Legals Update This Week / SISU Lose chance to appeal (1 Viewer)

block16

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I don't think it's quiet. Is that some implication that this place is gutted sisu lost? Because I think your quite wrong. I hope it's the end and a deal is sorted to stay and Sisu either piss off and give someone else a go or go and build the stadium we need.
Didn’t mean to imply that at all just thought it’s pretty major news and was hoping somebody on here would have a better insight on what it means than myself
 

oucho

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I would think that the club will have to move first. Wasps can claim an open door in the absence of court cases having stated it on the record

So If we assume that the leagls are parked for now and given the EFL hearing later this month I think they have to at least go through the motions of trying to stay in the city.
Quite quiet on here considering how big the news is - anybody have any clue at all what happens now??

I think that there is some doubt that JR2 is indeed stone dead. Jr1 was definitively over when things got to this point but for some reason now the Euro courts are being mentioned. So perhaps without clarification from Sisu it's not clear that this particular set of legals is finished.


I don't think it's quiet. Is that some implication that this place is gutted sisu lost? Because I think your quite wrong. .

Tbf I don't think he was saying that.
 

oucho

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Didn’t mean to imply that at all just thought it’s pretty major news and was hoping somebody on here would have a better insight on what it means than myself

Call it "legal fatigue". Many including me, who once followed this closely, are long past bored of the whole repetitive saga and just want to fast forward to the end.
 

NorthernWisdom

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I think that there is some doubt that JR2 is indeed stone dead. Jr1 was definitively over when things got to this point but for some reason now the Euro courts are being mentioned. So perhaps without clarification from Sisu it's not clear that this particular set of legals is finished.
Doesn't really matter anyway. There'll be JR3, some other legal angle to go through, or a civil case to come.

This could carry on for years.
 

hill83

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clint van damme

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I think that there is some doubt that JR2 is indeed stone dead. Jr1 was definitively over when things got to this point but for some reason now the Euro courts are being mentioned. So perhaps without clarification from Sisu it's not clear that this particular set of legals is finished.




Tbf I don't think he was saying that.

There's a post in this thread by Offenham sky blue where he explains why he thinks it can't now go to the ECJ. I don't know if he's right but it seems to make some sense.
 

Magwitch

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Significant news today, two lots in fact. Was reported in the Times that playing at St.Andrews had been vetoed by the EFL as being too far significant as i would think it ruled out Walsall, Leicester, Northampton, also, then this no appeal decision from the Supreme Court which imo puts the ball firmly in our owners court. To me negotiating with Wasps to use the Ricoh is the only way forward, staying on the legal route I believe would erode any sympathy there may be from EFL members who have that EGM in nine days time.
 

Grendel

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Significant news today, two lots in fact. Was reported in the Times that playing at St.Andrews had been vetoed by the EFL as being too far significant as i would think it ruled out Walsall, Leicester, Northampton, also, then this no appeal decision from the Supreme Court which imo puts the ball firmly in our owners court. To me negotiating with Wasps to use the Ricoh is the only way forward, staying on the legal route I believe would erode any sympathy there may be from EFL members who have that EGM in nine days time.

Nowhere is ruled out. It’s purely to tick a box with the EFL to show that the club could do everything it could to find a home in the city but the club has been forced out.

So either wasps concede - which now they may well do - or we go to St Andrews
 

oucho

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Significant news today, two lots in fact. Was reported in the Times that playing at St.Andrews had been vetoed by the EFL as being too far significant as i would think it ruled out Walsall, Leicester, Northampton, also, then this no appeal decision from the Supreme Court which imo puts the ball firmly in our owners court. To me negotiating with Wasps to use the Ricoh is the only way forward, staying on the legal route I believe would erode any sympathy there may be from EFL members who have that EGM in nine days time.

My feelings exactly. It's not a pain free option to take CCFC out of Cov, it would cost Sisu a fortune as well as hitting Wasps on the pocket, so the best bet now is to suck up the decision, play nice, wait for Wasps to go under and then pick up the Ricoh on the cheap as part of the insolvency process. Would be better from a PR point of view and save SISU a lot of legal fee money into the bargain. Meanwhile the extra £££ Wasps earn from up will not come close to closing the funding gap and covering their massive losses.
 
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Magwitch

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Nowhere is ruled out. It’s purely to tick a box with the EFL to show that the club could do everything it could to find a home in the city but the club has been forced out.

So either wasps concede - which now they may well do - or we go to St Andrews
That might be wishful thinking on your behalf but according the Times St.Andrews has been rebuffed by the EFL as being too far away.
 

Grendel

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That might be wishful thinking on your behalf but according the Times St.Andrews has been rebuffed by the EFL as being too far away.

Nope it’s bollocks and as always you’ll be found wanting in this debate. The EFL is financially bankrupt and even the thought of legal action will terrify them.

