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Marty

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No backbone in this country, should be a country wide boycott of Asda. Hit them where it really hurts.
 

Tommo1993

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Staff needed to stand together in solidarity and not sign. Can understand why a lot of them panic signed though, especially at this time of year.
 

skybluetony176

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Staff needed to stand together in solidarity and not sign. Can understand why a lot of them panic signed though, especially at this time of year.
That’s the shittiest thing about it. The timing. I’m sure it’s no accident that this is happening just as people are about to start planning for Christmas.
 

SBAndy

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Don’t know enough about the situation; have the non-signers now been dismissed? It’s actions like this that lead me to generally avoid supermarkets as much as possible and use local independent shops as much as I can. Granted, it works out more expensive but local community is something I value beyond money.
 

skybluetony176

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Don’t know enough about the situation; have the non-signers now been dismissed? It’s actions like this that lead me to generally avoid supermarkets as much as possible and use local independent shops as much as I can. Granted, it works out more expensive but local community is something I value beyond money.
They’ve been granted a weeks extension.
 

Gazolba

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I've never heard of this.
Does someone have a link explaining it?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

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We have different start and finish times everyday and we also have last minute start time changes so you can arrive at what you think is the start time and have to wait or have missed the start. It is a real pain in the arse if you follow the rules, I have a slightly different contract than most so can get away with a 6pm start each day but as I have a full time contract they can ring me in the day and say you need to go to Glasgow tonight or go to London for the next week.
 

rob9872

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These foreigners, coming over here taking our jobs...
I was very specific and chose my words carefully. There's enough of those type of threads on here so please dont twist them to imply something differently to what we both know I meant.
 

shmmeee

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Loving that most complaining on here are all anti brexit, yet if there weren't scores of European immigrants lined up take their jobs, this wouldn't be possible.

Two points:

1) Other EU countries manage to stop exploitation without leaving the EU. We could too.

2) Most post Brexit plans involve replacing Eastern European immigrants with Asian immigrants so won’t help anyway.
 

NorthernWisdom

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I was very specific and chose my words carefully. There's enough of those type of threads on here so please dont twist them to imply something differently to what we both know I meant.
If you chose your words carefully, trying to flip the argument to blame immigrants rather than focus on shoddy employment practices from the company is all the worse.
 

rob9872

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Two points:

1) Other EU countries manage to stop exploitation without leaving the EU. We could too.

2) Most post Brexit plans involve replacing Eastern European immigrants with Asian immigrants so won’t help anyway.
Not at the same rate. The population has risen by 10m since the turn of the century. Immigration is a good thing, all of the studies confirm that, but our services can't cope at those rates and everybody including the immigrants themselves suffer.
 

rob9872

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If you chose your words carefully, trying to flip the argument to blame immigrants rather than focus on shoddy employment practices from the company is all the worse.
Not remotely. I've not suggested they're not shoddy, but merely taking advantage of market forces. Forces that wouldn't be available if the mass immigration hadn't occurred.
 

skybluetony176

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Not remotely. I've not suggested they're not shoddy, but merely taking advantage of market forces. Forces that wouldn't be available if the mass immigration hadn't occurred.
That argument would almost stack up if it wasn’t for the fact that we’ve had a record low in unemployment for sometime meaning we’re as close to 100% employment as we’ve ever been. There isn’t a queue of a Johnny Foreigners outside of every ASDA store waiting for someone to get sacked let alone the majority of their workforce.
 

rob9872

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That argument would almost stack up if it wasn’t for the fact that we’ve had a record low in unemployment for sometime meaning we’re as close to 100% employment as we’ve ever been. There isn’t a queue of a Johnny Foreigners outside of every ASDA store waiting for someone to get sacked let alone the majority of their workforce.
Usually I have everyone telling me that the unemployment figures are a myth due to including zero hours and many others who aren't included in the numbers eg age related etc.I guess that doesn't suit this argument.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Not remotely. I've not suggested they're not shoddy, but merely taking advantage of market forces. Forces that wouldn't be available if the mass immigration hadn't occurred.

As you say business taking advantage of market forces. Higher population = more supply of labour = price competition and lower wages.

Quo bono? The businesses. Cheaper labour, higher profits.

Has it not occurred to you that maybe this desire to stop immigration from the EU and the rights and protections those workers are afforded is to replace them with other migrants from elsewhere such as Asia and Africa with even lower wages and without rights and protections attached?
 

rob9872

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As you say business taking advantage of market forces. Higher population = more supply of labour = price competition and lower wages.

Quo bono? The businesses. Cheaper labour, higher profits.

Has it not occurred to you that maybe this desire to stop immigration from the EU and the rights and protections those workers are afforded is to replace them with other migrants from elsewhere such as Asia and Africa with even lower wages and without rights and protections attached?
Not at the same rates. The doors that opened under the last Labour government to allow the population to swell so rapidly enabled it. You know this too, but are being purposely obtuse.
 

shmmeee

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Not at the same rate. The population has risen by 10m since the turn of the century. Immigration is a good thing, all of the studies confirm that, but our services can't cope at those rates and everybody including the immigrants themselves suffer.

Yes at the same rate. Business needs what it needs. See fruit picking.

I agree with you about Eastern European immigration BTW. I’ve seen the impact on people I know well.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Not at the same rates. The doors that opened under the last Labour government to allow the population to swell so rapidly enabled it. You know this too, but are being purposely obtuse.

It did have an effect and the official estimates were well off, possibly deliberately. Biggest error was failing to record and track, something which has been a fault of Lab, Tory and the coalition. This is the Brexit mistruths that annoy me - when people say we couldn't do anything due to EU rules when we could - we chose not to. Many other EU nations record migration.
 

oscillatewildly

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I was unaware of this story until now.
I have, however already got a ban on ASDA (my nearest supermarket) for more personal reasons.
This will just reinforce it. Along with my ban on Peugeot cars.
 

OffenhamSkyBlue

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any other bans/boycotts you've got going? (or anyone else for that matter)?
Marston's pubs (and beers as far as possible). My wife split from her first husband but they came after HER (and me, by association) for a loan they had made to the business. They also lied about having a contract regarding the loan of cellar equipment, and also increased it with interest, bailiff's fees, court costs, etc. All of which the court decided we didn't owe (my wife defended herself against their hot-shot London barrister).
Bunch of thieving bastards!
 

ajsccfc

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I boycott Bensons for Beds because we had one ordered to be delivered when we moved into our house, they turned up without the mattress and said 'ah right, do you need that today?' so we cancelled and went with Dreams who seemed to be staffed by competent people who don't dribble when talking.

Admittedly it's not much of a boycott because I've used a bed shop maybe twice in my life, but I will swear when their adverts come on so I'm giving them a bit of aggro over the karmic cosmos at least.
 

oscillatewildly

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Sofology - There's another that won't be getting my business again. Their lighting (or lack of it) in the Holyhead Road showroom threw me when making a choice.
I couldn't believe the shade of the suite when it arrived! Of course the rigmarole of exchanging incurred extra cost. (which I found myself bartering over)
If there's one thing I've learned from this experience, it's to make your choices concerning expensive furnishings from the front of the shop where there is at least a decent amount of natural light.
 

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