out he is not. Agenda big time, anyone can say they have supported the club for 30 odd years. I could prove I have by virtue of fellow supporters who would remember me and also having loads of programmes including 87 the official one and the CT one oh and the pink one. Loved the pink

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Again. What agenda?

Nick said:

Until we start doing well and they "Change their mind"?

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We are doing well but attendances are around 5k you fool. We're not going over there for a reason. Why cant people like you get it through your head?

MusicDating said:

Depends on whether rental terms would have been agreed.
If we move back to the Ricoh with the EU complaint still outstanding (both highly likely), would you then agree the EU stuff was a red herring?

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Depends on what the terms are. If we moved back as part owners then maybe begrudgingly some of us would cut sisu a bit of slack. I don't agree with our football club being used as some kind of football though. And when push comes to shove they've moved us twice now.
What happens if we move back and the rental deal runs out say in 2 years time and sisu up sticks again for a season as they don't like what's on offer? Are you prepared to keep on putting up with this?

nothing new regarding the rumour yet i take it?

The coventrian said:

You know nothing about me so stop guessing and throwing lies about.

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I know about your on line persona and what you've posted. If none of it's true it's you that's posting lies you moron!
Anyway, you're boring me now and I've got better things to do than argue with someone who doesn't support the club on a CCFC forum.
I'll let you have the last word and I'm sure you'll get a cheap thrill out of that. Same as when you hit the white lightening in celebration on Saturday when you heard the trains were disrupted
you weirdo!

clint van damme said:

I know about your on line persona and what you've posted. If none of it's true it's you that's posting lies you moron!
Anyway, you're boring me now and I've got better things to do than argue with someone who doesn't support the club on a CCFC forum.
I'll let you have the last word and I'm sure you'll get a cheap thrill out of that. Same as when you hit the white lightening in celebration on Saturday when you heard the trains were disrupted
you weirdo!

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Have a nice day.

Adge said:

Well some of them haven’t “changed their mind” yet which is odd as “we are doing well”

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Remind me again what happened to your NOPM when we played in Coventry?

Back onto the topic, any updates regarding the return??

Nick said:

Remind me again what happened to your NOPM when we played in Coventry?

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You don’t need reminding but as usual dig up the grave when onto a loser!

Adge said:

You don’t need reminding but as usual dig up the grave when onto a loser!

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I am pretty sure you can see how it's relevant can't you?

Nick said:

I am pretty sure you can see how it's relevant can't you?

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Just surprised it took you so long to wheel out the old favourite.

The coventrian said:

Depends on what the terms are. If we moved back as part owners then maybe begrudgingly some of us would cut sisu a bit of slack. I don't agree with our football club being used as some kind of football though. And when push comes to shove they've moved us twice now.
What happens if we move back and the rental deal runs out say in 2 years time and sisu up sticks again for a season as they don't like what's on offer? Are you prepared to keep on putting up with this?

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The club's been used as a football for many years though by all parties. The council have always been quite happy to milk the club irrespective of who owned it and clearly Wasps aren't going to be a magnanimous benefactor. SISU only took over because they thought they could make some money. I'm happy to distinguish the team on the pitch from all these duplicitous arseholes and give them and them only, my support.
I don't think anyone on here believes SISU will build a new stadium, but at the same time don't want them to sign a deal that would ruin the club. What would you do if your landlord/mortgage provider decided to triple your payments and refused to negotiate?

Otis said:

I think we will, Fergie. People were pissed off last time and will be pissed off again. You can't keep pissing off the fans.

With it all quiet yet again on the new stadium front, people are getting mightily fed up with it all and of course, if we do go back to the Ricoh, how long before it all goes tits up again and again we are looking for yet another ground-share

It's the uncertainty of it all.

I still haven't been to a game yet this season.

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We need to get back asap. Poor otis is having to spend his saturdays with his better half.
Must be driving him up the wall.....

Adge said:

Just surprised it took you so long to wheel out the old favourite.

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I was just pointing out the discrepancy and lack of consistency.

Typical ref.

MusicDating said:

The club's been used as a football for many years though by all parties. The council have always been quite happy to milk the club irrespective of who owned it and clearly Wasps aren't going to be a magnanimous benefactor. SISU only took over because they thought they could make some money. I'm happy to distinguish the team on the pitch from all these duplicitous arseholes and give them and them only, my support.
I don't think anyone on here believes SISU will build a new stadium, but at the same time don't want them to sign a deal that would ruin the club. What would you do if your landlord/mortgage provider decided to triple your payments and refused to negotiate?

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If I had reported them to the police for alledgedly buying the house on the cheap in the hope of them going bankrupt and me picking up the house on the cheap when it gets re-possessed then I wouldn't be surprised they had done that.

The coventrian said:

Depends on what the terms are. If we moved back as part owners then maybe begrudgingly some of us would cut sisu a bit of slack. I don't agree with our football club being used as some kind of football though. And when push comes to shove they've moved us twice now.
What happens if we move back and the rental deal runs out say in 2 years time and sisu up sticks again for a season as they don't like what's on offer? Are you prepared to keep on putting up with this?

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Depends what the deal is really. We can’t just stay if the club don’t benefit.

Nick said:

I was just pointing out the discrepancy and lack of consistency.

Typical ref.

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MusicDating said:

The club's been used as a football for many years though by all parties. The council have always been quite happy to milk the club irrespective of who owned it and clearly Wasps aren't going to be a magnanimous benefactor. SISU only took over because they thought they could make some money. I'm happy to distinguish the team on the pitch from all these duplicitous arseholes and give them and them only, my support.
I don't think anyone on here believes SISU will build a new stadium, but at the same time don't want them to sign a deal that would ruin the club. What would you do if your landlord/mortgage provider decided to triple your payments and refused to negotiate?

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I agree with everything you've said.