Sky Blue Pete
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What’s that then? An end to austerity? An end to elite ruling class and deep damage to society in the uk as the rich get obscenely rich and adult and child social care go to the wall?
The EU: In, out, shake it all about.... (13 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Pete
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It’s a fair shout about Corbyn to be honest. He’s not led this well
Which for nearly 3 years the main parties have failed to achieve.
Sick Boy
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What sort of turnout has been expected? The Euro elections have historically been very low.
Evo1883
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It's people like Emma that I love for the comedic factor.
Implying that all the remainers voted greens and lib dem, would mean that over 60% never voted for remain, my god people cling onto anything haha
This women is an absolute tool
Obviously I don't believe that 60% of Britain want to leave but its just the sheer bullshit spouted just to cling onto any last drop of hope lol
Implying that all the remainers voted greens and lib dem, would mean that over 60% never voted for remain, my god people cling onto anything haha
This women is an absolute tool
Obviously I don't believe that 60% of Britain want to leave but its just the sheer bullshit spouted just to cling onto any last drop of hope lol
Ian1779
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You’ve illustrated my point perfectly.... anything except a no deal is called a ‘remainers Brexit’ - it’s bullshit.
Evo1883
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You either walk out the door or you stay inside, you can't stand in the middle.
Leave the European Union, or remain in the European Union.
Fairly simple question asked and answered
I get remainers frustration, but after all the name calling and digs at leave voters, I just don't care
Sick Boy
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No there won’t.
The EU has done a lot more no deal preparation than the UK, even Farage has said so.
CanadianCCFC
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Is this another one of those elections you do for fun but no one acts on the results of?
chiefdave
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What are we expecting in very general terms? Labour voters move to Lib Dem with Conservative and UKIP voters going to Brexit Party?
Evo1883
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Yea, brexit party will win, but we will have to wait 3 years just to see if people knew what they voted for
Sky Blue Pete
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What can the elected eu officials do about leaving the eu nationally?
Sick Boy
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Leading leavers during the build up to the referendum were advocating the EEA option which would mean leaving the EU. Obviously that went out of the window though and the goal posts moved. The way some go on you’d think Leave won by a major landslide. (Not implying you are, I mean in general).
Evo1883
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Well in terms of constituencies , it was an absolute whitewash.
More voters than the cities of Birmingham and Coventry combined was the winning margin.
Take away London, it was an embarrassingly big margin.
The country wants out
There isn't enough remain constituencies to turn around the numbers in order to win a remain vote even 2nd time round
I still don't see why people can't see this
JAM See
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I don't. I'm not alone.
Sky Blue Pete
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They can but tell us how it’s done?
Evo1883
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Guess what, many people don't like general election results either but guess what... We have to deal with it, called democracy
This country voted to leave, end of story
CanadianCCFC
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Nothing, I wasn’t talking about just brexit, I was asking whether the results of this election will be ignored.
Evo1883
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Over 60% of labour constituencies voted leave, over 70% of tory constituencies voted leave.
I can't see where remain can make up the numbers to win a second referendum
Sick Boy
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The vote wasn’t done based upon constituencies though, was it? And neither would a second one, so not sure why you keep repeating it?
Take away London? It has a huge population; 2 countries of the UK didn’t vote out actually.
Evo1883
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No but you can gauge through numbers of people in said constituencies how people voted before to how they would vote again, and even with some swing towards remain, its just hard to see where they can win it overall.
It's a pipe dream
Mucca Mad Boys
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From the 2014 European elections, Brexit Party has absorbed all of the UKIP vote, and a bit more. Probably has taken more Tory than Labour votes but it’s nuanced.
The Lib Dem’s have taken votes off both Tory and Labour voters and Greens (who I voted in 2014) will mostly be current/ex Labour voters.
This election is polarised between no-deal Brexiteers and ‘Final Say’ referendum Remainers. Hence Labour and Conservatives have been punished.
Sick Boy
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As I said, the referendum was not a huge landslide and I don’t think that either side should feel like it’d be a foregone conclusion if a second one was to happen.
Mucca Mad Boys
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A referendum isn’t done on constituencies like our general elections, it’s a simple winner takes all.
Evo1883
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dutchman
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Sick Boy
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Yeah and it’s why using this as some kind of Brexit barometer is not helpful due to the low turnout.
Chances are that only the real diehards on both sides have bothered.
Sick Boy
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Based upon a turnout of 38%?
Evo1883
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Well let's be honest, the actual referendum had the highest turnout in history and still that's not enough for remainers to accept so...
Sick Boy
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It’s not the point that has been made and that I was referring to though, was it?
It’s no good trying to blame ordinary remain voters for the failings of the government, which has included prominent Brexiteers.
Evo1883
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No I know I'm just being sarcastic, cant even be arsed arguing about this tbh lol.
Dont even know why I am
