Poll: How long will Trump be President? (3 Viewers)

Poll: How long will Trump be President?

  • Up to 1 year (inaugurated 20 Jan 2017)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Up to 2 years

    Votes: 6 40.0%
  • Up to 3 years

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Up to 4 years (fulll term)

    Votes: 4 26.7%
  • 2 full terms (8 years)

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .

chiefdave

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The interesting part of the article for me was at the bottom where they list the people connected to investigations. 6 pleaded guilty, 1 convicted, 26 charged and awaiting trial.
And also what sort of details are they handing over in return for lenient sentencing. These aren't hardened criminals for whom a couple of years inside would be nothing. They are people who will do anything they can to avoid ending up inside.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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He isn’t making the point that you think he’s making. That’s the joke. You are willingly and unwittingly being the punch line.

Frankly you would look less ridiculous if you admitted that you didn’t realise that it was a spoof.

In that particular video, he’s not criticising Trump, per se, but he’s criticising the liberal left in their use of identity politics. He’s debated Owen Jones (I’m a fan of both) on political correctness and criticised identity politics in other videos. I’m a fan of Jonathan Pie.

Frankly, this video touches on the reason why Trump won. Hillary didn’t offer anything to blue collar working class people in ‘rust belt’ states, which traditionally vote Democrat. Her electoral coalition offered something to everyone apart from this demographic. In fact, Clinton didn’t even bother to campaign in Wisconsin and Michigan and ended up losing them states, they hadn’t voted Republican since Reagan. 6/10 voters felt it was ‘important’ for a presidential candidate offered ‘change’ and 80% of those who answered this way voted Trump. Clinton failed to defend the record of Obama or of American capitalism, which was perceived to be failing ordinary people in 2016. How else can we explain the rise of Sanders in the Democratic Party and Trump in the Republican Party? They were ‘change’ candidates. Sanders lead Trump by larger margins than Clinton and also seemed popular with white, working-class voters. The very demographic that made a Trump presidency possible.

In wake of Trump’s win, you have this blame game from liberals about FBI probes, Russian interference, or ‘subconscious biases’ against women (many liberals actually believe this) and all sorts of excuses as to why Clinton lost. The reality is, the problems are closer to home. The same people who voted Obama in 2012, and/or were willing to vote for Sanders (a Jewishness socialist) over Trump can’t be described as this homogenous mob of angry, racist, xenophobic white people, as it was framed by some.

If I was an American voter, I would have very reluctantly voted for Clinton, but she was a terrible candidate to run v Trump and her campaign was lazy and complacent. Take a second to compare the campaign slogans: Clinton’s ‘I’m With Her’ versus Trump’s ‘Male America Great Again’ is quite telling.

A few Jonathan Pie videos for context:



 
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Otis

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That main kid just stands there really close, obviously trying to intimidate the poor old bloke. Fair play to him for continuing unabated.
 

Grendel

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I don't know why this thread is still going. The question is 'how long will Trump be president' and the answer has always been and continues to be, far too long.

That’s oddly down to people who vote in America to decide
 

Grendel

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Oh. Sorry. I thought I was allowed an opinion on it.

Will keep schtum then.

You stated an opinion as a fact and without any real vested interest in it

Polls suggest he will be elected for another term
 

Grendel

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I do have a vested interest in it. I have relatives over there.

Well they are lucky as the economic indicators are far more positive than under Mr Obama
 

Otis

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Well they are lucky as the economic indicators are far more positive than under Mr Obama
Missing my point though.

He is a vile individual. I find him thoroughly dishonest, racist, nasty, spiteful, disingenuous, misogynistic, hateful,vengeful and intransigent.

He simply should be no-where near the seat of power. I think he is a loathsome man. Just what sort of example is he setting to the future generation of American kids? He is a tub thumper, spewing hatred and stiring up raw aggressive emotions.
 

Grendel

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Missing my point though.

He is a vile individual. I find him thoroughly dishonest, racist, nasty, spiteful, disingenuous, misogynistic, hateful,vengeful and intransigent.

He simply should be no-where near the seat of power. I think he is a loathsome man. Just what sort of example is he setting to the future generation of American kids? He is a tub thumper, spewing hatred and stiring up raw aggressive emotions.

Then he will lose in the next presidential contest
 

skybluetony176

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Well they are lucky as the economic indicators are far more positive than under Mr Obama

He hasn’t turned anything around overnight. If you know as much about economics as you think you do you would understand that. It takes years to turn a country around from the recession Obama inherited. Trump is reaping the rewards from the work of those who went before him, nothing else.
 

Captain Dart

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You stated an opinion as a fact and without any real vested interest in it

Polls suggest he will be elected for another term
Polls are pointless at this stage. When the Democrat challenger is selected they might be worthy of consideration.
 

Grendel

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Polls are pointless at this stage. When the Democrat challenger is selected they might be worthy of consideration.

They are just starting selections and the indications are they want by US standards a liberal left wing thinker.

Bye bye if that’s who they choose.

I’m sure no one likes Trump but his tax reduction strategy has worked as has his approach to business tax. Until December the American stock market grew like it never had in a year and businesses recorded record profits. Unemployment at a 50 year low. In the end people vote with what they value which tends not to be emotional but economical.
 

Captain Dart

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correct, and if it's anyone but that sociopath Hilary he'll be gone. But I think she'll run again, she's a megalomaniac.
No chance. She's had her go and failed.
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Captain Dart

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Caption competition.
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Sky Blue Pete

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I may so pleased the bully has had to back down. It’s a great thing for world politics and you know what fair play to him for doing so. If democracy in the USA is the answer though you have to ask what was the question
 

clint van damme

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I may so pleased the bully has had to back down. It’s a great thing for world politics and you know what fair play to him for doing so. If democracy in the USA is the answer though you have to ask what was the question

I've a feeling he backed down to try and deflect attention from Roger Stones arrest.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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After this latest "sate of emergency" to get funds for the wall, there is a growing part of me that really wants it to get built, so when it is and the immigrants and the drugs still continue to pour into America he can no longer use the excuse that it's because his wall wasn't built. Plus if the funding gets taken from the military budget it's at least a bit less they can spend on blowing the shit out of other places to 'liberate' them (is that how you spell it? Doesn't look right for some reason - maybe it's spelt 'oil'?)

Dumb fuckers that support him will still blame liberals and just say "we need more money to protect the border" (even though most of them are inherently opposed to tax)
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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FFS hasn't anyone shot him yet ?
 

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