Ground share will be a disaster (1 Viewer)

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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St Andrews and a new ground in 3 years time is the ideal situation as far as I'm concerned. Sick of Wasps, CCC etc. Can't even be arsed to wait until they go pop. New ground, new start.
Likelihood = ??????
Total disaster . It will be the end of Coventry City FC.
 

MTK

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If we are playing out of Coventry, I won’t renew my season ticket. I’ll go to some games - frequency depending on where we are. Likely to go more often if it’s Birmingham than say, Milton Keynes. I might go to more away games than currently, assuming I can get tickets. If I see actual evidence a new stadium is being built, I’d probably start looking to the future and going to our ground share games more often. I’m just deeply sceptical about this new ground in Coventry when the Ricoh and a presumably redeveloped Butts are already here. I feel like SISI have picked whatever parcel of Council owned land it is for their preferred site, knowing it will be the most tricky and therefore the most lengthy to work through to fruition. And after the revelations last week, I kind of don’t blame them although surprised to be saying that! I just hate being stuck in the middle of it all - I just want to watch my team at The Ricoh.
 

Magwitch

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Of all the sites out lined in the Telegraph Hearsall Common is by far the most suitable covers almost all bases, accessibility, easy walk up from town, good public transport, station nearby, few houses anywhere near, good road links, parking in the nearby industrial estate and probably the cheapest option when you start talking roads and site preparation. Would also be the perfect test to see how genuine our owner is for her wish for stadium and ccc come to that. It’ is common land to put that as an obstacle is bollox most of it can be kept green. I also think it could be up and running well before three years, perhaps our trust can grow a pair or two and ask ccc publically if not, why not.
 
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higgs

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Is st Andrews ground far from Birmingham airport?

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Great_Expectations

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Moving grounds is obviously a worst case scenario. I doubt even SISU would want to move, bearing in mind the detrimental impact it would likely have on income, and therefore more cost for them to cover. Unfortunately, we are at a point when the club has been used a chess piece and it’s about to fall off the board. I personally still can’t get over the actions of CCC.

Potential silver lining; wherever we move to, at least the pitch will be better than the Ricoh....
 

higgs

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Moving grounds is obviously a worst case scenario. I doubt even SISU would want to move, bearing in mind the detrimental impact it would likely have on income, and therefore more cost for them to cover. Unfortunately, we are at a point when the club has been used a chess piece and it’s about to fall off the board. I personally still can’t get over the actions of CCC.

Potential silver lining; wherever we move to, at least the pitch will be better than the Ricoh....
Can't see anyone backing down now unfortunately

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Magwitch

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Moving grounds is obviously a worst case scenario. I doubt even SISU would want to move, bearing in mind the detrimental impact it would likely have on income, and therefore more cost for them to cover. Unfortunately, we are at a point when the club has been used a chess piece and it’s about to fall off the board. I personally still can’t get over the actions of CCC.

Potential silver lining; wherever we move to, at least the pitch will be better than the Ricoh....
 

ccfcway

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Of all the sites out lined in the Telegraph Hearsall Common is by far the most suitable covers almost all bases, accessibility, easy walk up from town, good public transport, station nearby, few houses anywhere near, good road links, parking in the nearby industrial estate and probably the cheapest option when you start talking roads and site preparation. Would also be the perfect test to see how genuine our owner is for her wish for stadium and ccc come to that. It’ is common land to put that as an obstacle is bollox most of it can be kept green. I also think it could be up and running well before three years, perhaps our trust can grow a pair or two and ask ccc publically if not, why not.

The road network would be a mess before and after a game
 

Magwitch

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Despite Boddy announcing there are options and I’m not doubting him the extra cost to our owner will be significant, loss of turnstile revenue alone then there’s policing etc. and for how long ? She needs to be very confident of eventually winning this court case.
 

christonabike

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Ah yes the 2 mile exclusion zone. You can’t park within 2 miles so they build a huge car park on site for visiting fans to the arena. Then Wasps want to build a swanky hotel so CCC bend over and say “ why not build it in car park C” taking away parking spaces and basically saying fuck you to supporters.
That’s the council we all know and love!
 

stupot07

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Another temporary groundshare would be a disaster, but the alternative of being expelled from the league and going out of business would be catastrophic.

Depending on distance, I actually think more would go than went to Sixfields last time.

However, my money is still on another short term deal at the ricoh.

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ccfcway

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And the Ricoh isn’t ? and that’s with its 2 mile exclusion zone, which I assume any new stadium will have.

Ricoh has a two lane road and is less than a mile from m6. Maybe just me but can’t see how the road from town and the roads out to a45 would in anyway be geared up to cater for the traffic on heresall common
 

theferret

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What I want to see is rock solid evidence that SiSU have been/ are engaged in looking for land to build a stadium.
If they can convince me that they have genuinely been blocked by the council I might consider watching city out of Coventry. As things are, no .

This is key I think. If, before the start of next season, a site is identified and we see plans progressed (ideally in the form of a planning application), I think many people will go with it for a season to see how things progress, even if just the odd game. In the absence of that, it would be a very difficult call.
 

Magwitch

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Ricoh has a two lane road and is less than a mile from m6. Maybe just me but can’t see how the road from town and the roads out to a45 would in anyway be geared up to cater for the traffic on heresall common
I live in the vacinity of the Ricoh and I can assure you especially after a game it’s congested in all direction for an hour or so and I don’t think that many go via the M6. At Hearsall a lot would walk from town, don’t happen at the minute.
 

better days

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For what it's worth the players and staff aren't really talking about this issue and expect a deal to emerge for the Ricoh eventually
I suppose we're all the same when we're working for a firm and there are rumours of a move of premises, you just get on with your job
 
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Remember sisu expect the club to generate its own income from tickets, player sales etc. They wont put any money into the club so moving us away from the ricoh with a similar crowd to the Northampton fiasco will not generate the money to buy players to improve the squad for a push next season.

