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skyblue025

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I can't see it either. They would probably offer it Cov Rugby, Sphinx, Nuneaton Borough, London Irish or anyone else other than SISU. Or just knock it down. What would SISU do then???
 

skyblueeyesrevisited

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If the council get fined who do you think will ultimately pay the bill?

The tax payer.

Won’t affect the slime individuals involved in the fiasco.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
Agree with the “nobody knows” bit, which is why I am curious. In your senerio (which maybe right), that would wipe out wasps, council have the stadium and owe a fine.

Still cant see that they would then sell the stadium to sisu, and if they did, it would have to be at the market price set out in the case ?
Would there be a problem with that, probably cheaper than a new build.
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
Sorry ?.

Never been (or would ever go) to a wasps game and have no interest in a council that I don’t contribute to or doesn’t support their local sports team. Not sure why I would love either of those ?. Do tell why I love wasps ?
Apologies if you aren’t a wasps council lover. It’s just the way you come over in your posts.
 

CanadianCCFC

Well-Known Member
I can't see it either. They would probably offer it Cov Rugby, Sphinx, Nuneaton Borough, London Irish or anyone else other than SISU. Or just knock it down. What would SISU do then???
Why would any of those teams (except maybe London Irish I don’t know their stadium situation) want the Ricoh?
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
Would there be a problem with that, probably cheaper than a new build.

In my opinion, There is no way SISU have gone through this court battle to pay a fair market price for the Ricoh, there’s nothing in it for them ?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
In my opinion, There is no way SISU have gone through this court battle to pay a fair market price for the Ricoh, there’s nothing in it for them ?
My original hypotheses was the council handing the Ricoh over in lieu of damages. IF that happened, Sisu would have got it for nothing.
 

ccfcway

Well-Known Member
My original hypotheses was the council handing the Ricoh over in lieu of damages. IF that happened, Sisu would have got it for nothing.

Maybe your right, just can’t see it happening as I can’t see how the loss in ticket sales (and maybe sponsorship) will amount to the new larger value of the Ricoh
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
aren't we constantly told that the CCC have strict guidelines when making decisions and that personal feelings don't come in to the decision making process?

We're also told that CCC act in the best interest of the Coventry council tax payer so surely if there ever was a chance of sisu gaining control of the stadium any proposed deal would be assessed in a purely professional manner by the council, (stop sniggering).

Grow up.

Once more for the slow people at the back: unanimous decision by councillors of all parties and none.

You. Don’t. Get. Conspiracies. Between. Political. Parties. Councils. Have. Oversight. From. Other. Bodies. The. Courts. Have. Repeatedly. Found. Your. Ramblings. To. Be. Nonsense.

I’ll stop sniggering when you stop being ridiculous.
 

Nick

Administrator
Grow up.

Once more for the slow people at the back: unanimous decision by councillors of all parties and none.

You. Don’t. Get. Conspiracies. Between. Political. Parties. Councils. Have. Oversight. From. Other. Bodies. The. Courts. Have. Repeatedly. Found. Your. Ramblings. To. Be. Nonsense.

I’ll stop sniggering when you stop being ridiculous.

The courts did actually reveal personal feelings came into it.
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
Why would any of those teams (except maybe London Irish I don’t know their stadium situation) want the Ricoh?
London Irish are going to be sharing Brentfords new ground when it opens next year, moving from the Madejski.

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MalcSB

Well-Known Member
Maybe your right, just can’t see it happening as I can’t see how the loss in ticket sales (and maybe sponsorship) will amount to the new larger value of the Ricoh
It’s more than just ticket sales and sponsorship, although arena sponsorship would have been renewed probably at a greater fee than wasps could get (but haven’t managed so far). It’s f&b, events, rental of places to play and any other opportunities that could have presented themselves. Anyway, it’s all supposition and guesswork- there may not be a case to answer.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
Grow up.

Once more for the slow people at the back: unanimous decision by councillors of all parties and none.

You. Don’t. Get. Conspiracies. Between. Political. Parties. Councils. Have. Oversight. From. Other. Bodies. The. Courts. Have. Repeatedly. Found. Your. Ramblings. To. Be. Nonsense.

I’ll stop sniggering when you stop being ridiculous.

HAHA!!

And it was Skyblue025 who said CCC wouldn't let sisu take control of the stadium, I said there were checks and balances but frankly I don't believe they'd be adhered to, I think skyblue025 is correct.
 

HuckerbyDublinWhelan

Well-Known Member
If the EU complaint was successful SISU still wouldn’t get the Ricoh. Even in lieu of damages.

You’ve got lost opportunities such as sales of tickets etc. But the EU argument is that the Ricoh was undersold.

The damages would have to run to the same amount as the correct value of the Ricoh. Which would be doubtful.

If wasps gave the Ricoh back - would Higgs have to give their share back? I suppose the only viable alternative would be to tender for that share again at the formula price?
 

mark82

Moderator
If the EU complaint was successful SISU still wouldn’t get the Ricoh. Even in lieu of damages.

You’ve got lost opportunities such as sales of tickets etc. But the EU argument is that the Ricoh was undersold.

The damages would have to run to the same amount as the correct value of the Ricoh. Which would be doubtful.

If wasps gave the Ricoh back - would Higgs have to give their share back? I suppose the only viable alternative would be to tender for that share again at the formula price?

Wasps wouldn't have to give it back, they'd have to pay the difference between what they paid and the market value.
 

skyblueinBaku

Well-Known Member
Grow up.

