Liquid Gold
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Facebook and Twitter is full of people hoping London Wasps don't cave in because they think that the EFL will take the golden share away from Sisu and give it to someone else at the last minute. They're deluded.
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mmttww
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Wasps didn't create that situation. We were always tenants. They bought something that was for sale which the club had plenty of time to buy if they were serious.
Their presence in the City and their ownership of the stadium is not the biggest barrier to us being successful. People are not apathetic towards the club because of Wasps.
Nick
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Been through this exact same conversation how many times?
People are apathetic to the situation when they explained about how the stadium was sold to Wasps and they realise that it is going to screw the football club over for 200+ years way after SISU have gone.
SkyblueBazza
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Well I support Bath Rugby, so I wasn't going turn 'em down!
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chiefdave
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Congratulations, you've just made the most mental post of the day and there's some serious competition.
Liquid Gold
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Another one that's been inactive for years that desperately wants London Wasps to look like the good guy, they're not even trying.
Greggs
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That's bullshit. You tried callin me racist the other week too! Why do you get off on this?! He' opening he statement with an admission, you claimed he opened it with a defensive quote! You're a good bloke, but this rascit bullshit aint working for me!
I was thinking about this a few days ago and in my own head I realised that we were lucky that it was a Rugby club buying the stadium, if it had been another Football club then we may have disappeared by now. At the time ccc/higgs jumped at the wasps offer compared to the Sisu one so i assume they would have taken anybodies higher offer and it could well have been a football club
Nick
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Wonder how that would have gone down, a football club moving here?
It's a documented fact that the Higgs were only ever going to sell to Wasps (not the club).
mmttww
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Tell yourself whatever you need to. What I desperately want is my football club functioning in a way that means my kids can fall in love with them and grow up supporting them the same as I did.
mmttww
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I said I stand to be corrected, so point out what's inacurrate in my post. The grassroots community stuff isn't up for debate, though. I volunteer at a rugby club and have see enough first hand to know the effect their presence is having.
Nick
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Maybe you can point out how CRFC have improved due to Wasps and not due to a decent owner that cares and the team etc?
Amazing that 2 people from Rugby clubs remember their logins again when Wasps are mentioned.
letsallsingtogether
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Careful next they will be accusing you of wanting the Club to die or having multiple accounts just because you won't tow the line on here.
Fuck um all Sisu Out .
Fuck um all Sisu Out .
mmttww
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I didn't say the improvement was due to Wasps moving here. I pointed out that there's nothing proving they've had a negative impact on CRFC.
Nick
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That reads as if it is down to Wasps, doesn't it? I'd say it's like crediting SISU for promotion.
chiefdave
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Are you mad? That's like saying if Man City started playing at the Ricoh it wouldn't have a negative impact of CCFC.
They're going after the same fans. It was never going to be the case that overnight the 2K that turn up every week to the Butts would go the watch Wasps instead but give it time and it will impact. All those kids who don't already go to games have a choice between watching top level rugby at the Ricoh for free or watching second tier rugby at the Butts, what do you think the most popular option will be?
In North American sport where franchising is the norm they talk about a team new to the area needing 25 years to settle in and 50 years to become established. Turning round after Wasps have been here 4 years and saying there's no negatives is crazy.
GaryJones
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When you ask someone to name Coventry's Rugby Club they will undoubtedly say "Wasps" or worse "Coventry Wasps". Before they moved here the answer to that would have been "Coventry". This might be a minor point to some but I personally think this has had a negative impact on CRFC.
Nick
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You will find that is usually when people have said they want the club to die or use multiple accounts, strangely enough.
Don't think you "tow the line" as you put it and don't think either has been said to you, has it? More made up bullshit.
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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I was coming back from Cov’s away game at Richmond in October and pub by Euston packed with CCFC fans on way back from Charlton away, asked a 3 blokes how we played etc, was asked what I’d been doing I replied “been to Richmond to watch Cov Rugby” all 3 responded “Wasps!?”
Nick
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Should have thrown them over the side of the boat.
I_Saw_Shaw_Score
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Positive of wasps has been maybe it’s galvinised Cov Rugby to put all the plans into reality and not be pushed into the shadows off the pitch.
I like the fact the club haven’t been ‘welcoming’ of Wasps.
Also the on pitch stuff is down to Rowland Winter being appointed head coach in 2016 him and his coaching staff have taken Cov from 3rd tier plodders, win 6 in a row lose 6 in a row to a side that are holding their own in the 2nd tier and aim for the Premiership.
I like the fact the club haven’t been ‘welcoming’ of Wasps.
Also the on pitch stuff is down to Rowland Winter being appointed head coach in 2016 him and his coaching staff have taken Cov from 3rd tier plodders, win 6 in a row lose 6 in a row to a side that are holding their own in the 2nd tier and aim for the Premiership.
SkyBlueCRJ
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We might be a bargaining chip but we're certainly not the only one. There's an argument that CCFC folding could actually work in the favour of SISU with regards to their litigation battle. Joy is what is termed as a vexatious litigant. It makes little difference whether we exist or not, Joy and SISU will still go after Wasps regardless and she won't stop until she's either successfully sued the Council or Wasps, or someone settles.
