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CanadianCCFC

CanadianCCFC

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SlowerThanPlatt said:
I thought you would be happy after demanding for years the academy produces Premier League players? Now it’s produced two who are England players and probably worth a combined £120m you don’t want to talk about it?
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Adge could win a million pounds and complain that it isn’t 2 million.
 
Adge

Adge

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SlowerThanPlatt said:
I thought you would be happy after demanding for years the academy produces Premier League players? Now it’s produced two who are England players and probably worth a combined £120m you don’t want to talk about it?
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Two out of how many?
No I don’t really want to talk about it (continuously) as they are not our players anymore and I am not as obsessed as others seem to be.
 
SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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Adge said:
Two out of how many?
No I don’t really want to talk about it (continuously) as they are not our players anymore and I am not as obsessed as others seem to be.
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We are the second highest providers in the English squad and were top 20 in Europe for Premier League minutes last season so clearly we’re doing better than quite a lot...
 
SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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Adge said:
Good luck to them-no need for the obsession.
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Do you think the academy has underachieved or overachieved by being the second best provider of players in the England squad currently and being in the top 20 in Europe for PL minutes last season?
 
Adge

Adge

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SlowerThanPlatt said:
Do you think the academy has underachieved or overachieved by being the second best provider of players in the England squad currently and being in the top 20 in Europe for PL minutes last season?
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Paint that picture if you like and the old stats argument comes into play.
Counter that with how many others were damp squibs over the same term/years.
Yes they have both done well and as I said previously good luck to them.
Let’s not pretend though that our academy has rocketed them into the England team it’s just where it started for them.
Better coaching/facilities/tactics and playing/being around better players/clubs would have had a bigger impact.
 
SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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Adge said:
Paint that picture if you like and the old stats argument comes into play.
Counter that with how many others were damp squibs over the same term/years.
Yes they have both done well and as I said previously good luck to them.
Let’s not pretend though that our academy has rocketed them into the England team it’s just where it started for them.
Better coaching/facilities/tactics and playing/being around better players/clubs would have had a bigger impact.
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So underachieved then yes?
 
SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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And why are you going on as if we’re hoarding hundreds of players like a Man City or Chelsea and were bound to get lucky with one or two..

It’s laughable
 
Adge

Adge

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Not quite as laughable as saying that our academy is ultimately responsible for Wilson and Maddison playing for England.
 
covmark

covmark

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Adge said:
Paint that picture if you like and the old stats argument comes into play.
Counter that with how many others were damp squibs over the same term/years.
Yes they have both done well and as I said previously good luck to them.
Let’s not pretend though that our academy has rocketed them into the England team it’s just where it started for them.
Better coaching/facilities/tactics and playing/being around better players/clubs would have had a bigger impact.
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It's something our club and especially our academy should be proud of. I don't know why you find this hard to swallow?

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SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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Adge said:
Not quite as laughable as saying that our academy is ultimately responsible for Wilson and Maddison playing for England.
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I didn’t say that. I said they were produced/provided by our academy which is a fact

Overachieved or underachieved?
 
Adge

Adge

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SlowerThanPlatt said:
I didn’t say that. I said they were produced/provided by our academy which is a fact

Overachieved or underachieved?
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Not sure what your point is? So has it been an underachieving up until this point then with Wilson and Maddison gaining England recognition as they are the first since Kirkland (IIRC)?
 
MusicDating

MusicDating

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Adge said:
Not sure what your point is? So has it been an underachieving up until this point then with Wilson and Maddison gaining England recognition as they are the first since Kirkland (IIRC)?
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So if our academy players play for us, they're dreadful and our academy is shite, if our academy players go on to play for England, it's nothing to do with our academy. You do see why you're ridiculed on here don't you?
 
SlowerThanPlatt

SlowerThanPlatt

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Adge said:
Not sure what your point is? So has it been an underachieving up until this point then with Wilson and Maddison gaining England recognition as they are the first since Kirkland (IIRC)?
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No I would say it was in the middle, neither underachieving or overachieving. Whatever your view on them it produced the likes of McSheffrey, Davenport and Turner who made over 100 appearances in the Premier League. And also netted the club vital funds

Clearly now it is up there with England and Europe’s most productive it is overachieving when we are a third tier club without a stadium of our own even if it hurts you to admit it
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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Adge said:
Paint that picture if you like and the old stats argument comes into play.
Counter that with how many others were damp squibs over the same term/years.
Yes they have both done well and as I said previously good luck to them.
Let’s not pretend though that our academy has rocketed them into the England team it’s just where it started for them.
Better coaching/facilities/tactics and playing/being around better players/clubs would have had a bigger impact.
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have a day off for fucks sake.
 
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