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Isn't it amazing how many people are taking wasps word? Almost as if they are immune to bullshitting.

cc84cov said:

Tomorrow afternoon is the deadline can’t see how anything postive will be announced by then tbh...

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Have you never dared to play a "Game of Chicken"?

This situation is testing my patience.
I had a hell tof a job hanging in after the Northampton fiasco caused entirely by my clubs owners and we are entering the same territory here once again. Willfully and knowing what the outcome will be.
I say all of them can go to hell but I reserve a special place at the top table for Sisu.
I have no space in my heart for any other team but I absolutely hate my club at the moment. The lack of contrition is mind boggling, they should be at our feet asking for forgiveness.
How some on here can spin this any other way is testament to the power of spin and bullshit that sure does baffle brains.

riyadhskyblue said:

This situation is testing my patience.
I had a hell tof a job hanging in after the Northampton fiasco caused entirely by my clubs owners and we are entering the same territory here once again. Willfully and knowing what the outcome will be.
I say all of them can go to hell but I reserve a special place at the top table for Sisu.
I have no space in my heart for any other team but I absolutely hate my club at the moment. The lack of contrition is mind boggling, they should be at our feet asking for forgiveness.
How some on here can spin this any other way is testament to the power of spin and bullshit that sure does baffle brains.

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Why would you hate the club? Hate the owners yes not the club.

riyadhskyblue said:

I have no space in my heart for any other team but I absolutely hate my club at the moment.

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Fook me, do a flounce by all means, but hating the club?!

Could never comprehend that.

Liquid Gold said:

Does anybody think we shouldn't be looking at options when the owners of the only stadium we can realistically play in won't talk to us?

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If someone was taking you to court would you invite them to stay in your home ?

covboy1987 said:

Odds on it's going to be Nuneaton
1. It probably just works within the 6 mile Coventry boundary
2. somehow it might save Nuneaton as a football team who are currently in trouble
Myself and mates will not be going to any ground other our home ground the Rioch - didn't go to Northampton and certainly will not be going to Nuneaton and also this time not going to any away matches - had enough of all this

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If this happens again its a nail in the coffin of the club. Sisu would rather have us playing outside the city at a ground not fit for a club like us and is a kick in the teeth to the fans and players a like playing at a tin pot ground rather than dropping this rediculous legal battle that they have no chance of winning.

Sisu dont give a toss about the club, its history or the fans and fish face is laughing at us all

marcusp said:

If someone was taking you to court would you invite them to stay in your home ?

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You never heard of "keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer"? :emoji_money_mouth:

The Philosopher said:

Having nerdily re-read the EFL ground criteria, I think CCFC have to have a ground with 2000 seats & a 5000 overall capacity.

This rules out Nuneaton & Hinckley. Rugby is possible with a bit of adjustment, the Butts. With a temporary stand.

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Which ever way you look at it a move to a tin pot ground is an insult and a kick in the teeth to the fans and club. Perhaps it suits sisu as Fisher said we couldnt afford to be in the championship so staying in league 1 or two playing at a ground with a 5000 capicity would suit as the budget for players would be less and the attendencies would reflect this

marcusp said:

If someone was taking you to court would you invite them to stay in your home ?

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It's nowhere near that simple and trying to paint it like that makes you look like an idiot.

chiefdave said:

Depends who the owners are. What if it was a consortium of local businessmen and someone who just happened to own a ground.

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Like Mr Smurf perhaps ?

marcusp said:

If someone was taking you to court would you invite them to stay in your home ?

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I dunno, but if I bought a house in secret, with a sitting tenant that was in the midst of a huge and well-publicised legal dispute with the previous owner, then I wouldn't be surprised if I somehow got caught up in the middle of it.

Would anyone else like to mask an apology for the franchise behind a stretched analogy, it's quite good fun this...

How many season ticket holders do we have?

Controversial and not what I want but.... is there not a twisted logic to having a smaller stadium, relatively local, that if packed every game could bring further success on the pitch?

"While the current impasse remains, with Wasps choosing not to enter negotiations, the management has a responsibility to the club and its future"

management........what about the owners "responsibility to the club and its future" ?

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:

If we at outside of Coventry we won't need more than a 2000 capacity.

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It's about league requirements not guessing how many would go.

riyadhskyblue said:

This situation is testing my patience.
I had a hell tof a job hanging in after the Northampton fiasco caused entirely by my clubs owners and we are entering the same territory here once again. Willfully and knowing what the outcome will be.
I say all of them can go to hell but I reserve a special place at the top table for Sisu.
I have no space in my heart for any other team but I absolutely hate my club at the moment. The lack of contrition is mind boggling, they should be at our feet asking for forgiveness.
How some on here can spin this any other way is testament to the power of spin and bullshit that sure does baffle brains.

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Absolutely understandable. I heard Clive talking to Dave Boddy tonight on CWR and some of the questions he put to Mr Body seemed to be as if DB was part of SISU directly. There's a fine line between the distinction between CCFC and SISU and this line of approach doesn't help.

mark82 said:

It's about league requirements not guessing how many would go.

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The league requirements for capacity will be far above the number that will attend. That's relevant. I am guessing how many will go, but I won't be far off.

shmmeee said:

Receipts please.

