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Sky_Blue_Daz

Sky_Blue_Daz

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Otis said:
Be a bigger laugh if a carnivorous sausage roll was just a whole pig wrapped in pastry.

Or if a dick in a spotted dick was an actual dick.

At least I know my spinach is spinach and not horse meat masquerading as sirloin steak.
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Well I’m staying away from coq au vin
 
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greys4life

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Been vegie for 30+ years, it is so much easier now with soya protein, quorn etc. Had some 'scampi' last night and have had fishless fingers before - mind you it all tastes of tartar sauce by the time I've finished ladling it on.

Used to work in Egypt where one of the chefs told me the chicken soup was not meat because it was soup! Also had to check with the staff in Wetherspoons that the sausage was actually veggie it was just too meaty for me and I couldn't eat it.
 
Otis

Otis

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greys4life said:
Been vegie for 30+ years, it is so much easier now with soya protein, quorn etc. Had some 'scampi' last night and have had fishless fingers before - mind you it all tastes of tartar sauce by the time I've finished ladling it on.

Used to work in Egypt where one of the chefs told me the chicken soup was not meat because it was soup! Also had to check with the staff in Wetherspoons that the sausage was actually veggie it was just too meaty for me and I couldn't eat it.
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Yeah, my wife uses the same excuse with me.
 
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greys4life

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greys4life said:
Been vegie for 30+ years, it is so much easier now with soya protein, quorn etc. Had some 'scampi' last night and have had fishless fingers before - mind you it all tastes of tartar sauce by the time I've finished ladling it on.

Used to work in Egypt where one of the chefs told me the chicken soup was not meat because it was soup! Also had to check with the staff in Wetherspoons that the sausage was actually veggie it was just too meaty for me and I couldn't eat it.
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Not sure if you mean the too meaty to eat or the fishless fingers!

Lentil dhal tonight bloody lovely.
 
Otis

Otis

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Hard to articulate it, but it's 'Fa la (A as in lads) fells'. She also says petty poise for peas.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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There’s an interesting film coming out about plant based diets and sport later in the year. Not sure how widely it’s going to be distributed but it’s certainly food for thought

 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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skybluetony176 said:
There’s an interesting film coming out about plant based diets and sport later in the year. Not sure how widely it’s going to be distributed but it’s certainly food for thought

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Watched this last night. Really really interesting film and an eye opener. Not even necessarily the facts behind the health benefits of a plant based diets but how the meat and dairy industry has used the same tactics, research and marketing companies that told us that smoking is good for you.
 
SBAndy

SBAndy

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skybluetony176 said:
Watched this last night. Really really interesting film and an eye opener. Not even necessarily the facts behind the health benefits of a plant based diets but how the meat and dairy industry has used the same tactics, research and marketing companies that told us that smoking is good for you.
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Where can I find it?
 
Covstu

Covstu

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skybluetony176 said:
Watched this last night. Really really interesting film and an eye opener. Not even necessarily the facts behind the health benefits of a plant based diets but how the meat and dairy industry has used the same tactics, research and marketing companies that told us that smoking is good for you.
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What’s it on Tony? I would be interested, I must admit that most of my diet is based on meat as I enjoy eating it but if there was a sustainable alternative that doesn’t cost the earth (excuse the pun) then I would consider switching. Okay films like this also work on the extreme with top athletes who have time and unlimited support to achieve greatness but would be interested to see how this affected the common man like the fire fighter shown on the clip
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Covstu said:
What’s it on Tony? I would be interested, I must admit that most of my diet is based on meat as I enjoy eating it but if there was a sustainable alternative that doesn’t cost the earth (excuse the pun) then I would consider switching. Okay films like this also work on the extreme with top athletes who have time and unlimited support to achieve greatness but would be interested to see how this affected the common man like the fire fighter shown on the clip
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It’s still on in cinemas but limited release. I watched it in Coventry last night but I think it was the only date in Coventry.

Interesting that you mention athletes, I’m amazed that all athletes aren’t on plant based diets. It’s certainly catching on but there’s some early examples that the lessons should have been learned from like Carl Lewis who apparently recorded all his PB’s after turning 30 and converting to a plant based diet. The guy who unexpectedly beat Connor McGregor after stepping in at 11days notice is a vegan and McGregor was making light of this during the press conference with references like are you sure you have the energy to fight me etc and then conceded after the fight that he had simply ran out of energy whereas the vegan still had plenty.

