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"When they don't score, they hardly ever win" - Michael Owen, pundit genius.

Woeful, whoever is coaching them needs a telling

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

Out of curiosity I decided to go through and take our shooting stats from the last 5 games and put them together. It's fair to say there is a bit of a problem.

Coventry vs Tranmere: 19 shots, 1 shot on target, no goals.
Rotherham vs Coventry: 13 shots, 2 shots on target, no goals.
Coventry vs Doncaster: 23 shots, 5 shots on target, 1 goal
Coventry vs AFC Wimbledon: 10 shots, 4 shots on target, 2 goals.
Burton Albion vs Coventry: 14 shots, 7 shots on target, no goals.

So in total across our last five games we have scored 3 goals. In that time we have had 79 shots. Out of 79 shots only 19 were on target. That's currently producing a 3.8% chance of scoring a goal when we shoot.

Against Bolton (where many were quick to blame the ref) we had 24 shots. 7 were on target. 0 goals.

Mr Robins, you may want to have a look at this darling.

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Just out of interest, how'd you come to that calculation? Surely it should be 19 shots on target divided by 79 shots = 24% chance of scoring?

SkyBlueDom26 said:

Woeful, whoever is coaching them needs a telling

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Marosi was quoted as saying MR was banging the goals in against him in training...

ccfc92 said:

Marosi was quoted as saying MR was banging the goals in against him in training...

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Maybe he can become a player manager :smuggrin::smuggrin::smuggrin:

SkyBlueDom26 said:

Woeful, whoever is coaching them needs a telling

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You can't blame coaching for fundamentally poor finishing. Hiwula in particular needs to sort his head out and just put the chances away.

I bet Hiwula and Godden are smashing them in from all angles in training wherever the pressure is off.

ccfc92 said:

Just out of interest, how'd you come to that calculation? Surely it should be 19 shots on target divided by 79 shots = 24% chance of scoring?

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I suppose it should, with the 3.8% being the conversion rate.

fellatio_Martinez said:

You can't blame coaching for fundamentally poor finishing. Hiwula in particular needs to sort his head out and just put the chances away.

I bet Hiwula and Godden are smashing them in from all angles in training wherever the pressure is off.

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Isn't that what training is for? Can we say we can't blame the coaching for passing going astray? Or for goalkeeping errors? Or poor free-kicks and corners? In fact, is there any point in them training at all?

Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:

Apologies, the wording was slightly off. The calculation was 3 goals out of 79 shots. The 3.8% chance of scoring is still correct.

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I'd say a 3.8% conversion rate, with a 24% chance of scoring. Which still backs up your point, we are very poor in front of goal.

ccfc92 said:

Marosi was quoted as saying MR was banging the goals in against him in training...

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All very well, but he's not playing. What about Godden, Hiwula, Baka, Biamou etc - they're the ones that matter.

fellatio_Martinez said:

You can't blame coaching for fundamentally poor finishing. Hiwula in particular needs to sort his head out and just put the chances away.

I bet Hiwula and Godden are smashing them in from all angles in training wherever the pressure is off.

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Going off yesterdays display i highly doubt that, hopefully they can get some goals Sat

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

All very well, but he's not playing. What about Godden, Hiwula, Baka, Biamou etc - they're the ones that matter.

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Maybe Godden should put down the mortgage advisor books and spend a bit of extra time having shooting practice... :facepalm:

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

Isn't that what training is for? Can we say we can't blame the coaching for passing going astray? Or for goalkeeping errors? Or poor free-kicks and corners? In fact, is there any point in them training at all?

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So you think that Mark Robins, who was a striker, doesn’t train his forwards well in shooting practice?

Fuck me I've read some shit on here in my time but this just might take the biscuit.

Stats are interesting, but the quality of the strike more important imo.

Take yesterday, our shot on target was a terrible tame free kick, yet i was out of my seat 4 times not for that one, but for two headers, a penalty appeal and the one which hit the post, none of which are counted as on target.

Footcharts - Shots on Target suggests that it's not our 'Shots on target' that's the problem.

I don’t see how at the age the strikers are 25+ etc how coaching shooting is any benefit they are either clinical or their not by that age

If players in other positions on the pitch weren’t performing they’d be dropped. Robins does seem to be willing to stick with his strikers. He did with McNulty and it paid off. I’m hoping that happens again this season with Hiwula and Godden but it is becoming very frustrating

Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:

Isn't that what training is for? Can we say we can't blame the coaching for passing going astray? Or for goalkeeping errors? Or poor free-kicks and corners? In fact, is there any point in them training at all?

