The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (6 Viewers)

As of right now, how are thinking of voting? In or out

  • Remain

    Votes: 23 37.1%
  • Leave

    Votes: 35 56.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Not registered or not intention to vote

    Votes: 1 1.6%

  • Total voters
    62
  • Poll closed .

Grendel

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It has been argued one of the main reasons a number of wealthy individuals, financiers etc back Brexit is because the EU wants to bring in tougher independent regulation of financial services. That doesn't suit them as it shines a light on their activities.

People like JRM want self-regulation so essentially no-one can look at what they're doing and if there are calls of impropriety the people conducting the investigation will be themselves. So a "nothing to see here, guv" attitude.

Of course, of course with the scrutiny in Mr Junker and his specific back yard
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Trump insists that Germany increases military spending on NATO. So it has chosen to spend less, but is under pressure to rearm from the USA. Seeing as Germany is not in the slightest interested in going to war, I don’t get what you have to worry about.
I'm not worried currently. I haven't been for a long time. That doesn't mean we should be complacent.
 

Grendel

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I’m sure that you’ll be outraged when the UK doesn’t introduce its own equivalent laws.

Europe of course introduced much legislation to look like it has a veneer if respectability and then conveniently ignores them
 

Grendel

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I’m more concerned about Trump misjudging a situation.

What? Trump has a very passive foreign policy even compared to Obama
 

Grendel

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I await your outrage when the UK fails to introduce anything. Or perhaps not.

The notion the uk if leaving the Eu will suddenly become a banana republic is rather silly don’t you think?
 

Grendel

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That has nothing whatsoever with what I said. Actually, with Johnson in charge, who knows what will happen.

I think at least there is a chance Johnson will deliver Brexit
 

Grendel

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If I were a leaver I wouldn’t be happy. I actually with him in charge there’s even less chance of it happening.

I don’t - he will present a May type deal say it’s all his own and I think it will get through especially as 40 or so labour voters are likely to go for that type of arrangement
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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I’m more concerned about Trump misjudging a situation.
I don't disagree with that one little bit. I thought he'd have been shot by now.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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If I were a leaver I wouldn’t be happy. I actually with him in charge there’s even less chance of it happening.
In which case you must be elated. I don't think leavers have any less faith in him than anyone else.
 

Grendel

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In general. What’s the plan? Major investment in infrastructure? Tax haven? Financial services?

Given that we will have a Brexit arrangement that is hardly any different to what we have now and be tied to Eu legislation for several years I’m not sure what you mean. I doubt we will follow Mr Junkers little Duchy regarding tax status.
 

Grendel

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In Boris?

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Polls show Leavers are a lot bigger Boris fans than non Leavers.

Hardly a surprise.

Let’s be honest the one thing Johnson is voted in for is to get Brexit done.

If that’s delivered the Brexit party vanishes and crucially labour having publicly declared (sort of as the great leader agrees with Johnson really) that they will campaign for remain will have nowhere to go. Corbyn is drastically on the wane - peak Corbyn is long long gone.

So it’s a means to an end. Deliver the result get an election done which will move Corbyn out and labour back to a minority opposition and that’s it job done.

Johnson is tommy cooper. It’s all a bad magic act - everything is false but it’s all done to get a result - which if he gets a Brexit if sorts done he will achieve
 

Sick Boy

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I don’t - he will present a May type deal say it’s all his own and I think it will get through especially as 40 or so labour voters are likely to go for that type of arrangement
He’s come out with so much now that he would look an even bigger fool to present a May type deal. With him in charge there’s even more chance of no Brexit at all. However, it’s already been established that the cult of Brexit is greater for some than that the prosperity of the country,so who knows what will happen.
 

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