New Statement from SISU re. Council (1 Viewer)

Skybluefaz said:

Find me one person who thinks they are blameless

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Terry Fisher?

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If Worcester win today I might do a little wee.

usskyblue said:

Elevenses innit

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And brunch?!

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Before SISU arrived our CEO Paul Fletcher who I think had just resigned stated that the council have the football club over a barrell and are holding them to ransom. Nothing much changed but how can we get the council investigated, the elections are not going to change anything. What about the BBC doing an in depth report into there behaviour or the government otherwise there going to get off Scot free!

One word leapt out at me in the SISU statement..."inexplicable"

They also found it inexplicable that the vast majority of fans didn't loyally follow the club to Northampton; that the courts have found against them time & again over this same thorn in CCFCs side; that they cannot get F&B rights from matchdays - maybe inexplicably, one day they will realise they are in the wrong business here?

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Really think the Trust should have organised candidates to stand in the local elections on a single issue basis. The inevitable poor turnout for such elections means a well organised campaign could easily win council seats. Charlton fans successfully did so in the past, to help push their return to the Valley, so it is not impossible, & it although it was a few years back the Trust's counterparts at Charlton should have been contacted to see how they went about their campaign.

Gynnsthetonic said:

Before SISU arrived our CEO Paul Fletcher who I think had just resigned stated that the council have the football club over a barrell and are holding them to ransom. Nothing much changed but how can we get the council investigated, the elections are not going to change anything. What about the BBC doing an in depth report into there behaviour or the government otherwise there going to get off Scot free!

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Likewise the Robins quote from when he left the first time, something along the lines of the council really needing to support the club, really shows its true meaning now. At the time I thought it was a bit of an odd remark when he had left supposedly due to a lack of assurances from the owners to come out swinging at the council, but it begins to make sense.

luwalla said:

Genuine question... knowing what we know now, about the council have been screwing the club over, what do we now think SISU have done wrong. And this isn’t a ‘Sisu are now great’ rhetorical question... as I have my answers! But I also have to admit that most of the things I thought they were to blame for, actually stem from the council screwing us over and the club trying to fight back I think

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Sisu of course are not great but they are a bi product of probably the only council in the country that fails to support and recognise its local sports teams

No wonder Schmeee has gone into hiding

Grendel said:

Sisu of course are not great but they are a bi product of probably the only council in the country that fails to support and recognise its local sports teams

No wonder Schmeee has gone into hiding

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It’s a fair question. Not the schmee one

I was eleven in 87 said:

This is the sort of information from SISU that us fans have been crying out for, for years!!
Whilst I know all sides have been shit I certainly would have had a lot more understanding of the saga if they had been producing this sort of information as they went along.
At least it’s forthcoming now.

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Sure its complete coincidence that now this information is coming out the trust have adopted a stance of ignoring everything that happened in the past.

JulianDarbyFTW said:

My post was meant to be slightly humourous, but it seems that wasn't clear. Out of interest, whose side would you prefer I was on?

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It’s not about taking sides, that’s the reason we find ourselves in this mess in the first place!

Nick said:

They are, they just aren't alone!

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Wise words
It seems some who now believe they are getting played by the council, suddenly also now believe SISU are on their side. What is it mentioned above "#teamsisu". I think some people could do with taking a deep breath and taking a step back.

Harryshipman1998 said:

Wise words
It seems some who now believe they are getting played by the council, suddenly also now believe SISU are on their side. What is it mentioned above "#teamsisu". I think some people could do with taking a deep breath and taking a step back.

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There are three protagonists in this story right now, and two of them want my club dead, so I make no apology for being on SISUs side here. I never though I'd see the day that a despised hedge fund cared more about our club than it's own city (i.e
Council) , but that day is here. So rather than 'take a deep breath and a step back' I'll happily nail my flag to the only mast that gives me a chance of having a club to support in 3 weeks time.

JulianDarbyFTW said:

There are three protagonists in this story right now, and two of them want my club dead, so I make no apology for being on SISUs side here. I never though I'd see the day that a despised hedge fund cared more about our club than it's own city (i.e
Council) , but that day is here. So rather than 'take a deep breath and a step back' I'll happily nail my flag to the only mast that gives me a chance of having a club to support in 3 weeks time.

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Fair play mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that SISU would liquidate us in the blink of an eye if it suited them personally. Its happens to not suit them at the moment. However the path they are choosing (groundshare) means league 2 football with the hope of the odd promotion followed by relegation back to league 2. I don't personally believe they care one iota about us and I for one will not support their actions or be hoodwinked that they have any intention of building a stadium.

Harryshipman1998 said:

Fair play mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that SISU would liquidate us in the blink of an eye if it suited them personally. Its happens to not suit them at the moment. However the path they are choosing (groundshare) means league 2 football with the hope of the odd promotion followed by relegation back to league 2. I don't personally believe they care one iota about us and I for one will not support their actions or be hoodwinked that they have any intention of building a stadium.

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Are you looking forward to the game tomorrow?

Harryshipman1998 said:

Fair play mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that SISU would liquidate us in the blink of an eye if it suited them personally. Its happens to not suit them at the moment. However the path they are choosing (groundshare) means league 2 football with the hope of the odd promotion followed by relegation back to league 2. I don't personally believe they care one iota about us and I for one will not support their actions or be hoodwinked that they have any intention of building a stadium.

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There not a dogs knob of a chance they will liquidate us as they will have nowhere to hide their deficits in the books if we don’t exist

Nick said:

Did you enjoy the game today?

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Corrected

Harryshipman1998 said:

Fair play mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that SISU would liquidate us in the blink of an eye if it suited them personally. Its happens to not suit them at the moment.