It goes heavily into the science and explains that the animals we eat are just a middleman, the so called goodness we get from them they get from plants they eat. The meat and dairy industry are climbing all over vitamin B12 at the moment claiming you need to eat meat and dairy to get it, it actually comes from the ground which is where livestock get it from, we used to get it from foraging for food and drinking directly from streams. The myth is that you can get all your B12 from meat. You can’t, meat eaters are still in a need of B12 and should take a supplement to get it just like people on plant based diets.

It’s easier than you think to get on a plant based diet, it’s all about making the transition and learning. You don’t need to do it all in one day. They cover some work with the NYFD as the biggest killer of Firemen on the job in the US is heart attack. They measured the cholesterol of firefighters from one house and they all had high cholesterol, one of the worst guys was also probably the skinniest guy in the house, they put them all on a plant based diet for a week and it was incredible how much their cholesterol dropped and all that had seriously high cholesterol were now somewhere near normal. Then they had other benefits such as weight loss, gains in energy etc.
 
shmmeee

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skybluetony176 said:
It’s still on in cinemas but limited release. I watched it in Coventry last night but I think it was the only date in Coventry.

Interesting that you mention athletes, I’m amazed that all athletes aren’t on plant based diets. It’s certainly catching on but there’s some early examples that the lessons should have been learned from like Carl Lewis who apparently recorded all his PB’s after turning 30 and converting to a plant based diet. The guy who unexpectedly beat Connor McGregor after stepping in at 11days notice is a vegan and McGregor was making light of this during the press conference with references like are you sure you have the energy to fight me etc and then conceded after the fight that he had simply ran out of energy whereas the vegan still had plenty.

It goes heavily into the science and explains that the animals we eat are just a middleman, the so called goodness we get from them they get from plants they eat. The meat and dairy industry are climbing all over vitamin B12 at the moment claiming you need to eat meat and dairy to get it, it actually comes from the ground which is where livestock get it from, we used to get it from foraging for food and drinking directly from streams. The myth is that you can get all your B12 from meat. You can’t, meat eaters are still in a need of B12 and should take a supplement to get it just like people on plant based diets.

It’s easier than you think to get on a plant based diet, it’s all about making the transition and learning. You don’t need to do it all in one day. They cover some work with the NYFD as the biggest killer of Firemen on the job in the US is heart attack. They measured the cholesterol of firefighters from one house and they all had high cholesterol, one of the worst guys was also probably the skinniest guy in the house, they put them all on a plant based diet for a week and it was incredible how much their cholesterol dropped and all that had seriously high cholesterol were now somewhere near normal. Then they had other benefits such as weight loss, gains in energy etc.
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I’m sold. What’s a good place to start with veggie recipes?
 
covcity4life

covcity4life

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saw some activisits in london 2 months ago and had a chat with 1 of them

some of the horrific stuff that goes on in dairy and meat industry is pretty sickening to be fair, i hope one day i have the drive to go vegan from a spiritual pov
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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shmmeee said:
I’m sold. What’s a good place to start with veggie recipes?
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Bosh and Vegan on the go are two really good books to start with. I’ve had buffalo cauliflower with new potatoes and salad tonight, seriously yummy. Link for recipes covered in the film. Sadly not one for the Mac and no cheese an American footballers wife made for him and team mates, it’s all I’ve been thinking about today.

The Game Changers Movie
 
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Covstu

Covstu

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skybluetony176 said:
It’s still on in cinemas but limited release. I watched it in Coventry last night but I think it was the only date in Coventry.

Interesting that you mention athletes, I’m amazed that all athletes aren’t on plant based diets. It’s certainly catching on but there’s some early examples that the lessons should have been learned from like Carl Lewis who apparently recorded all his PB’s after turning 30 and converting to a plant based diet. The guy who unexpectedly beat Connor McGregor after stepping in at 11days notice is a vegan and McGregor was making light of this during the press conference with references like are you sure you have the energy to fight me etc and then conceded after the fight that he had simply ran out of energy whereas the vegan still had plenty.

It goes heavily into the science and explains that the animals we eat are just a middleman, the so called goodness we get from them they get from plants they eat. The meat and dairy industry are climbing all over vitamin B12 at the moment claiming you need to eat meat and dairy to get it, it actually comes from the ground which is where livestock get it from, we used to get it from foraging for food and drinking directly from streams. The myth is that you can get all your B12 from meat. You can’t, meat eaters are still in a need of B12 and should take a supplement to get it just like people on plant based diets.

