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Johhny Blue

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We could always ground share with cov and nw cricket club, they always have a lovely playing surface, although no one would be allowed to run across that bit in the middle!
We could try 5-0-5
 

shmmeee

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To be honest the best thing was to let ACL default and go bust. Start again. Although the council weren’t going to have that.

Clearly people are making money from that venture

I’m not against a relationship with Wasps per se - They only want us there as a junior partner at most. Not a 50/50 venture

I’m more than happy to split non sport revenue and keep all football revenue - they can keep rugby revenue

I’m not sure how ACL going bust would help. We’d be back to square one.

There seems to be this fantasy that if the current occupiers go bust then we’ll (and by we I mean Sisu, CCFC won’t own anything) just get given it. I’m not sure where that comes from.
 

Grendel

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I’m not sure how ACL going bust would help. We’d be back to square one.

There seems to be this fantasy that if the current occupiers go bust then we’ll (and by we I mean Sisu, CCFC won’t own anything) just get given it. I’m not sure where that comes from.

The council would get it back on a sub 45 year lease - I don’t think they’ll find another franchise and I’m sure even you might be slightly irked if they bulldozed it for yet another hotel no one wants
 

oldskyblue58

CCFC Finance Director
Or wasps go into administration, create a new company buy the bits back it needs and start again by taking on a new lease at the ricoh from the council............... some sort of deal done for pennies in the £ for the bondholders to release their charge..... where have i seen a plan like that before ????:(

I would be surprised if wasps hadn't done some insolvency planning or at least taken some advice on it

As for letting ACL go bust you could argue the best thing would have been to let CCFC go bust back in 2007 and start again........... It was the bank as the major creditor that had the final say on that particular insolvency decision making ........ The club and CCC work together to rebuild rather than but heads for years
 

Grendel

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Or wasps go into administration, create a new company buy the bits back it needs and start again by taking on a new lease at the ricoh from the council............... some sort of deal done for pennies in the £ for the bondholders to release their charge..... where have i seen a plan like that before ????:(

I would be surprised if wasps hadn't done some insolvency planning or at least taken some advice on it

As for letting ACL go bust you could argue the best thing would have been to let CCFC go bust back in 2007 and start again........... It was the bank as the major creditor that had the final say on that particular insolvency decision making ........ The club and CCC work together to rebuild rather than but heads for years

Or ccfc made ACL go bust in 2007
 

robbiethemole

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can we stay at St A until the old place has had a lick of paint and a good tidy up, feckin shithole, we don't need to be paying for the maintenance of the place
 

shmmeee

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can we stay at St A until the old place has had a lick of paint and a good tidy up, feckin shithole, we don't need to be paying for the maintenance of the place

Apart from anything else. Any new deal has to include clauses on pitch condition.
 

ccfcricoh

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As long as the wasps are involved with the Ricoh i dont want to be thanks, Sisu owners or not.

Think we need the franchise to up and leave one way or the other or build new. Can't see either of those happening in the next couple of years though.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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As long as the wasps are involved with the Ricoh i dont want to be thanks, Sisu owners or not.

Think we need the franchise to up and leave one way or the other or build new. Can't see either of those happening in the next couple of years though.
Well we’ll cease to exist without a viable plan
 

GaryJones

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Be very interesting to see what happens if we get promoted to the Championship!
I could see us remaining at SA for another season and we play the long game and smoke the wasps out of the Ricoh nest!
Fuckers - I hope they go bust and we get promoted - bliss!
 

chiefdave

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To be honest I’m not sure such a price exists that allows us to run the Ricoh without Wasps there. I suspect (no evidence obvs) that a ground share between the two clubs is the only thing that’ll make the Ricoh viable.
Thought Italia was back for a minute, that was one of his favourite assertions. Although he never could explain why having their own ground is unaffordable for CCFC yet doesn't seem to present an issue for so many other clubs.
 

shmmeee

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Thought Italia was back for a minute, that was one of his favourite assertions. Although he never could explain why having their own ground is unaffordable for CCFC yet doesn't seem to present an issue for so many other clubs.

How many other clubs play at the Ricoh?

I said I’m not sure the Ricoh is viable on our current crowds on our own.

