Coventry supprters club (1 Viewer)

clint van damme said:

I know it's semantics but it's not groups it's just one group.
The Leamington, Bedworth, southam groups etc seem to be sticking to their apolitical ethos and are open to all.

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Great point. On a completely separate note, many of your group going tomorrow night ?, cant understand this whole, it’s a Tuesday and will be hard to get to. Proves the point if your members are going to it

The misspelling of supporters in the title is really irking me

torchomatic said:

Only from a few on Twitter and Facebook. Most won't give a fuck. I don't care if Moz gets into the Club or not. I can sympathise with the new Supporters Club as Moz has been in charge of the biggest, most divisive Trust and at the end of the day, they let in who they want to.

Some fans frothing at the mouth as if Moz is something special. He's not, he's no more special than any other Coventry City fan. Doesn't every club "reserve the right to refuse membership". Nothing to see here. Roll on the Wimbledon game.

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Tbh I couldn't give a fuck who they let in either. It's just pathetic and divisive in my opinion. It's like being back at school.

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covmark said:

Tbh I couldn't give a fuck who they let in either. It's just pathetic and divisive in my opinion. It's like being back at school.

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This is simply a spat between Frank and Moz which Moz has decided to make an issue of and now has Simon Gilbert on the case

As I’ve pointed out to Simon his only piece of investigative journalism was when he looked at my LinkedIn account. However, even that was hardly investigative as Dave Johnson has viewed it the day before along with someone who at least had the brain to block it. Oddly then I had some abuse from Tim Kalns parody account a few minutes after that - Simon really is a genius

torchomatic said:

Only from a few on Twitter and Facebook. Most won't give a fuck. I don't care if Moz gets into the Club or not. I can sympathise with the new Supporters Club as Moz has been in charge of the biggest, most divisive Trust and at the end of the day, they let in who they want to.

Some fans frothing at the mouth as if Moz is something special. He's not, he's no more special than any other Coventry City fan. Doesn't every club "reserve the right to refuse membership". Nothing to see here. Roll on the Wimbledon game.

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That's just the point. He is no one special. Just a City fan. Therefore, why make a special case and ban him?

Irish Sky Blue said:

That

That's just the point. He is no one special. Just a City fan. Therefore, why make a special case and ban him?

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You'd need to ask them.

Irish Sky Blue said:

That

That's just the point. He is no one special. Just a City fan. Therefore, why make a special case and ban him?

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Because he chose to align the organisation with individuals who were the opposite. If I headed it up I wouldn’t have let Kalns through the door

Grendel said:

Because he chose to align the organisation with individuals who were the opposite. If I headed it up I wouldn’t have let Kalns through the door

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He chose? I thought board members were elected. All beside the point now as he is not on the board.(Even if he was, I don’t see that as a reason to ban him).

Grendel said:

Because he chose to align the organisation with individuals who were the opposite. If I headed it up I wouldn’t have let Kalns through the door

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And I'd agree with that. But that's why you or I didnt set it up or claim it to be non political.

Irish Sky Blue said:

He chose? I thought board members were elected. All beside the point now as he is not on the board.(Even if he was, I don’t see that as a reason to ban him).

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It’s not beside the point. He sat on a board with a known anti ccfc board member who used twitter to abuse and ridicule anyone who said anything positive about the club and increased division. He did nothing to stop it. So what does he really expect? Now he’s making it out to be s big issue. It isn’t he can go and join another supporters club

After doing some thinking I've come to the conclusion that I am infact wrong to side with this, less division more unity.. We are all sky blue

What done it for me is the amount of people I didn't know who were involved in the trust that are infact good people and huge fans that I actually have a good relationship with at the football.. Didnt realise tbh.

Re. Moz - was that the reason he left/was kicked off? Conflict with the other board execs?

Evo1883 said:

After doing some thinking I've come to the conclusion that I am infact wrong to side with this, less division more unity.. We are all sky blue.....

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It's a shame all these groups can't put aside oneupmanship and pull in one direction, for the benefit of the club. Bit like poo pooing the views of SBTalk members on that poll. Or dissing the Facebook forum, OK its pretty anarchic on there but they are supposedly fans.

