Supporters Forum groups pledge Ricoh Arena deal support (1 Viewer)

I can't see how any city fan can refuse to agree to those points?

Nick said:

I can't see how any city fan can refuse to agree to those points?

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because its a good thing if ccfc die. ahha fuck you sisu

i will find a hobby on saturdays!

skybluebeduff said:

Also in attendance and offered the opportunity to support were The Sky Blue Trust, though their board subsequently decided they did not wish to commit to the entire statement.

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That's an absolute disgrace from the Trust. I know there are some good people who try hard on there but those people are clearly being overruled and should be giving serious thought to handing in their resignations.

Anyone from The Trust care to disclose which parts of the statement they didn't want to commit to?

I'd imagine it's the "ALL parties to put aside their differences" bit.......

edgy said:

Anyone from The Trust care to disclose which parts of the statement they didn't want to commit to?

I'd imagine it's the "ALL parties to put aside their differences" bit.......

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How can they object to that? All its saying is sit down and talk so there's a chance the club has somewhere to play next season.

The trust are now positioning themselves as in opposition to securing the future of the club and every other fans group.

So would this be the point that the sky blues trust realise they don’t represent the majority of fans given that all the other fans groups support it?

Time to change their name I think

chiefdave said:

How can they object to that? All its saying is sit down and talk so there's a chance the club has somewhere to play next season.

The trust are now positioning themselves as in opposition to securing the future of the club and every other fans group.

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But they agree with the Jimmy Hill Way remember and they wanted to stand united with the CCFC community.

Since then we have had a Trust Board member throw a hissy fit that views on here don't represent the fans are irrelevant and delete his account and radio silence (again, apart from CJ who tries his hardest) from other board members about putting out a Q and A to clear up some facts. (Again, CJ is going to look into it when he can (which I dont expect him to be able to instantly and I believe he will) but there are other board members who didn't say a peep).

chiefdave said:

How can they object to that? All its saying is sit down and talk so there's a chance the club has somewhere to play next season.

The trust are now positioning themselves as in opposition to securing the future of the club and every other fans group.

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Because it ends with, "despite the on-going court case".

I don’t trust the trust

edgy said:

Anyone from The Trust care to disclose which parts of the statement they didn't want to commit to?

I'd imagine it's the "ALL parties to put aside their differences" bit.......

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I think this is the seriously important part, the Trust need to explain their decision (maybe they have already elsewhere, I haven't looked) as otherwise it seems an odd set of statements to disagree with, in full or in part.

edgy said:

Because it ends with, "despite the on-going court case".

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Yes I’m sure that’s it.

Cj on here seemed aghast at the suggestion of advising its members to boycott wasps, brown in the past has praised wasps, Jan has talked of a great atmosphere at wasps. These are, remember, the same people who backed the chancer Haskell

They should all just go.

The trust is a fucking disgrace, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Absolute madness that they claim to represent the view of the fans.

Nick said:

But they agree with the Jimmy Hill Way remember and they wanted to stand united with the CCFC community.

Since then we have had a Trust Board member throw a hissy fit that views on here don't represent the fans are irrelevant and delete his account and radio silence (again, apart from CJ who tries his hardest) from other board members about putting out a Q and A to clear up some facts. (Again, CJ is going to look into it when he can (which I dont expect him to be able to instantly and I believe he will) but there are other board members who didn't say a peep).

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Was that ashbyjan?

fernandopartridge said:

Was that ashbyjan?

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No, he did have an outrage on here that time though when he was saying how selfish city fans would be if they went to watch CCFC play at a stadium by the cinema / bermuda after saying how great the sporting occasion was at one of the first wasps matches.

I don't think he has much to do with the Trust now though.

Nick said:

No, he did have an outrage on here that time though when he was saying how selfish city fans would be if they went to watch CCFC play at a stadium by the cinema / bermuda after saying how great the sporting occasion was at one of the first wasps matches.

I don't think he has much to do with the Trust now though.

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He's probably on the Wasps bus now, my mates spotted him up there in the second season I think it was.

edgy said:

Because it ends with, "despite the on-going court case".

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That was the only bit our rep disagreed with.

Grendel said:

Yes I’m sure that’s it.