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The only reason liquidation becomes a viable option, ie: the route that will give them the greatest return, is that there is now no chance the club and stadium will be united. Up until the point the council sold the stadium there was value in taking over the club.

Now we are the least attractive takeover target in the country.

Said it many times before. Up to the point the stadium was sold all the damage done by SISU was reversible. That single act from the council is the one that will damage the club for decades to come.

Breakfast, Lunch, dinner.

Nick said:

Are you looking forward to the game tomorrow?

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Very nervous to be honest. Wish we had a gentleman's agreement for JCH not to play he will be fired up and bully us. As long as we can get two we will be alright. Just hope Thomas has now found his scoring boots. Also very annoyed it's on a Sunday as it curtails the warm lager drinking a bit. How about yourself?

Warwickhunt said:

There not a dogs knob of a chance they will liquidate us as they will have nowhere to hide their deficits in the books if we don’t exist

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I agree mate, but that's not the point I am making. If it did suit them for whatever reason that wouldn't hesitate. They don't care about us, so I am not currently #teamsisu.

chiefdave said:

The only reason liquidation becomes a viable option, ie: the route that will give them the greatest return, is that there is now no chance the club and stadium will be united. Up until the point the council sold the stadium there was value in taking over the club.

Now we are the least attractive takeover target in the country.

Said it many times before. Up to the point the stadium was sold all the damage done by SISU was reversible. That single act from the council is the one that will damage the club for decades to come.

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You might be right, however my point is, if for any reason it suited SISU to liquidate us, move us to London whatever it is. If they could and were allowed to do it they would do it. They have in my opinion absolutely no concern about CCFC or us fans. So backing SISU is a no for me, I also find it strange that anyone would after the history we have experienced

Harryshipman1998 said:

Wise words
It seems some who now believe they are getting played by the council, suddenly also now believe SISU are on their side. What is it mentioned above "#teamsisu". I think some people could do with taking a deep breath and taking a step back.

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You certainly should (take a step back).

Harryshipman1998 said:

You might be right, however my point is, if for any reason it suited SISU to liquidate us, move us to London whatever it is. If they could and were allowed to do it they would do it. They have in my opinion absolutely no concern about CCFC or us fans. So backing SISU is a no for me, I also find it strange that anyone would after the history we have experienced

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History since Tuesday when you joined the forum,

MalcSB said:

History since Tuesday when you joined the forum,

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Ah Tuesday when time began

Harryshipman1998 said:

Ah Tuesday when time began

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SISU propaganda has gone into overdrive now. Don't believe for a second the lying scumbags ever wanted to build a stadium.......They should have just left their spin at the ' council were talking to Wasps in 2012' line.. .on that side of things they were winning...,.not the stadium myth !!

luwalla said:

What action would you like them to take... again, genuine question. ?

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Bidding for land
Dropping the legals

Ask yourself what constructive things they have actually done in the 6 years since talk of a new ground started. Fuck all, and it took FOI requests to demonstrate that Tim was bullshitting the first time round. Tokenistic enquiries at the Council don't prove anything and long bitchy statements in the press don't get anything done either.

Easy for the council to prove its a myth or not, show support for a new stadium and call Sisu’s bluff, if that is what it is. From what council have said, they don’t believe Sisu are serious so a low risk strategy.

MalcSB said:

Easy for the council to prove its a myth or not, show support for a new stadium and call Sisu’s bluff, if that is what it is. From what council have said, they don’t believe Sisu are serious so a low risk strategy.

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This is the other problem-no mark local politicians trying to overstep their authority and look hard to get votes. Embarrassingly trying to flog Wasps tickets while ignoring the clubs who have been in this city for donkeys years. Bizarre references to Pearl Harbour thrown in for good measure

Cavan O'Doherty said:

To hear from some that “they’re on their side now” is ludicrous. Some people seem to have swallowed the rubbish that the Sisu PR machine is churning out far too easily. By no means are Sisu the only party to blame, but to be on their side after all they’ve done to us is very fickle indeed.

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You didn’t get the sarcasm then.
Anybody who sided with anyone here is thick. Every side is to blame. The majority know this and the majority side with the team. Not SISU, not wasps, not ccc.

Harryshipman1998 said:

You might be right, however my point is, if for any reason it suited SISU to liquidate us, move us to London whatever it is. If they could and were allowed to do it they would do it. They have in my opinion absolutely no concern about CCFC or us fans. So backing SISU is a no for me, I also find it strange that anyone would after the history we have experienced

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The history that doesn’t appear to be as clear as it was? They are not great, but I feel lessons have been learnt. The council on the other hand seem he’ll bent on destroying us, it is all about money and power and sod the city’s own football club, in favour of a London rugby team

Harryshipman1998 said:

Very nervous to be honest. Wish we had a gentleman's agreement for JCH not to play he will be fired up and bully us. As long as we can get two we will be alright. Just hope Thomas has now found his scoring boots. Also very annoyed it's on a Sunday as it curtails the warm lager drinking a bit. How about yourself?

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You need to work on building your authority up a little, it’s still too painfully obvious.

smileycov said:

The history that doesn’t appear to be as clear as it was? They are not great, but I feel lessons have been learnt. The council on the other hand seem he’ll bent on destroying us, it is all about money and power and sod the city’s own football club, in favour of a London rugby team

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No issues with your comment on the Council. They clearly favour Wasps over SISU which in turn hurts us as a by product.
SISU have learnt lessons?
Have they? Can you show a single tangible thing that SISU have learnt.
They were releasing statements like this last time we were building a stadium. Last time we were suing the people we needed help from.
I see no change at all. SISU in my opinion are exactly the same as always.
No support for them from me.