Grendel said:

Yep that’s the one

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It would be helpful for a list of who's who on that thing, or a list of who to follow that actually runs fan groups or is on the Trust board etc. I didn't know kissmefrankie and RFC are the same people, and equally surprised kissmefrankiebaby thought I was a product of your imagination...thought I'd made a least a dent on RFC's memory!

ccfctommy said:

Yes. Why not?

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Think it would have been better handled in private. Irrespective of what anyone thinks of the original decision there was no need for Moz to go public with it. He's not naive and would be aware what would follow.

Personally would have just contacted them directly and expressed disappointment, maybe offer to meet up at a game and discuss over a beer or see if it can be revisited in a few months.

Grendel said:

Keeping it in perspective now.

Fred west can join the supporters club it seems but not Moz

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Fuck me you don't have to report every single tweet on here. Yawn.

Who's moz who's frank what's what Idk much bout supporter clubs gimme dat gossip ty

So it’s a joke of a supporters club ran by that Frank c**t on Twitter.

SkyBluesTrust retweeting everyone who's tweeting Moz falling over themselves to tell him how much of a top bloke he is, number one city fan, basically bigger than the club etc.

Nice little ego trip

The Leamington supporter club seems the best. Sponsor some boots and kit, arrange a minibus, have a player or two over for a chat, avoid all the nonsense.

I was blocked by them on Twitter the other day which I thought was a bit strange as the only interaction I’d had with them was asking how I can join and encouraging others to do so. I find it very petty that they’re not allowing any current or former SBT board members to join or revoking the membership of those that have. Especially considering some of those that are now banned have put a considerable amount of their own time in to help the JSBs on match days. Others such as Kev Monks and Gary Stubbs are some of the loyalist fans around.

I thought politics would be left at the door and quite frankly I and others were looking forward to that aspect of it. I also do find it a bit sad that they’ve also banned the great great grandson of the the bloke that founded the Supporters Club in the first place for no apparent reasonable reason.

ajsccfc said:

The Leamington supporter club seems the best. Sponsor some boots and kit, arrange a minibus, have a player or two over for a chat, avoid all the nonsense.

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Don't like the idea of saying we are the best (although it is!) What it has is a sensible model, and is only interested in supporting the team. Sponsoring a few home games this season too.

All seems a bit OTT.

Who is that Rob Foster chap on Twitter? Asking someone to prove who they are otherwise he'll assume they aren't "legitimate" Christ. What does that even mean? Legitimate what? City fan?

Seems a bit much on both sides really!

Seems to be a real shame when a supporters club sets up a club for the supporters, for the supporters, something that allows access to players, raises funds for good causes and some enjoyable conversations on games, goals, rubbish games, history etc to limit who and who is not a supporter worthy of being a member.

I understand they may not want the owners joining, but what next, DBS checks as there will be children in the room?

One of the fundamental reasons football is better than other sports is banter, difference of opinion and the ability to then discuss, argue and disagree but all enjoy it and still feel that you are right, Regardless of what you think about the trust and what they have achieved or stance taken, they have tried to do something, we all have different views on the success.

I’m not so pompous to think my view is better or I’m a better fan thank anyone else or better than the trust members or supporters club boards.
I’m just a fan, they are all the same as each and everyone of us and therefore, we should all be treated equally and with respect that I would afford all of you and I would expect you would afford me.

Real own goal for something that I thought was going to be a real positive for Coventry similar to the other supporter groups set up, I would hastily rethink and welcome all, after all, we need all the fans we can get, whether they go every week or turn up every year we make Wembley, every one of them has sky blue blood running in their body.

clint van damme said:

They've just confirmed they will not accept membership from any current or previous trust members.

This should be fun!

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Pathetic that, really. How far back are they going anyway? Didn't the likes of Kev Monks used to be on the Trust board?

Grendel said:

This is simply a spat between Frank and Moz which Moz has decided to make an issue of and now has Simon Gilbert on the case

As I’ve pointed out to Simon his only piece of investigative journalism was when he looked at my LinkedIn account. However, even that was hardly investigative as Dave Johnson has viewed it the day before along with someone who at least had the brain to block it. Oddly then I had some abuse from Tim Kalns parody account a few minutes after that - Simon really is a genius

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They're a bit late with finding it! If they had more of a brain, they'd check out the general detail without logging in, so then you'd never know they'd checked it

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:

I understand they may not want the owners joining

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RFC would probably be all for the owners joining

we made our decision to maintain our status as non political and when we see certain ex trust members planning anti owner and club protests at the ricoh arena wasps first game , we made the right decision to distant ourselves from these people at a very precarious time with negotiations ongoing for our return .

