Match Thread Coventry City vs. Southampton U21 Match Thread - Tuesday 5th Nov (1 Viewer)

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CCFCSteve

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Irish Sky Blue said:
Don't agree with you on the other two players either. I think it's a shame to call anyone else "garbage". Jury is surely still out on Kastaneer as he hasn't had an extended run to prove himself. At the moment he is adding very little to the team but I still hope that that will change. Bakayoko shows glimpses of quality but doesn't produce this often enough to give any hope that he will be "the answer". I think he cares, I think he tries hard and therefore doesn't deserve the garbage label. Will he be here next season? Not unless there is a big improvement in the next few months.
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Exactly. Two 23 years olds, one of which has just moved to a new country/team !

Fact is both have scored great goals this season and shown glimpses of potential. Just hope the consistency comes
 
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DannyThomas_1981 said:
Just to add some balance cc84 I posted this yesterday on Baka:

'Right now Baka is our top goalscorer with 4 goals with an average strike rate of 168 minutes (I admittedly had to look that up!). Godden by comparison has 4 goals at 249 minutes per goal. That comparison is a little unfair perhaps on Godden as he's mainly played upfront on his own but he's also missed a number of great chances.

Should Baka have scored more? Yes. But equally Godden should have more as well. I don't see anything like the level of abuse aimed at Godden after we have underperformed and he has missed chances. What I would also say is that at least 2 of Baka's goals have been outstanding in terms of technique - and in particular the goal against Doncaster was different class and rescued us. So my own view is that he should get far more credit vs. some of the abusive comments I have seen on here. The new partnership with Max has looked decent to me.

It's a team game ultimately - my view is that we should stick by the lads who wear the shirt and also trust in Robins to evolve the team as required - he's pretty good at it. It's simply not helpful to abuse individual players when results haven't gone our way. Balanced criticism is of course justified but what 54321 has written (about Baka) is frankly a disgrace. I fully realise that's not a fashionable view.'
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Just so everyone gets the joke Danny Thomas 1981 is my dad!
 
harvey098

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rob9872 said:
You can all argue as much as you lije, but I was there again tonight and I'm sure yiu can appreciate the different perspective you get live. Max tonight was unplayable. Of course the standard of the opposition has to be taken account of, but his movement off the ball, winning his own flick ons, so much more tgan just the goals. If we can keep him fit, I'm certain he'll be a big player for us in the second half of the season. I think Hiwula or Godden will play well off him too.
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He’s been like that all season. He’s made the step up to league 1 look seamless. Impressed me far more than Godden or Baka.
 
skyblueelephant76

skyblueelephant76

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cc84cov said:
Sat here baffled as to who & why we give Kastanner a 3 YEAR CONTRACT !!!

Who makes these ludicrous decisions
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Biamou had also been completely written off at this stage in his first season.

Kast clearly has ability, he changed the Doncaster game when he came on and scored a great goal against Bristol.

He has been a disappointment so far but we sign players to develop and it's down to the coaches to try and turn the potential he has into a player. It's still far too early to write him off.
 
covcity4life

covcity4life

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only caught the second half ,worked out great!

our hatrick hero and in form striker is now suspended for 3 games lol

some quality finishes though! against any opposition i should add dont matter if liverpool or soton u21,thats a volley and a half

when is FG vs walsall?
 
cc84cov

cc84cov

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Can we not appeal this red ?

He’s made an attempt to win the ball the ball is there to be win it’s a lot different to head butting someone surely ?
 
cc84cov

cc84cov

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GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee said:
I don't think we'd stand a chance in an appeal. He led with an elbow. It was dangerous. Myself and everyone around me knew it was a red the moment he did it.
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I knew it was a red but surely if his eyes are on the ball it needs a second look ? The ball is in the air to be won 3 match ban is a little harsh for me,I would say the same if their player committed the same foul on our player.
 
oldskyblue58

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A positive result that keeps money coming in to the club. That is important
 
fatso

fatso

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Irish Sky Blue said:
I just don't understand the need for comments like this. Biamou scored a hat trick for our team tonight. Two of the goals are excellent strikes. Our team won. In less than two and a half league games he has played well, got two assists and scored an absolute screamer. But you and others like you can't seem to give him any credit or take pleasure in the fact that one of our players is doing well. It seems that you would rather that your negative narrative is proved correct and that the player and the team struggle rather than accept that even temporally you may have been wrong about the player and enjoy that relative success. It is a rarity for one of our players to score a hat trick but you greet it with a sneery comment. Shame!
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It’s blindingly obvious isn’t it?
If not, just go and check out Biamou’s strike rate at league level, vs his strike rate against u23 teams.
Then compare his league stats to those of Kevin Kyle (for example) who played at a higher level than Max, but was generally considered a very poor striker.
 