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Was going to comment earlier but had to get to a meeting. I was of the same impression as you but I've seen it with my own eyes now. It's ridiculous. I'll try to find some later if I get chance.

covboy1987 said:

Odds on it's going to be Nuneaton
1. It probably just works within the 6 mile Coventry boundary
2. somehow it might save Nuneaton as a football team who are currently in trouble
Myself and mates will not be going to any ground other our home ground the Rioch - didn't go to Northampton and certainly will not be going to Nuneaton and also this time not going to any away matches - had enough of all this

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It will not be Nuneaton.

Surely if this 6 mile "rule " is true it will be from the centre of Cov round about the cathedral.
1. Nuneaton is 10 miles from the centre of Cov
2 6 miles from the centre of Cov surely takes you beyond the City boundary in any direction. Very odd.

If the 6 mile rule turns out to be bollocks, then I would prefer us to ground share with Birmingham City, if we end up at Nuneaton we may miss out on some quality signings.

Trouble is we never get to see what is written down in terms conditions like the 6 miles. We have to rely on verbal comments from interested but untrustworthy parties

There is no efl regulation requiring it and the condition surely applied to a return to Coventry from 30 miles away. What could the efl do if it is outside the city? They won't chuck us out if we are able to fulfill the fixtures

The EFL could really open up a can of worms if we're expelled. How many clubs rent their ground? There are a few, for sure. So in theory, all of those clubs could reach an impasse with the landlord (more likely based on rent than legal action, but still) and be in this position. Setting a precedent like this would be a very dangerous game.

Think it is from the centre of Cov, Ryton on Dunsmore as an example is 5.9 miles from Broadgate, Meriden 7 miles as the crow flies. The only ground as I can see suitable other than the Ricoh is BPA

Alan Dugdales Moustache said:

Absolutely understandable. I heard Clive talking to Dave Boddy tonight on CWR and some of the questions he put to Mr Body seemed to be as if DB was part of SISU directly. There's a fine line between the distinction between CCFC and SISU and this line of approach doesn't help.

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There really isn't

Nick said:

Isn't it amazing how many people are taking wasps word? Almost as if they are immune to bullshitting.

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We don’t trust our hedge fund, but we trust their hedge fund...

If Wasps were to come out and say ‘we’ll negotiate, but we won’t actually agree to a long term lease until litigation is dropped’, I’d say that is more reasonable. Refusal to negotiate at all until litigation is dropped leaves in a potentially very vulnerable position because there would be nothing stopping Wasps refusing to negotiate and/or low balling our club.

Now, I’m not saying they would completely screw the club over if this happened. But, I wouldn’t give up my leverage before negotiations even began. We’re already in a weak enough position!

This whole ‘the simple thing to do’ argument is a bit naive in my view. I don’t trust SISU, Wasps, ACL or the Council. Ultimately, Cov staying at the RICOH benefits everyone, even Wasps, so it would be irrational to force the club out of the City. I believe something will get done.

Swayze said:

How many season ticket holders do we have?

Controversial and not what I want but.... is there not a twisted logic to having a smaller stadium, relatively local, that if packed every game could bring further success on the pitch?

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If we could downsize to a 17-23k stadium that would be good in the long term. But, again, we would’ve been far better off remaining at Highfield Road. If only we had a time machine!

Swayze said:

How many season ticket holders do we have?

Controversial and not what I want but.... is there not a twisted logic to having a smaller stadium, relatively local, that if packed every game could bring further success on the pitch?

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That’s what I said about playing at the butts, I believe a packed out butts park arena would be better then the Ricoh. I would welcome the butts especially in our situation

Mucca Mad Boys said:

If we could downsize to a 17-23k stadium that would be good in the long term. But, again, we would’ve been far better off remaining at Highfield Road. If only we had a time machine!

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id go back and drop Simon Haworth for the Sheff Utd away FA Cup game

Corrado said:

That’s what I said about playing at the butts, I believe a packed out butts park arena would be better then the Ricoh. I would welcome the butts especially in our situation

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Frankly, I like the idea of building a up the Butts to about 12-15k at the minute. But, that’s only really suitable if we’re in L1, when really, we should be aiming for the Championship.

ccfcway said:

id go back and drop Simon Haworth for the Sheff Utd away FA Cup game

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Hahaha I think I’m too young to get the reference matey!

Nick said:

Yes, because then the club will be handed over to Hoffman.

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Nick why are Wasps so worried about SISU legals .? They haven’t done anything wrong have they? Headlines of “London Wasps throw Coventry City Football Club out of the Coventry Ricoh Stadium”. Has such a lovely ring about it

Warwickhunt said:

Nick why are Wasps so worried about SISU legals .? They haven’t done anything wrong have they?

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not defending or having a go at anyone here, but if someone was taking me to court because I bought a house that was for sale on one hand and asking to rent the same house on the other, yer, not happening....

ccfcway said:

not defending or having a go at anyone here, but if someone was taking me to court because I bought a house that was for sale on one hand and asking to rent the same house on the other, yer, not happening....

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Oh just fuck off

How come the 6 mile 'rule' didn't apply when we was at sixfields?