Comment by rob foster on the groups page on Facebook.

SkyBlueZack said:

we made our decision to maintain our status as non political and when we see certain ex trust members planning anti owner and club protests at the ricoh arena wasps first game , we made the right decision to distant ourselves from these people at a very precarious time with negotiations ongoing for our return .

Comment by rob foster on the groups page on Facebook.

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Utterly pathetic.

I assume this is the thing Joy wanted setting up “with no politics”? When will she learn?

There’s only one thing for it. We’re all going to have to move to leamington.

SkyBlueZack said:

we made our decision to maintain our status as non political and when we see certain ex trust members planning anti owner and club protests at the ricoh arena wasps first game , we made the right decision to distant ourselves from these people at a very precarious time with negotiations ongoing for our return .

Comment by rob foster on the groups page on Facebook.

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SkyBlueZack, I haven't responded to a post for a long time on here because I believe the guy that runs it is not somebody I agree with, however I would defend his right to have his opinion and who knows maybe the problem is me? Moz and the others should not be excluded based on the reasons above.
I can't for one moment believe that the Coventry City Supporters Club has been set up to exclude Coventry City supporters, nor that we are so blessed with so many fans that we can be so choosy with who we include.
Whatever the background to the exclusion this decision is shortsighted. If the Trust is planning something then surely that is their democratic right and even if you do not approve of it the protest is not under the CCFC supporters club banner.
You state the group made the right decision to distance yourselves but by this decision you now find yourselves embroiled in the sort of mess that you were set up to avoid. Let them in and if they get political within your organization kick them out.
I am a member of the Bedworth and Nuneaton branch and what I see them do is inclusive and backs the team, surely that is the criteria it should be to support Coventry City?

SkyBlueZack said:

we made our decision to maintain our status as non political and when we see certain ex trust members planning anti owner and club protests at the ricoh arena wasps first game , we made the right decision to distant ourselves from these people at a very precarious time with negotiations ongoing for our return .

Comment by rob foster on the groups page on Facebook.

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You have made it political, people can act in different capacities and roles in life and both entities have different aims which are not directly opposed to each other, can a person not be a trust member and try and achieve what they set as their objectives and not be a member of a supporters club and achieve their aims and ambitions too?
It seems really odd to me but it’s your membership with its vision, aims and objectives and board and therefore, can do what it likes in line with that and being consistent in the treatment of all in line with the guiding principles/rules.

I hope it goes well and to plan for the membership and all its members as I think all supporter groups do set out with the right intentions and the club and fans at the centre of its heart.

‘the truth will always come out and social media tide is turning , we knew what we had to do mate , or we would have been guilty by association with this planned disruptive to negotiation protest scheduled for wasps first game , I will talk to you soon mate’.

Another comment from rob.

‘not only were he and CJ planning to protest they were tagging the groups Twitter account into it making it look as if the group were backing it’.

Another comment from a different rob.

The quotes are not mine.

Mild-Mannered Janitor said:

You have made it political, people can act in different capacities and roles in life and both entities have different aims which are not directly opposed to each other, can a person not be a trust member and try and achieve what they set as their objectives and not be a member of a supporters club and achieve their aims and ambitions too?
It seems really odd to me but it’s your membership with its vision, aims and objectives and board and therefore, can do what it likes in line with that and being consistent in the treatment of all in line with the guiding principles/rules.

I hope it goes well and to plan for the membership and all its members as I think all supporter groups do set out with the right intentions and the club and fans at the centre of its heart.

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Small point, but Zack was quoting, even if he decided to do away with the tradition of including quote marks

That small pedantry aside, I do wonder where it stops as well. Are all the 21 banned for protesting against Wasps? That was a political act after all...

NorthernWisdom said:

Small point, but Zack was quoting, even if he decided to do away with the tradition of including quote marks

That small pedantry aside, I do wonder where it stops as well. Are all the 21 banned for protesting against Wasps? That was a political act after all...

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I get the impression the planned protest is not against wasps but on the day of the first game