Irish Sky Blue

Irish Sky Blue

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fatso said:
It’s blindingly obvious isn’t it?
If not, just go and check out Biamou’s strike rate at league level, vs his strike rate against u23 teams.
Then compare his league stats to those of Kevin Kyle (for example) who played at a higher level than Max, but was generally considered a very poor striker.
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You've side stepped the issue. Max may go on to prove he is a failure at this level. In the context of last night and the preceding 3 league games your comments above are irrelevant. Max scored a hat trick last night and won the game for our team. A reason for any City fan to be pleased and to celebrate. In the previous 3 league games, one of which he came on as a half time sub, he played well, made two goals and scored an absolute belter. Reasons again for all City fans to celebrate and be pleased. You don't like Biamou so choose to make a sneery comment. It's almost as though you would want him and the team to fail just so you could say I told you so.
In the end, you might be right, he might not be good enough for this league. The difference between the two of us I would suggest to say is that you will be quite happy about that where as myself and most City fans I would think would be disappointed.
I don't think Bakayoko is a consistently good player at this level. I'm still pleased when he does well for the team. Surely that's how any City fan should feel about one of our players?
 
JimmyHillsbeard

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Last night Clive (I know, bear with me) said that Fadz’s yellow card ban wasn’t effective last night or on Saturday as this season bans relate only to the competition they are incurred in. If (again bear with me) Clive is right abt that, then surely Biamou is also eligible for the FA Cup on Saturday and will serve a ban for 3 league games. Personally I hope he was incorrect as I’d rather we had more options for the third league game.
 
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Nick

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JimmyHillsbeard said:
Last night Clive (I know, bear with me) said that Fadz’s yellow card ban wasn’t effective last night or on Saturday as this season bans relate only to the competition they are incurred in. If (again bear with me) Clive is right abt that, then surely Biamou is also eligible for the FA Cup on Saturday and will serve a ban for 3 league games. Personally I hope he was incorrect as I’d rather we had more options for the third league game.
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No because it's a red card it's different.
 
DannyThomas_1981

DannyThomas_1981

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fatso said:
It’s blindingly obvious isn’t it?
If not, just go and check out Biamou’s strike rate at league level, vs his strike rate against u23 teams.
Then compare his league stats to those of Kevin Kyle (for example) who played at a higher level than Max, but was generally considered a very poor striker.
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Kyle was another striker heavily targeted by the boo boys.

I blame Adams for that whole situation - from the outside it seemed that Kyle was a panic buy after the forced sale of McSheffrey and that little research or planning had been done. It was obvious from the start we had heavily overpaid, that Kyle did not suit the way we played and when Kyle didn't deliver in the early games - the boo boys jumped in and his confidence spiralled downwards.

Kyle was no world beater but you could equally argue that the team was not set up for his strengths. The personal abuse of Kyle did not do the player any favours and impacted the morale of the wider team - created a division with the fans. As others have said I will never truly understand the boo boy mentality and the minority of our fan base who seem determined/delighted that certain players actually fail for us.
 
Adge

Adge

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375 in attendance. Hats off to them people who went and to the 7 Southampton fans!:emoji_thumbsup:
 
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Adge said:
375 in attendance. Hats off to them people who went and to the 7 Southampton fans!:emoji_thumbsup:
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Must be a club record, if I wasn’t at work I would have watched at home but I would have done the same if it was at the Ricoh
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Southampton should refund those 7 fans costs. True fans (unless they’re U23 players families)
 
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Nick said:
Would have thought they would be families.
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Did they have lots of twins playing or did they play with a shortage of players as I am sure if I had made it as a pro my family would have watched every game certainly as a youngster seems strange to only have seven
 
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