The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (10 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

SkyblueBazza

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He obviously did want that. He got outwitted by Parliament and is now desperate, that’s what the noises coming from both government and EU sources state.

For the record, the economic damage between No Deal and the Boris plan is negligible. It’s no deal in all but name really:

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Yeah & it say "estimates" in bold at the bottom. And because you want to believe it spells doom...so it has ceased to be "May's deal" & all of a sudden you have tagged Boris to it...you probably won't make ypur mind up absolutely until 2-5yrs post Brexit, but hey-ho...whatever suits.

It isn't the end yet either mind you...so he might have outwitted parliament besides yourself.

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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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So you can't refute any of this scaremongering with facts then?
Been the theme throughout this thread.
Your ability to blindly ignore hard evidence without any constructive counter argument is incredible.


Brexit is going to happen. I want a sound economic reason to embrace it. Tell me one backed by facts. Tell me why predictions of economic gloom are scaremongering?
Are you going to have a martcov meltdown and throw your toys out of the pram?
You need to lighten up.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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HAHA! Asking someone to explain something is having a meltdown! I think it's fair to summarise you don't actually have an answer which I find hilarious to be honest.
I'm glad you get some hilarity from it,I genuinely do. What will you do if we leave the EU in the next few months , get on with life or constantly pump out statistics on here ?
Scaremongering isn't something I have to provide evidence either for nor against. It's scaremongering pure and simple.
 
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shmmeee

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Yeah & it say "estimates" in bold at the bottom. And because you want to believe it spells doom...so it has ceased to be "May's deal" & all of a sudden you have tagged Boris to it...you probably won't make ypur mind up absolutely until 2-5yrs post Brexit, but hey-ho...whatever suits.

It isn't the end yet either mind you...so he might have outwitted parliament besides yourself.

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Mate. You’re grasping at straws. Yes it’s an estimate. Unless you’re about to bust out your patent pending revolutionary economic model to make a better prediction it’s the best we’ve got.

As for Mays deal can Boris’, I thought there wasn’t much change. As I posted earlier I was wrong, Boris’ plan is far far worse.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
I'm glad you get some hilarity from it,I genuinely do. What will you do if we leave the EU in the next few months , get on with life or constantly pump out statistics on here ?
Scaremongering isn't something I have to provide evidence either for nor against. It's scaremongering pure and simple.

HAHA!! Brilliant!
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
I'm glad you get some hilarity from it,I genuinely do. What will you do if we leave the EU in the next few months , get on with life or constantly pump out statistics on here ?
Scaremongering isn't something I have to provide evidence either for nor against. It's scaremongering pure and simple.

Economic downturn isn’t the end of the world. It just makes everyone’s life a little bit shitter. Fewer jobs, lower pay, higher living costs, less public services.

We’re just asking for one benefit that might start to outweigh all of that. And let’s be honest, you haven’t got one. Because it’s an exercise in faith like religion.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

Well-Known Member
Economic downturn isn’t the end of the world. It just makes everyone’s life a little bit shitter. Fewer jobs, lower pay, higher living costs, less public services.

We’re just asking for one benefit that might start to outweigh all of that. And let’s be honest, you haven’t got one. Because it’s an exercise in faith like religion.
And how long is your economic downturn likely to last ? What are all your so called experts telling you ? 10 years at least I suspect.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
Blue Passports.
Bendy Bananas.
I'm sure there was some mention regarding Kippers too.

IIRC the kippers was Boris trying to blame the EU for something that was actually controlled by our sovereign government and he could seek to change at any time should he wish to take it up through our sovereign parliament.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
“Your economic downturn”? Are we to assume that you don’t reside in the U.K.?

Obviously True Brexit Believers will be exempt from any consequences because they have proven their worth through sufficient Belief In Brexit.

I notice he didn’t manage to find a single upside to Brexit yet. Anyone want to help him out?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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So, the keenness of extreme Brexiteers to keep NoDeal on the table
(1) has no effect on EU negotiations (because it doesn't adjust the incentives in the ways it is sometimes pretended it does); and
(2) it has a substantial and damaging and long-term, mostly-irreversible negative impact on an industry that employs a staggering 0.8million people in the UK, with many businesses already wholly relocated, and a huge proportion diverting investment elsewhere.

The impact will, I guess, fall mostly in the Midlands and the North.

It should be said that most Brexit deals (except those that preserve the Customs Union & Single Market membership) are pretty severely damaging too, because documentation and standards alignment are as great, if not greater, issues than tariffs (and that's assuming that tariffs could be negotiated low).

One-third of car firms have cut jobs amid Brexit uncertainty

obviously more fake evidence based news
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
Would still like to know what they are, and how they choose to model such benefits so far into the future.

Its bullshit for the faithful. Tories like him, who normally would never be looked at twice by working class voters, have suddenly been handed a blank cheque because they say things they like in a posh accent.

Mogg knows it’ll fuck the country, he’s counting on it to make himself stacks of cash. He also knows that he’s cultivated a following that is actively suspicious of informed people and only believe the high priests of Brexit.

As I said, handing a blank cheque to politicians because you agree with one policy is a very very dangerous game.
 

Sick Boy

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IIRC the kippers was Boris trying to blame the EU for something that was actually controlled by our sovereign government and he could seek to change at any time should he wish to take it up through our sovereign parliament.

As was the blue passports myth when there was nothing stopping the UK from having them.
 

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