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Excellent point.
For training to be of any use it has to simulate real game situations.
The goal is 8 yards wide (24 feet), it's not a difficult thing to hit.

sw88 said:

If players in other positions on the pitch weren’t performing they’d be dropped. Robins does seem to be willing to stick with his strikers. He did with McNulty and it paid off. I’m hoping that happens again this season with Hiwula and Godden but it is becoming very frustrating

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It didn't pay off with Chaplin.
I've given up on Hiwula. Godden may improve but it's not looking good so far.
Robins needs to get Ponticelli out of Tranmere where he can't get any minutes (even when Tranmere are losing, they won't bring him off the bench), and get him at a club that will play him, so at least we have another option waiting in the wings.

We should have signed Eisa, been quality the last 2 seasons

SkyBlueDom26 said:

We should have signed Eisa, been quality the last 2 seasons

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I heard we was in for him last season mate but deal broke down at the last minute,he didn’t do sod all in the champ but is scoring At Peterborough who create plenty something we don’t do they play him in a 41212 with Ivan Toney up front.

cc84cov said:

I heard we was in for him last season mate but deal broke down at the last minute,he didn’t do sod all in the champ but is scoring At Peterborough who create plenty something we don’t do they play him in a 41212 with Ivan Toney up front.

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Their attacking force is scary, have some real quality up front with Madison as the number 10

SkyBlueDom26 said:

There attacking force is scary, have some real quality up front with Madison as the number 10

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Something we could do with another striker & O’Hare at 10 mate

cc84cov said:

Something we could do with another striker & O’Hare at 10 mate

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Max godden and O hare id go for

SkyBlueDom26 said:

Max godden and O hare id go for

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We have to change something who’s going to play wide right next to Godden ? We don’t have a fit right inside forward/winger at the club & our left sided couldn’t score in a brothel but no doubt we will persist with the 433

fellatio_Martinez said:

So you think that Mark Robins, who was a striker, doesn’t train his forwards well in shooting practice?

Fuck me I've read some shit on here in my time but this just might take the biscuit.

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Sometimes people that are good at something naturally aren't the best teachers because they don't fully understand what it is they're doing differently. It just happens naturally for them.

That's why so many of the top managers and coaches weren't absolutely top class players - it didn't come naturally to them so they had to learn how to do it hence why they're better at teaching others how to do it.

Bollocks! I thought this was a gangster thread!

Let's try Hyam up front. He has 100% scoring rate per shot

cc84cov said:

We have to change something who’s going to play wide right next to Godden ? We don’t have a fit right inside forward/winger at the club & our left sided couldn’t score in a brothel but no doubt we will persist with the 433

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If we go 442 who plays wide? What would your preferred formation and line up be?

Skybluefaz said:

If we go 442 who plays wide? What would your preferred formation and line up be?

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4312

Marosi
Dabo hyam rose mason
Walsh Kelly Shipley
O’Hare
Godden or Hiwula/Biamou

We don’t have the players to play with width we haven’t all season Jobello for me wasn’t upto it & we’ve seen what we have been getting from Hiwula from the left we seem to have put all our eggs in one basket in 433 with no players fit to cover both sides if we got any injuries (Jobello) or if anyone dipped in form (Hiwula),Godden had successful season last year playing in a 2 weve done what we done with Chaplin gone against that & used him on his own the wide players have offered him sod all in support.We hindered O’Hares influence pushing him wide right Sunday he looks the perfect number 10.We don’t even have a plan B which we change to a 2 upfront in games so I can’t see how we use it from the start of games so I’m wasting my time even thinking about it we bring on strikers when we are behind like Baka and put him wide left in the 433 we did the same with Biamou at Bolton.

Gazolba said:

It didn't pay off with Chaplin.
I've given up on Hiwula. Godden may improve but it's not looking good so far.
Robins needs to get Ponticelli out of Tranmere where he can't get any minutes (even when Tranmere are losing, they won't bring him off the bench), and get him at a club that will play him, so at least we have another option waiting in the wings.

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Was never gonna pay off with Chaplin Pompey fans all told us he needs a partner to play off we tried to turn him into a number 10 or upfront on his own all 5ft of him.

The annoying thing for me is Hiwula, he misses gilt edge chances and should easily be up there as one of the leading scorers in the league so we are creating and he atleast is getting into good positions to score so the tactic is basically working, it’s obviously the final product not happening. Apart from a fit again Jodie Jones I don’t as we are currently see who can fill that role, O’Hare perhaps but he would be a loss in midfield at the moment, get Jamie Allen fit and Kelly back perhaps that could work.

Just looked at that stats website - found some interesting comparison
Peterborough:
shots: 171
On Target 73 (43% total shots)
Goals 28 (38% of shots on target)

ipswich
Shots: 146
On target: 60 41%
Goals: 21 - 35%

us
Shots: 166
On target: 58- 35%
Goals: 16 - 28%

Suggests we’re around 10% down on the league leaders and top scorers.

we’re letting ourselves down big style - of course this isn’t showing how the shots are coming, we have a number of tame free kicks on target - love to see the clear chances to goals stat