My position from day one has been: if we can’t afford what the council are asking (and that’s what CCFCs line has been so take it up with them) we should build our own ground. The Ricoh is made for a team getting 15k+ crowds regularly at least. If we went up I could see a route to us paying for it ourselves, but if ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas.

As always you’re arguing with a person and argument you’ve made up in your head.
 

Grendel

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How many other clubs play at the Ricoh?

I said I’m not sure the Ricoh is viable on our current crowds on our own.

My position from day one has been: if we can’t afford what the council are asking (and that’s what CCFCs line has been so take it up with them) we should build our own ground. The Ricoh is made for a team getting 15k+ crowds regularly at least. If we went up I could see a route to us paying for it ourselves, but if ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas.

As always you’re arguing with a person and argument you’ve made up in your head.

The difference between 10,000 a year and 15,000 in ebit is maximum £1 million a year - how on earth is that suddenly making unsustainable sustainable? Even by your standards that’s beyond logical
 

ccfcway

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Can’t quite believe what I’m reading on some of this thread

In my opinion, anyone happy to continue to play at St Andrews (or anywhere outside of Coventry) whilst not being confident of seeing ground being broken or a robust plan to return needs to be careful what they wish for.

I can’t see a way back at the moment and that’s a concern.

Continued Radio silence from all parties (including the owners who have most to lose).

We are Coventry City and despite not living in the city and not caring from a travel point of view, my priority as a minimum is we play in our city !
 
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ccfcway

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I don’t want us to go back to the Ricoh.

It’s done now.

It’s Wasps stadium. It’s a rugby ground.

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Purely for fun (fully appreciate it will
Never be these two choices) which would you rather ?

1) return to the Ricoh as tenants
2) become Warwickshire sky blues and rent commonwealth stadium and access to revenues enabling the club to spend more on the field

curious to see how much the Ricoh has been written off by people.
 

ccfc1234

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I don’t want us to go back to the Ricoh.

It’s done now.

It’s Wasps stadium. It’s a rugby ground.


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With respect the seats are still branded CCFC. There is the memorial garden and many fans own a brick in the fabric of the building. If franchise rugby club change those things (mainly the seats) I would agree it's done. Until then there is hope.
 

JimmyHillsbeard

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Hasn’t our form dipped at the Ricoh in each season once they started playing Rugby on it? I’ll try and dig out some stats when the Sultan of Brunei grants me proper internet access in his guest palace if that’s ok w Hill83 ;-)
 

fernandopartridge

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Hasn’t our form dipped at the Ricoh in each season once they started playing Rugby on it? I’ll try and dig out some stats when the Sultan of Brunei grants me proper internet access in his guest palace if that’s ok w Hill83 ;-)
Certainly true in the first two seasons.

First season:
Before P9 W3 D3 L3
After P12 W2 D5 L5

Second:
Before: P6 W4 D2 L0
After: P17 W8 D4 L5
 

Magwitch

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]I'm almost positive that when we first moved to the Ricoh it was said that the 'break even' crowd required was 20k .[/QUOTE]
i think it was 23000, that was our maximum gate for the first few months, can’t remember why
 

Frank Sidebottom

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]I'm almost positive that when we first moved to the Ricoh it was said that the 'break even' crowd required was 20k .
i think it was 23000, that was our maximum gate for the first few months, can’t remember why[/QUOTE]
Attendance for the 1st 2 or 3 games was capped at 23k.... something to do with the safety certificate I think, I remember due to delays having to play our 1st 3 games away. I think my first Ricoh game wasn't until a dismal 2-0 loss against Hull at the end of September.
 

pipkin73

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It’s wasps at the Ricoh, what did u expect.
I don't expect anything, just replying to Canadian saying they don't play there till October. So what, start the pitch as early as possible so it's in the best possible condition for the season ahead. Shows that WXXXS don't give a dam about the pitch. Anything is ok for egg chasing if it saves a couple of pounds.
 

CanadianCCFC

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I don't expect anything, just replying to Canadian saying they don't play there till October. So what, start the pitch as early as possible so it's in the best possible condition for the season ahead. Shows that WXXXS don't give a dam about the pitch. Anything is ok for egg chasing if it saves a couple of pounds.
Yeah I know sorry I was just unsure if people were aware that the rugby season starts later this year because of the RWC, I wasn’t defending the c***s.
 

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