It’s easier than you think to get on a plant based diet, it’s all about making the transition and learning. You don’t need to do it all in one day. They cover some work with the NYFD as the biggest killer of Firemen on the job in the US is heart attack. They measured the cholesterol of firefighters from one house and they all had high cholesterol, one of the worst guys was also probably the skinniest guy in the house, they put them all on a plant based diet for a week and it was incredible how much their cholesterol dropped and all that had seriously high cholesterol were now somewhere near normal. Then they had other benefits such as weight loss, gains in energy etc.
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Sounds really interesting to be fair, I think my issue is time but I think you need to devote a bit of effort into it. Personally not a big veg lover so I guess step 1 would be cutting out meat and having a suitable replacement I.e quorn. Simple switch might help initially and the wife is a veggie anyway but I think cutting out diary might be a challenge too far
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Covstu said:
Sounds really interesting to be fair, I think my issue is time but I think you need to devote a bit of effort into it. Personally not a big veg lover so I guess step 1 would be cutting out meat and having a suitable replacement I.e quorn. Simple switch might help initially and the wife is a veggie anyway but I think cutting out diary might be a challenge too far
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Tempeh makes a really good meat substitute. Especially in Spaghetti Bologna’s and chilli. We moved away from quorn mince quite quickly, in a chilli we just fill it full of different types of beans and lentils.
 
Covstu

Covstu

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skybluetony176 said:
Tempeh makes a really good meat substitute. Especially in Spaghetti Bologna’s and chilli. We moved away from quorn mince quite quickly, in a chilli we just fill it full of different types of beans and lentils.
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Never heard of it, I thought it was a mattress!
 
Alkhen

Alkhen

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Been a Veggie for about a year now. Thought I'd struggle more than I did making the change.

So much easier to make the switch nowadays. Loads of options in normal supermarkets, you don't feel like you are missing out or having to make too much effort. I remember my sister going Veggie as a teenager in the late 80s early 90s. Her school dinner was exactly the same as everyone else's but with the meat element being replaced by a handful of grated cheese! I highly doubt it was veggie cheese either.

One of my best finds is the Vivera kebab meat. So nice, great texture and flavor without the gristle. Couple of pittas, salad, garlic mayo and hot chilli sauce. Better than from the takeaway.
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CCFCSteve

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skybluetony176 said:
Watched this last night. Really really interesting film and an eye opener. Not even necessarily the facts behind the health benefits of a plant based diets but how the meat and dairy industry has used the same tactics, research and marketing companies that told us that smoking is good for you.
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I’ll have to watch this. I read a book that sounds like it covers similar aspects as the film called The China Study. Interesting stuff

I don’t think I could ever cut out meat/dairy totally but reckon I have halved my intake in the last few months

Ps a couple of the ‘impossible burgers’ are very good. It will be interesting to see how the impossible whopper does
 
SBAndy

SBAndy

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Alkhen said:
Been a Veggie for about a year now. Thought I'd struggle more than I did making the change.

So much easier to make the switch nowadays. Loads of options in normal supermarkets, you don't feel like you are missing out or having to make too much effort. I remember my sister going Veggie as a teenager in the late 80s early 90s. Her school dinner was exactly the same as everyone else's but with the meat element being replaced by a handful of grated cheese! I highly doubt it was veggie cheese either.

One of my best finds is the Vivera kebab meat. So nice, great texture and flavor without the gristle. Couple of pittas, salad, garlic mayo and hot chilli sauce. Better than from the takeaway.
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See, I don’t think I’d particularly struggle myself (aside from the fact that I bloody love a steak) but my other half is rather fussy when it comes to veg.
 
Alkhen

Alkhen

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SBAndy said:
See, I don’t think I’d particularly struggle myself (aside from the fact that I bloody love a steak) but my other half is rather fussy when it comes to veg.
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Steak is definitely the thing that I miss as a treat meal. Was always my go to option when eating out or having a celebration meal. Tried a few veggie steaks and it's no where near.

I'm sure they will crack it at some point

Vegetarian doesn't = healthy. Cutting dairy out deffo helps that. But veggies can still eat tonnes of junk. Chips, pizza still on the menu. It not all broccoli and mung beans :)

I'm lucky enough that my wife worked in a Vegan cafe/restaurant for a few years and is a great cook. Spoiled really
 
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