If we move away from Coventry then expect to be back in league two within two seasons and Robins gone
 

Captain Dart

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Ricoh has a two lane road and is less than a mile from m6. Maybe just me but can’t see how the road from town and the roads out to a45 would in anyway be geared up to cater for the traffic on heresall common
I got the sense from their statements that SISU want CCC to stump up money for road improvements (or is that another wrinkle to hang the uncooperative label on them).
Sisu say they are willing to drop legal action against Coventry City Council if the authority agrees to "a stadium development supported by the Council in Coventry with enabling development on reasonable terms".
 

fernandopartridge

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Last time a 15000 home attendance give or take dropped to 2or3k, came back to the Ricoh and it struggled back to 7kish. We have just got it back to around 10000 home fans on a regular basis. Gates will be back down to a couple of thousand pretty quickly in my opinion
. Question, who subsidises us and for how long.

As I posted the other day the average immediately before Northampton was 10900 ish. It was 9k ish on the first season back. You make up so much bollocks it is unreal.
 

fernandopartridge

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Of all the sites out lined in the Telegraph Hearsall Common is by far the most suitable covers almost all bases, accessibility, easy walk up from town, good public transport, station nearby, few houses anywhere near, good road links, parking in the nearby industrial estate and probably the cheapest option when you start talking roads and site preparation. Would also be the perfect test to see how genuine our owner is for her wish for stadium and ccc come to that. It’ is common land to put that as an obstacle is bollox most of it can be kept green. I also think it could be up and running well before three years, perhaps our trust can grow a pair or two and ask ccc publically if not, why not.
Yet more bollocks, it is common land
 

usskyblue

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If we’re to stay at the Ricoh someone has to back down. And that doesn’t look like happening.

If we’re still a going concern a ground share (rumours are it’s Brum) is the only option.

It then becomes another ‘long game’ with Wasps/Council. More will go than attended Northampton given the information spilled this week...although, granted it’ll still cost SISU financially. However, if they can float the long game then why would it be the end of the club? I don’t get the ‘death of the club’ attitude.
 
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christonabike

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Exactly if we can hold out for 2 years I think Wasps will be about to pay the bond back and have more debt due to a 1 team arena with low attendances.
 

chiefdave

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How the club handle it will be a factor as well. Last time everyone was left to sort themselves out, hopefully they learn from that mistake and make sure there's coaches running as cheaply as possible.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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This is going to piss people off but I don't care.

No one should go . There should be a total boycott, of all "home" games including cup matches.

SISU did this to Coventry supporters before and they will do it again. They have no respect for supporters and use the club as leverage, though I wonder whether in fact they need to hang on the football club at all whilst pursuing court action. They could sell it and still take court action in the way that they are, but they chose not to.
If no one goes then no doubt it will damage to club but we can't go on like this. If enough people go to make it almost pay it's way then we could be out of Coventry for years. There is no evidence whatsoever of plans for a stadium and why would that change if SISU can ship us out and stay afloat in league 2 or lower on a shoestring budget, ticking over while they pursue their own selfish interests. There is no reassurance of any sort that we will ever return if we leave at the end of this season.
It should be made clear to CCFC that the supporters will not back the club to move out of the City .We are not supporters of CCC of Wasps but will not feed money into a scheme that is morally wrong and that simply puts the club on an indefinite life support machine with SISU's fingers on the button, holding it's supporters and any other interested parties to ransom. If you chose to go to Birmingham, Rugby, MK (think what they have done) Burton Albion etc then you're telling SISU that it's okay . You're endorsing their actions. Simple as that.
 

Garryb80

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This is going to piss people off but I don't care.

No one should go . There should be a total boycott, of all "home" games including cup matches.

SISU did this to Coventry supporters before and they will do it again. They have no respect for supporters and use the club as leverage, though I wonder whether in fact they need to hang on the football club at all whilst pursuing court action. They could sell it and still take court action in the way that they are, but they chose not to.
If no one goes then no doubt it will damage to club but we can't go on like this. If enough people go to make it almost pay it's way then we could be out of Coventry for years. There is no evidence whatsoever of plans for a stadium and why would that change if SISU can ship us out and stay afloat in league 2 or lower on a shoestring budget, ticking over while they pursue their own selfish interests. There is no reassurance of any sort that we will ever return if we leave at the end of this season.
It should be made clear to CCFC that the supporters will not back the club to move out of the City .We are not supporters of CCC of Wasps but will not feed money into a scheme that is morally wrong and that simply puts the club on an indefinite life support machine with SISU's fingers on the button, holding it's supporters and any other interested parties to ransom. If you chose to go to Birmingham, Rugby, MK (think what they have done) Burton Albion etc then you're telling SISU that it's okay . You're endorsing their actions. Simple as that.
So to clarify then your not going?
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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What if we get to Wembley or draw Man Utd in the cup?
No. Absolutely not. Had enough of our supporters being treated this way. On the other hand I might do away games just to make another statement. We need zero fans at our "home" ground and a full house at every away match. It says something.
 

ccfcway

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So if we play home games at burton you wouldnt go, but the away game at burton you’d go to ?
 

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