IMO i think as a fanbase we're becoming arrogant to the fact that because we were here first that essentially makes us untouchable. Believe me there are more reasons why Wasps shouldn't let CCFC continue playing at the Ricoh, than why they should. From a business perspective there is essentially no reason whatsoever why Wasps should continue the relationship and I may get a backlash for this but in all fairness why on earth should they continue that relationship. If a tenant was trying to sue you and take away your home would you let them stay there for another year?
mmttww
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No, it's not.
chiefdave said:
No, they're not. The area (CV and B'ham) is a rugby area but since 1995 there's not been a top flight side. Demand is there. Folks don't have to travel to Leicester or Northampton for a game of top flight rugby anymore.
chiefdave said:
Whichever they're brought up to watch.
chiefdave said:
This isn't America, and franchising is not the norm. Explain Atlanta in the MLS while you're at it - 50k plus each game in Year 2. Kinda kills your point.
We get enough from gate receipts and player sales to be competing at the top of L1 as others above us with a lot less to spend are already showing. Bitching about some far off future scenario where the sale to Wasps actually becomes a factor in our success is a waste of time.
letsallsingtogether
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More made up bullshit
Ah thats the other one you like to use.
And yes I was accused of wanting the club to die along with my brother who between us have had season tickets for over 70 years and still have.
letsallsingtogether
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It has also helped them get better crowds believe they had the biggest crowds last couple of seasons for the word tier.
Lots of old City fans go up.
Nick
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Who by? Certainly not me. I'll be happy to correct that also!More made up bullshit
Ah thats the other one you like to use.
And yes I was accused of wanting the club to die along with my brother who between us have had season tickets for over 70 years and still have.
I use it because funnily enough, it's usually made up.
pastythegreat
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I don't get how CCFC take fans for suckers with a poor experience!? Do you mean shit football? Or the whole day "fan zone" thing like the w***s have? Because football and rugby are completely different and can't be compared for "match day experience" and if CCFC ever started running match days like w***s do (like the Accrington game) as more than a once a season thing, it'd be the day it'd lose me as a fan. The atmosphere at w***s matches are dreadful (never been but everybody I know who has says it's shit) as was the atmoshepre at the Accrington game. If you want to sit not singing, eating popcorn and acting proper, go and watch w***s. The edgy atmosphere is what makes football so special. So tribal.
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stupot07
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Its a load of bollocks and lazy comment. It's the sort of nonsense Italia used to come out with.
And one of of the worst things about the city matchday experience is the heavy handed stewarding, and thats down to Wasps running the stewarding now.
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chiefdave
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Coventry City in the third tier with ambitions to be higher, Man Utd in the top tier playing European football.
CRFC in the third tier (when Wasps arrived) with ambitions to be higher, Wasps in the top tier playing European rugby.
Clearly no similarity at all.
WTF, you are seriously trying to tell me Wasps aren't trying to attract rugby fans who live in Coventry and the surrounding area???
By your logic if Man Utd pitched up here it would be fine as we haven't been in the PL for a few years and it would in no way impact on our attendances or restrict are ability to get back to the PL.
That is exactly the point. New team and people get 'shiny new thing' syndrome and turn up in numbers, sustaining it and embedding in the community takes decades.
joemercersaces
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I firmly believe that sport is entertainment and not religion, that grown men should not get too carried away by sport, and, perhaps most importantly, that this is a free country where people can spend their leisure time and money as they see fit.
I also firmly believe that anyone who professes to support Coventry City but gives any assistance to Wasps is a c**t.
I also firmly believe that anyone who professes to support Coventry City but gives any assistance to Wasps is a c**t.
chiefdave
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The biggest crowds each season in the Premiership since Wasps arrived here:
2014/15 Saracens v Harlequins 84,068
2015/16 Saracens v Harlequins 80,650
2016/17 Exeter v Wasps 79,657
2017/18 Harlequins v Northampton 77,825
2018/19 Northampton v Leicester 40,013
In total attendance for the current season so far Northampton are top then Bristol, Leicester, Bath, Gloucester, Harlequins and Wasps in 7th.
mmttww
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When folks can read things coherently and carry on their own point from one post to their next, let's talk. Until that day, I'm out. Will go back to lurking as this is way too much effort!
It's good for the city that Wasps are here. Blaming them for CCFC's mess is gonna get you nowhere fast. CCFC and Wasps can both be successful and both play at the Ricoh. Not complicated.
It's good for the city that Wasps are here. Blaming them for CCFC's mess is gonna get you nowhere fast. CCFC and Wasps can both be successful and both play at the Ricoh. Not complicated.
Nick
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You are more than welcome to point out where people are struggling...
Much easier to just fire loads of stuff out and not be able to discuss it though?
Nobody blames them for all of ccfcs mess either.
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letsallsingtogether
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No it's not usually made up just not to your liking.Who by? Certainly not me. I'll be happy to correct that also!
I use it because funnily enough, it's usually made up.
Anyway Grendel your Alter ego accused us of wanting the club dead only a couple of weeks ago.
Just like he used to bullshit about Tony not going to the City.
Just so he could look the super fan on here get likes off the rest of you while jerking off.
Now tell me which part of that is lies?
You can't enough said.
Enough said.
Nick
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No it's not usually made up just not to your liking.
Anyway Grendel your Alter ego accused us of wanting the club dead only a couple of weeks ago.
Just like he used to bullshit about Tony not going to the City.
Just so he could look the super fan on here get likes off the rest of you while jerking off.
Now tell me which part of that is lies?
You can't enough said.
Enough said.
No, it usually is hence it's said
Grendel isn't my alter ego, there you go again making stuff up. Can't help yourself can you? Just proving my point.
Point out what I have said... Not somebody else.