Once more for the slow people at the back: unanimous decision by councillors of all parties and none.

You. Don’t. Get. Conspiracies. Between. Political. Parties. Councils. Have. Oversight. From. Other. Bodies. The. Courts. Have. Repeatedly. Found. Your. Ramblings. To. Be. Nonsense.

I’ll stop sniggering when you stop being ridiculous.
As I recall, there was dissent in the council over the Wasps deal until a meeting (behind closed doors, no minutes or notes taken) with Wasps who gave a 'presentation'. After that, there was unanimity in the council. What happened or was said to change minds?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
presentation was in an envelope i imagine

If literally every politician if every party in Coventry is corrupt as you suggest, then there are far far bigger issues than a sports ground to worry about.

I can’t wait to support your campaign on removing this endemic corruption in our local government. After all you’re not just saying shit for internet points right?
 

covcity4life

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If literally every politician if every party in Coventry is corrupt as you suggest, then there are far far bigger issues than a sports ground to worry about.

I can’t wait to support your campaign on removing this endemic corruption in our local government. After all you’re not just saying shit for internet points right?
not sure why i am replying to you because you are a spam bot

but why would i decide to take on corruptness in local council? lmao. i have a problem with drugs and knives on street but i aint joining the police to tackle it aahah, i and everyone for that matter can say if they see problems without having to take on the responsibility of stopping it, ridiculous

sit your butt hurt ass down shmee,i like ya but when it comes to council you show your bias and everyone on this forum sees you as a lesser poster for it. we get it you are team council because of family ties but if thats case why post on SBT? talking tactics but then rooting for entity that want club dead just dont fly.

make your mind up,do you love ccfc or ccc?
 

Nick

Administrator
If literally every politician if every party in Coventry is corrupt as you suggest, then there are far far bigger issues than a sports ground to worry about.

I can’t wait to support your campaign on removing this endemic corruption in our local government. After all you’re not just saying shit for internet points right?

It does seem there are other issues other than CCFC they should be worrying about also ;)
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
If literally every politician if every party in Coventry is corrupt as you suggest, then there are far far bigger issues than a sports ground to worry about.

I can’t wait to support your campaign on removing this endemic corruption in our local government. After all you’re not just saying shit for internet points right?

I don't think it is corruption. The Ricoh story has both Labour and Tory fingerprints on it historically. That said it is the council officers who are the constant rather than councilors as such.
 

clint van damme

Well-Known Member
If literally every politician if every party in Coventry is corrupt as you suggest, then there are far far bigger issues than a sports ground to worry about.

I can’t wait to support your campaign on removing this endemic corruption in our local government. After all you’re not just saying shit for internet points right?

it's not just the Ricoh though.
I've lived in Coventry all my life and I have so many instances of incompetence, duplicity and for want of a better word corruption albeit in regard to far smaller matters than the Ricoh.

Having said that, I don't for one minute think it's unique to Coventry, I'm sure if I lived in any other fairly large city the story would be the same. I'm not sure why you seem to think it's preposterous, it's not as if it doesn't go on at a national level.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
Agree with the “nobody knows” bit, which is why I am curious. In your senerio (which maybe right), that would wipe out wasps, council have the stadium and owe a fine.

Still cant see that they would then sell the stadium to sisu, and if they did, it would have to be at the market price set out in the case ?

If wasps counldn't pay the difference and the council were fined (which would have to be a massive change in thinking given all previous rulings) then the council could use that as extenuating circumstances to have to resell at a lower value. People have to sell their houses and cars at way under market value due to financial pressures. Even then the council don't have to sell it to the highest bidder if they feel someone else will utilise it better and benefit the wider community/create jobs etc. Which pretty much gives them every excuse to look at every other option before SISU. People assumed last time SISU would be their only option to sell it to - it turned out to not be the case.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
If literally every politician if every party in Coventry is corrupt as you suggest, then there are far far bigger issues than a sports ground to worry about.
Errr, that's the case in Coventry isn't it? The issue with the Ricoh is far from the only problem with the council, and that's just the ones we know about, with all the hush money they've paid out who knows what else is being hidden.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
Grow up.

Once more for the slow people at the back: unanimous decision by councillors of all parties and none.

You. Don’t. Get. Conspiracies. Between. Political. Parties. Councils. Have. Oversight. From. Other. Bodies. The. Courts. Have. Repeatedly. Found. Your. Ramblings. To. Be. Nonsense.

I’ll stop sniggering when you stop being ridiculous.
A unanimous decision at a meeting without minutes and closed to the public. You'd expect more from a central asian dictator. Just because you've got family members caught up in it doesn't mean you have to be a c**t to people who can see through the bullshit.

Mention Hanlon's Raizor if you want because you've just read about it but there is proof in the public domain about the council being duplicitous.

As for internet points and keyboard warrior chats, you'd never act like this to someone face so don't pretend to be any better.

Stop being a twat.
 

CJ_covblaze

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martcov

Well-Known Member
Surely it would be a case that wasps would have to give the stadium back, CCC pay wasps the money they paid back and CCC would face a fine ?

At what point would SISU benefit ?

Why a fine? If they have done anything, it is a mistake not a crime.
 

theferret

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Going off topic slightly, has anyone else heard this crackpot rumour today that there is a Qatari billionaire at the Ricoh today in talks to buy the whole lot (CCFC included)?
 

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