Poll:Attendance (1 Viewer)

How will St. Andrews impact attendance next season


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hill83

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Haven’t been to a home game for 2 seasons. Work 2 weekends a month, had a child etc. All excuses really as I just couldn’t be arsed to go. This feels like a call to arms for me now though so I’ll be going to as many as I can get to. Also feel a bit guilty not going for the last couple of years other than the Wembley piss ups.
 

Nick

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Haven’t been to a home game for 2 seasons. Work 2 weekends a month, had a child etc. All excuses really as I just couldn’t be arsed to go. This feels like a call to arms for me now though so I’ll be going to as many as I can get to. Also feel a bit guilty not going for the last couple of years other than the Wembley piss ups.

The difference is you have just said straight up you can't be bothered mostly because nobody else is etc. You haven't tried to get a moral chuffty badge.
 

olderskyblue

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I'm finding this thread a bit strange.

It's been said on here many times, especially after the Northampton fiasco, that going or not going is a personal choice, and no one should be criticised for their decision. Dividing fans etc etc.

yet here we are, questioning CJ on his choice and reasons... Double standards or what?

Some wannabee super fans on here for sure
 

Nick

Administrator
I'm finding this thread a bit strange.

It's been said on here many times, especially after the Northampton fiasco, that going or not going is a personal choice, and no one should be criticised for their decision. Dividing fans etc etc.

yet here we are, questioning CJ on his choice and reasons... Double standards or what?

Some wannabee super fans on here for sure

Think it was more questioning his logic. I can understand if people don't want to go to Birmingham, not going if the Ricoh was just a bit up the road isn't really the same ;)
 

Cov kid 55

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Haven’t been to a home game for 2 seasons. Work 2 weekends a month, had a child etc. All excuses really as I just couldn’t be arsed to go. This feels like a call to arms for me now though so I’ll be going to as many as I can get to. Also feel a bit guilty not going for the last couple of years other than the Wembley piss ups.
Welcome back - personally I feel that this is the time to step up, I live near Newcastle and attend more away games than home, but I will attend more home games this year.
 

skybluesam66

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I'm finding this thread a bit strange.

It's been said on here many times, especially after the Northampton fiasco, that going or not going is a personal choice, and no one should be criticised for their decision. Dividing fans etc etc.

yet here we are, questioning CJ on his choice and reasons... Double standards or what?

Some wannabee super fans on here for sure
I think it is more the trust that he stands with. I think that is the contradiction
 

Cov kid 55

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Just get a membership for £28.60. ST holders won’t sell out away tickets.
Membership became available last week, got mine. It gives you an advantage (and a nice card to proudly flash) but there are still times (think Lincoln, Forest Green) when all tickets are taken by season ticket holders. Ces’t la vie, I’m getting used to sitting in the home end (on my hands!)
 

olderskyblue

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Think it was more questioning his logic. I can understand if people don't want to go to Birmingham, not going if the Ricoh was just a bit up the road isn't really the same ;)

No matter, it's his choice whatever the reasons. Questioning them is still trying to suggest he should go, even though he says he won't.
 

Nick

Administrator
No matter, it's his choice whatever the reasons. Questioning them is still trying to suggest he should go, even though he says he won't.

It's not really, it's questioning the logic about the invisible line and a ground being a bit down the street and suddenly not going and comparing it to it being in Carlisle.

Fully understand why he wouldn't want to go to Birmingham!
 

CJ_covblaze

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Never got the "no a foot over the boundary" thing. Then again, despite this being my 47th season I have never lived in Coventry and I never will I have always travelled from Southam, then Leamington and finally for the last 20 years Warwick. I supported City as my Dad did and he started taking me on my 7th birthday in 1972. It seems strange to go and watch England a 1000 miles away, for example, yet not the team you support less than 20 miles away. Especially when you consider that this is a totally different situation to Sixfields and, in my opinion, down to Wasps and not the football club or its owners.

Then again, reminds me of those threads in the past where people on here have said they'd rather England win the World Cup than CCFC win the FA Cup or get promotion to the Premiership. Weird.

Can’t help how I feel. With regards to England, for me major international tournaments are the pinocle of football. Same goes for ODI Cricket and both codes of Rugby.
 

olderskyblue

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I think it is more the trust that he stands with. I think that is the contradiction

So, he buys season tickets for others, puts money into the club in other ways, attends most away games but won't go to SA. That disqualifies him from being part of the trust then? The trust have said its personal choice whether people attend or not, so doesn't that apply to their board too?

I don't get why people are questioning him (or anyone else) for making their choice. It's yet again raising the "divide the fans" banner. You either think someone who decides not to go to SA should be criticised, or not. Clearly some on here think they should be.
 

GaryMabbuttsLeftKnee

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So, he buys season tickets for others, puts money into the club in other ways, attends most away games but won't go to SA. That disqualifies him from being part of the trust then? The trust have said its personal choice whether people attend or not, so doesn't that apply to their board too?

I don't get why people are questioning him (or anyone else) for making their choice. It's yet again raising the "divide the fans" banner. You either think someone who decides not to go to SA should be criticised, or not. Clearly some on here think they should be.
Are we not allowed to ask questions? I wasn't trying to put him down, I was making genuine queries. I wanted to know what consitutes going and not going, and it appears it's very black and white for him. If that's the case so be it, but as with literally everything in life, people will have an opinion on that. No one is shouting him down or slating him for not going as far as I can see, just suggesting that the logic of something being one metre over a line means you can't go, is a bit odd.
 