Cj on here seemed aghast at the suggestion of advising its members to boycott wasps, brown in the past has praised wasps, Jan has talked of a great atmosphere at wasps. These are, remember, the same people who backed the chancer Haskell

They should all just go.

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I am against the idea of telling people to not do something. Same goes for when we were at Sixfields. I was against anyone having a go at anyone for going in. It’s not my place, your place or anyone else’s place to tell people how they shouldn’t be spending the money they’ve earned.

CJ_covblaze said:

That was the only bit our rep disagreed with.

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So the Trust don't agree that a deal should be done despite the court stuff? Surely that's the most important thing?

Did they disagree last year?

Nick said:

So the Trust don't agree that a deal should be done despite the court stuff? Surely that's the more important thing?

Did they disagree last year?

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We said drop the bit about the court case and we’ll back it.

CJ_covblaze said:

We said drop the bit about the court case and we’ll back it.

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So you are saying that a deal shouldn't be done if there are legals? How come everybody else could agree?

It just shows that the intention is more anti sisu / pro council and wasps than it is about CCFC. Again I am not saying this is you personally ( I have tried my hardest to make that clear in posts) but that's very much how it looks.

"despite the on-going court case" - if you drop that then you are agreeing with Wasps holding the club to ransom over SISU's actions

CJ_covblaze said:

We said drop the bit about the court case and we’ll back it.

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Erm I thought you were against telling people to do something?

I agree that people with no money or influence should continue to shout as loudly as they can their wishes for people with money and influence on how to use said money and influence. They always listen.

fernandopartridge said:

Erm I thought you were against telling people to do something?

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Shouldn't it have been put to the members being represented? Who would have actually decided?

I asked the Trust why they didn't support the statement. They will release a statement soon, but as I understand it, they wanted a stipulation that Sisu et al drop the legals as a pre-condition to discussions about our future at the Ricoh. Maybe I misunderstood their reply, but it seems to me that there is little to no chance of the legals being dropped.

So the trust are happy for London Wasps not to talk to us if Sisu don't drop legals.A fucking joke, they care more about not being seen to be in any way supportive of sisu (even though it wouldn't at all) than they are pressuring to secure the future of the club.

CJ_covblaze said:

We said drop the bit about the court case and we’ll back it.

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Out of interest why would the trust back it with that removed? If you remove that sentence it doesn't make Sepalla stop the legals so it creates an ambiguous area that the likes of Wasps can use to the clubs disadvantage.

We need talks to happen now so we have a stadium to play in next season. There is absolutely no reason that talks can't currently take place, they have taken place and been concluded successfully in the past with legal action ongoing.

Seems the trust is more concerned with cheap point scoring against SISU than the future of the club.

Yet again, as much as there are those at the trust who have buried their heads in the sand, you only have to look across all social media or get out and actually speak to people to see the trust aren't representing the views of the supporters.

I want our club to survive no matter what. I don't want our club to survive only if the owners drop legals.

skyblueindorset said:

but as I understand it, they wanted a stipulation that Sisu et al drop the legals as a pre-condition to discussions about our future at the Ricoh.

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It's as if it's a soundbyte from the council rather than a CCFC fans group.

How about they just fuck off and cuddle Blackpool fans and drool over Wasps? As a group, they have nothing in common with most city fans.

Nick said:

Shouldn't it have been put to the members being represented? Who would have actually decided?

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I’ll double check to confirm but I guess it was due to confidentiality. Sorry been out of the loop a bit in the last week.

CJ_covblaze said:

I’ll double check to confirm but I guess it was due to confidentiality. Sorry been out of the loop a bit in the last week.

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It's why it's a bit harsh that you are somehow trying to explain on behalf of somebody else.

It's not much different to Boddy taking the shite because of others above him.

So to simplify if we assume that Joy won't suddenly stop the legals the trust would rather the club ceased to exist than put the slightest bit of pressure on Wasps to come to the table and agree a short term extension at the Ricoh, and that is supposed to be the representative view of the majority of fans?

chiefdave said:

So to simplify if we assume that Joy won't suddenly stop the legals the trust would rather the club ceased to exist than put the slightest bit of pressure on Wasps to come to the table and agree a short term extension at the Ricoh, and that is supposed to be the representative view of the majority of fans?

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Not at all.