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chiefdave said:

WTF? If I'm reading that right Wasps are now saying that if they and / or the council are found to be in the wrong and there's a financial implication to that ruling the football club has to cover that?

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Yeah. If I rob you and get found guilty can you go to jail for me? I really wouldn’t like to be inconvenienced you see.


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all boils down to them knowing they did a shady deal and still worried it will come back to bite them

if only we could get planning permission on a new stadium, once we dont need them anymore it would be huge factor in us moving forwards.

cant butts overule council? or is a issue with safety routes etc?

chiefdave said:

WTF? If I'm reading that right Wasps are now saying that if they and / or the council are found to be in the wrong and there's a financial implication to that ruling the football club has to cover that?

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And it also suggests that they did know about the complaint before Lego head broke the story yesterday.
Be great to have Reads story validated by another source.

Am i being naive but why on earth did Sisu not make this complaint as a third party complaint using an organisation not related to Otium or SBS&L
surely if that had taken place then wasps and the council would have had nowhere to go as the complaint would have been made by someone else
just a thought !

Nick said:

I don't think SISU have any power over what is found by the committee in Europe do they? They just pointed them in the direction to investigate it.

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I think the point HDW was making was that if the EC find there was state aid, the UK courts can force Wasps to pay the shortfall. If that happens, there may be a stronger case in civil court for SISU to go after Wasps and/or Council for financial loss.

Why would they request indemnity when apparently Wasps and CCC have done nothing wrong? What do they think the EC is going to find in their investigation?

clint van damme said:

And it also suggests that they did know about the complaint before Lego head broke the story yesterday.
Be great to have Reads story validated by another source.

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It does, unless they managed to discuss it with CCFC in the space of a couple of hours after finding out and then "calling off" the talks.

I reckon more will come out from it, there's not a chance Wasps didn't know about it until Gilbert mentioned it.

rhino1002 said:

Am i being naive but why on earth did Sisu not make this complaint as a third party complaint using an organisation not related to Otium or SBS&L
surely if that had taken place then wasps and the council would have had nowhere to go as the complaint would have been made by someone else
just a thought !

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We don't know who actually filed the complaint do we? Just that a complaint has been made.

OffenhamSkyBlue said:

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Completely unrealistic and an implicit acceptance that something may be amiss. Why haven't they go their own indemnities with the council?

fernandopartridge said:

Completely unrealistic and an implicit acceptance that something may be amiss. Why haven't they go their own indemnities with the council?

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You mean for when they bought a stadium lease that was the subject of legal action? It's not as if it would be obvious they would need something like that.

chiefdave said:

We don't know who actually filed the complaint do we? Just that a complaint has been made.

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Well one assumes that it must be someone to do with Sisu or else they they might have been in the situation of denying that it was Otium or anyone related to CCFC
i dont know the answer but its not a great leap of faith to suggest that it was Otium

chiefdave said:

We don't know who actually filed the complaint do we? Just that a complaint has been made.

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It appears that searches of the EC website only give hits on cases that are being investigated fully (i.e. not preliminary investigations which is probably what is happening currently), so we can't see that info now.

OffenhamSkyBlue said:

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Do you think Gilbert will tweet about this?

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How the fuck can wasps view a complaint as legal action and therefore kicking us out of the ricoh

Absolute Wankers

Nick said:

How won't they?

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The law works on evidence and argument. They are the same facts the same conclusion is most likely

Sky Blue Pete said:

The law works on evidence and argument. They are the same facts the same conclusion is most likely

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It's a different scope mate. They will look at if an unfair advantage was given to wasps over anyone, not just sisu. Ffs this has been pointed out to you multiple times yet you keep posting the same thing. What did you say the definition of madness was again?

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SkyBlueDom26 said:

How the fuck can wasps view a complaint as legal action and therefore kicking us out of the ricoh

Absolute Wankers

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But Lego tweeted it is so it's now fact among a large proportion of our fanbase

clint van damme said:

But Lego tweeted it is so it's now fact among a large proportion of our fanbase

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Reading some of their tweets I'm surprised they can work a computer

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Greggs said:

The fact you claim to know more about complex legal activities, compared to that of a multi-million pound hedge fund, says to me you're perhaps the insane one.

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No claim to being in the know at all Greggs. Just rational and logical argument

David O'Day said:

It's a different scope mate. They will look at if an unfair advantage was given to wasps over anyone, not just sisu. Ffs this has been pointed out to you multiple times yet you keep posting the same thing. What did you say the definition of madness was again?

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You need to take a chill pill you’ll have a heart attack

Sky Blue Pete said:

The law works on evidence and argument. They are the same facts the same conclusion is most likely

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Not all looking at the same thing and they don't all have the same burden of proof.

Sky Blue Pete said:

No claim to being in the know at all Greggs. Just rational and logical argument

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Ffs kid, you gave been told the ec investigation will have a different scope than the jr.

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Sky Blue Pete said:

You need to take a chill pill you’ll have a heart attack

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You need to get a brain mr scarecrow

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chiefdave said:

Not all looking at the same thing and they don't all have the same burden of proof.

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He's genuinely a moron

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Ahh well. That’s that then. Onto the groundshare it is. Whoever’s At fault, it’s up to the fans to realise it’s them who keep the club alive.

We’ve got to do our best to attract the fans to wherever it is.

clint van damme said:

But Lego tweeted it is so it's now fact among a large proportion of our fanbase

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This the same Lego head who blocks people who ask him questions?

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David O'Day said:

This the same Lego head who blocks people who ask him questions?

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Thought that was the nature of all journos tbh.

Seen it all now haha, the sky blue express at the bottom is a weird thing to add

So there we have it. Its council and wasps working togethet again

covcity4life said:

So there we have it. Its council and wasps working togethet again

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Fucking Wasps, no intention of doing a deal. Fuck them. Hope the EC investigation somehow costs Wasps a load of money and you know what...I don't even like the Ricoh anymore.

I doubt it'll happen, but I really would love us to build our own ground.

covcity4life said:

So there we have it. Its council and wasps working togethet again

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Absolutely spot on
They may live to regret this I suspect

chiefdave said:

I'll struggle to travel to most games unless we do end up at the Butts or Rugby which I doubt but I'll be getting a season ticket anyway.

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The Butts? Absolutely no chance of that. It's going to be a ten thousand or under stadium. Plus CRFC are too astute these days.

WillenhallSkyBlues said:

Seen it all now haha, the sky blue express at the bottom is a weird thing to add

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One of the accounts used to push things. Blatant pr.