Grendel

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I'm finding this thread a bit strange.

It's been said on here many times, especially after the Northampton fiasco, that going or not going is a personal choice, and no one should be criticised for their decision. Dividing fans etc etc.

yet here we are, questioning CJ on his choice and reasons... Double standards or what?

Some wannabee super fans on here for sure

The purpose of it is not to judge any view but to analyse the data and see if when it’s quoted those who will not attend are protesting against the club is s realistic assumption
 

Grendel

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The only reason I was interested in who voted where was actually to see if any would attend more games and why
 

olderskyblue

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The purpose of it is not to judge any view but to analyse the data and see if when it’s quoted those who will not attend are protesting against the club is s realistic assumption

That's what I understood it was for.
 

Cov kid 55

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As far as I can see there has been hardly any animosity on this forum over who’s going and who isn’t. Maybe time to let this go, OSB, it’s a non issue on this forum unless we chose to make it one.
 

Grendel

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As far as I can see there has been hardly any animosity on this forum over who’s going and who isn’t. Maybe time to let this go, OSB, it’s a non issue on this forum unless we chose to make it one.

I’m not making it one. I’m compiling data from fans to present to the trust.
 

lifeskyblue

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Yes got STs so son and I will attend the majority of home games. May miss odd one due to evening travel and/or family commitments.
Away games hopefully attend half dozen or few more.


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Terry_dactyl

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I think if people post their opinions on a forum, by it’s definition it is designed to create debate. I haven’t read CJ stating that he’s felt he’s being attacked. In fact I thought he was happy to respond.
 

Grendel

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I think if people post their opinions on a forum, by it’s definition it is designed to create debate. I haven’t read CJ stating that he’s felt he’s being attacked. In fact I thought he was happy to respond.

Perhaps it was an error to identify posters. The reality is people will refuse to attend if it’s outside the border.

There is no case to argue - If that’s an opinion then that’s it. It’s the numbers who feel that way and see if that’s an accurate representation in how the trust board report non attendance
 

usskyblue

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Do we know if any of the Trust members are going to St. Andrews ? Or is it unanimous Trust ‘policy’ to boycott ?

Edit to clarify; Board members that attend meetings.
 

Terry_dactyl

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Perhaps it was an error to identify posters. The reality is people will refuse to attend if it’s outside the border.

There is no case to argue - If that’s an opinion then that’s it. It’s the numbers who feel that way and see if that’s an accurate representation in how the trust board report non attendance
Fair enough. Still, good to hear and explore fellow fans opinions. Fair play to CJ, he’s been patient with the questions.
 

NorthernWisdom

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Perhaps it was an error to identify posters. The reality is people will refuse to attend if it’s outside the border.

There is no case to argue - If that’s an opinion then that’s it. It’s the numbers who feel that way and see if that’s an accurate representation in how the trust board report non attendance
I don't disagree with you, although remember we're only one part of a whole. Doesn't make it invalid, but does mean we shouldn't big up this board *too* much as a voice for anything more than a subculture within a wider culture as a whole.

As an aside, it'd be kind of interesting to link attendance with where people live. My hypothesis would be that message boards get a disproportionate number of people who live further away (certainly why I started posting, how else would I know whether we were *really* going to sign Dean Gordon!) and those who live further away are probably less affected by a move as they have to travel anyway. I might be wrong on that btw, and it's more complex to answer than even that write-up, but... this is just one piece in the jigsaw.
 

Grendel

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Do we know if any of the Trust members are going to St. Andrews ? Or is it unanimous Trust ‘policy’ to boycott ?

Edit to clarify; Board members that attend meetings.

Neil white is newly elected and wants to change things - he was away at the first meeting to be fair to him. He confirms he will attend games
 

CJ_covblaze

Well-Known Member
Do we know if any of the Trust members are going to St. Andrews ? Or is it unanimous Trust ‘policy’ to boycott ?

Edit to clarify; Board members that attend meetings.

Yes there is.
 

olderskyblue

Well-Known Member
As far as I can see there has been hardly any animosity on this forum over who’s going and who isn’t. Maybe time to let this go, OSB, it’s a non issue on this forum unless we chose to make it one.

It was more the following that I was aiming at

Sounds like a pitiful excuse to me.Real fans support their team..... Weren't you a member or the 'trust'?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
I don't disagree with you, although remember we're only one part of a whole. Doesn't make it invalid, but does mean we shouldn't big up this board *too* much as a voice for anything more than a subculture within a wider culture as a whole.

As an aside, it'd be kind of interesting to link attendance with where people live. My hypothesis would be that message boards get a disproportionate number of people who live further away (certainly why I started posting, how else would I know whether we were *really* going to sign Dean Gordon!) and those who live further away are probably less affected by a move as they have to travel anyway. I might be wrong on that btw, and it's more complex to answer than even that write-up, but... this is just one piece in the jigsaw.

The reality is it over 100 poll even on a wildly optimistic fan base of 40,000 it’d more representative than a MORI poll for a general election of 1,000

It’s also a lot more representative than a board member concluding as only 6 or 10 oppose him the rest of the ccfc fan base are with him.

Also far more than determining a mildly anti wasps sentiment from a pint and a pork pie group of 20 in a pub

The actual question of course is how the trust shape policy. Now they may have done many surveys to its membership but I’ve not seen any.

So if the findings are refuted I assume they will do an online survey of its membership and analyse the responses compared to on here. That’s what any professional group would do.
 

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