Brighton Sky Blue
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Oh dear
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Oh dear
NorthernWisdom
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I'd genuinely love to know why Plan A was staying at the Ricoh until not so long ago, and now Plan A has morphed into 'we've been trying to build a stadium for X amount of time, but keep getting unreasonably delayed'.
It's all running remarkably similarly to last time out as far as I can see.
chiefdave
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No I don't which is why I want them called out on it. Expose them instead of dicking around giving them an ever increasing amount of ammunition to take to the EFL.
Brighton Sky Blue
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We will all be dead from having to consume this much bullshit from all parties.
Nick Eastwood said he had no issue with the legals and could separate club from owner. Now he can't.
The Council claim to have had no prior contact with Wasps pre-sale and that SISU made no enquiries for a new ground. They also claimed that a pathway to ownership existed as late as August 2014. Turns out they were lying.
SISU claimed to have had sites and plans for a new ground drawn up in 2013. Then they embarked on the plan to bust ACL and get it on the cheap. That didn't work so it's back to trying to bust Wasps from the legals and get the Ricoh on the cheap. But it's now also been the plan to build a ground at Woodlands despite no more than an enquiry taking place in 6 years since the new ground talk began.
Honestly fuck the lot of them, I thought our problems couldn't get worse than Magnus Hedman getting tackled by Phil Jevons 40 yards from goal. How wrong I was
NorthernWisdom
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I miss the days of discussing if Dean Gordon had a good game at the weekend (he never did!)
Captain Dart
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Do you believe SISU are genuine about building a stadium?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Or wondering if Dean Holdsworth would ever find the net in a league game
Liquid Gold
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It's a win win for the council. Give them the option on the site and if they build a stadium then you redevelop part of the city. If they don't they don't then they can't fall back to the EFL with their sob story.
Why would any city fan be against speeding this up?
Why would any city fan be against speeding this up?
NorthernWisdom
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Brighton Sky Blue
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I will abseil it in a Wasps kit
Liquid Gold
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And I'll finish the opening ceremony with a rousing rendition of the vengabus.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Actually in honour of its former use maybe some schoolboys could call Fisher a prick
vow
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Amended for you.
Brighton Sky Blue
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win9nut
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Sorry I misread your post! I thought it said the plan came before the offer, hence my strange reply!
Fergusons_Beard
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Sorry FP-I meant that Wasps seemed to have planning done and dusted with no effort yet SISU are having difficulties right at the beginning.
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skybluetony176
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I want SISU to drop the pointless litigation. That will sort it out overnight. I won’t indulge SISU in the continuing saga of imagination stadium. Like the majority of our fans I want these things because I want it resolved in the quickest possible way and possibly the only possible way. I think you’ll find that you’re in the minority you talk about not me.
skybluetony176
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Exactly.
Ricketts
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pusbccfc
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Maybe at a local level, but I'd be absolutely blown away if that was the case for national.
skybluetony176
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Are you talking about the council or SISU? It equally applies to both as I’ve already pointed out. You seem unwilling to acknowledge though that SISU started dicking around over two years ago with the woodlands site when they first identified it for another purpose. As NW has pointed out not that long ago staying at the Ricoh was plan A and now it’s all of a sudden we’ve been trying to build a stadium from a period predating plan A. If you want to make dicking around a competition which you clearly do there’s only one winner when it comes the length of time.
Fergusons_Beard
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Yet you keep repeating the same old shit about two sheets of paper.
I’m interested to know whether you actually want a new stadium or not?
Does it really matter how we get there just as long as we do?
Don’t we all want a stadium that we can call our own and reap all the financial benefits of owning our own stadium?
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skybluetony176
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I’d love either a new stadium (traditional not bowl, 25K capacity so a proper HR2) or ownership of the Ricoh. Neither are going to happen under SISU though unless someone dies and leaves the Ricoh to them in their will.
Of course it matters how we get there. There’s only one way to do it and it starts with the intention of doing it. We’re not there regardless of how Dave tries to sell it.
SBAndy
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So SISU drop the legals, opening up avenues of conversation with both Wasps and CCC. Wasps say “£1m a year please” and CCC decide they don’t want to sell the land. And then what’s the point.
This is why CD is suggesting the council should commit to talks. All of a sudden that’s one condition of dropping the legals almost there. Then Wasps agree a provisional tenancy. Condition 2 partially met. And then if SISU opt to continue their legal action its fucking evident to everyone.
skybluetony176
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It’s pointless. That’s the point. It’s a barrier for the club. That’s the point. Dropping them is the only possible way the club will ever benefit from them. That’s the point. All the legals not just the current round have never done anything other than damage the club. That’s the point. That’s what should be evident to everyone.
SBAndy
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And now you’ve stated that, I’m sure SISU will just drop them. You need to be pragmatic about the situation. Will SISU decide tomorrow that the legal route isn’t the best to take? No. Have they made it clear (in the public eye at least) what their expectations are in order for them to drop the legal action? Yes. Would either CCC or Wasps talking to the club on a provisional basis cause them any further issues? No. In which case, get on with it.
Grendel
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Why bother - it’s beyond his pay grade
fernandopartridge
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I asked him earlier, he missed it again though.
skybluetony176
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Same reason.
skybluetony176
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Of course they won’t and I’m not suggesting they will. It’s history repeating. SISU doing the same things expecting different results. This is just the same loop as last time, I expect the same results. When we’ve got to 360 degrees we’ll be infinitely worse off than we were at 0 degrees. Same as last time. Rinse and repeat.
hopesprings
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But it will not be our stadium it will be SISSU's able to charge what rent they want and keep all the revenue they want. It will NOT be owned by CCFC..... even if it ever got built.
win9nut
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Plan A is still the Ricoh, just not for the long term....
win9nut
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That don't really matter though... SISU will be responsible for the clubs losses... It only matters when SISU come to divest. But then who would be mad enough to buy a club without a stadium these days...
SBAndy
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You say you know they won’t drop the legal action, but actively discourage the council in partaking in something that SISU have made clear would result in the dropping of the legal action. Honestly, you’ve lost me.