The EFL will let the club go anywhere and the members will always stick together as it should be
 

Magwitch

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Are they ? This vote malarkey applies to its members 72 of them including us. The board will update the facts and the rule we have breached its members will vote on that. Where and why would any legal action affect the EFL. They are a competition with a rule book and within the F.A. If anyone feels any action the EFL take is not covered in its rules then the next step is the F.A doesn’t matter if it’s the EFL or the Coventry Minor League.
 

ccfcway

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Doesn't really matter anyway. There'll be JR3, some other legal angle to go through, or a civil case to come.

This could carry on for years.

will, not could. Why on earth would they walk away after 5 years of losing. I suspect we aren't even half way through yet.
 

Calista

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That might be wishful thinking on your behalf but according the Times St.Andrews has been rebuffed by the EFL as being too far away.

Was that in a later article or something? The short piece in this morning's paper only says "The Times has learnt that the 4,000-capacity Butts Park Arena in the city has emerged as a second ground-share option for Coventry along with Birmingham City’s St Andrew’s".

I most definiely do NOT want us to play in Birmingham, but as far as I can see it hasn't been ruled out.
 

shepardo01

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What has Duggins said? Was on CWR earlier apparently....??
Be intetesting to see if the Club or SISU comment on this .. or both?? And then interesting to see what is said....
Think this is the crossroads... but not sure which turning leads where!!??
 

Magwitch

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Was that in a later article or something? The short piece in this morning's paper only says "The Times has learnt that the 4,000-capacity Butts Park Arena in the city has emerged as a second ground-share option for Coventry along with Birmingham City’s St Andrew’s".

I most definiely do NOT want us to play in Birmingham, but as far as I can see it hasn't been ruled out.
It was OP on the thread BUTTS. Which reported what was apparently in theTimes, haven’t read it personally myself, don’t read Murdoch gutter press, but quoted what was said. Which was St. Andrews was disqualified due to being too far away.
 

Hobo

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Nope it’s bollocks and as always you’ll be found wanting in this debate. The EFL is financially bankrupt and even the thought of legal action will terrify them.

The EFL will let the club go anywhere and the members will always stick together as it should be

That may be the case but why should I drag my ass around the country so SISU can dick everyone around with their distress company tactics?

They are parasites on our football team.
 

RegTheDonk

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Significant news today, two lots in fact. Was reported in the Times that playing at St.Andrews had been vetoed by the EFL as being too far significant as i would think it ruled out Walsall, Leicester, Northampton, also, then this no appeal decision from the Supreme Court which imo puts the ball firmly in our owners court. To me negotiating with Wasps to use the Ricoh is the only way forward, staying on the legal route I believe would erode any sympathy there may be from EFL members who have that EGM in nine days time.
Is that right?

I'm not pleased the council and the insects see this as a victory, but hopefully it will enable SISU to gracefully back down and take a "commercially viable" rental deal while they go through the motions of pretending to build a new stadium.

Keeps us in town, keeps the EFL happy, and maybe by some miracle we get promoted on a shoe string and put up a decent effort in the Championship. I think the only way these gits will sell up is if we do climb to the top of a cycle...perhaps the only truthful thing Fisher has ever said. We won't do that in a shead miles outside of Cov.
 

Magwitch

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Well we imo are at a critical point,?to the outside world legals are over, kicked out by the highest court in the land, Wasps say they are open to negotiate re using the Ricoh. I think if Sepalla continues this legal route and somehow engineers a groundshare that’s us finished. What I would love to see now is our CCC say to our owner, here’s a parcel of land build your ground Joy, she’ll run for the hills.
 

chiefdave

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Well we imo are at a critical point,?to the outside world legals are over, kicked out by the highest court in the land, Wasps say they are open to negotiate re using the Ricoh. I think if Sepalla continues this legal route and somehow engineers a groundshare that’s us finished. What I would love to see now is our CCC say to our owner, here’s a parcel of land build your ground Joy, she’ll run for the hills.
Bit of an overreaction IMO to start throwing around things like we are finished. Was there actually anyone who thought SISU would win this? And was there anyone who though once they lost they wouldn't try taking it to Europe?
 

Magwitch

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If we move to another ground after this, when do we get back ? Something I pray the EFL demand an answer to as per rule book. How long do you think our supporters would travel to Brum for to watch us ?
 

Nick

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If we move to another ground after this, when do we get back ? Something I pray the EFL demand an answer to as per rule book. How long do you think our supporters would travel to Brum for to watch us ?

Oh look, somebody who doesn't bother when we play in Coventry getting worked up. Maybe you can go and watch Cov Utd with Captain Jack?
 

Magwitch

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Oh look, somebody who doesn't bother when we play in Coventry getting worked up. Maybe you can go and watch Cov Utd with Captain Jack?
Who doesn’t bother you no mark prick, don’t go every home game now can have unavoidable family commitments, but done over half now plus a number of away, how many do you need to go to to join your club.
 

oldfiver

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That might be wishful thinking on your behalf but according the Times St.Andrews has been rebuffed by the EFL as being too far away.

I assume you missed the other post on the Butts thread at 11.37am?

The EFL have effectively passed the decisions on if CCFC can play and where to their members.
 

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