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usskyblue

usskyblue

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WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
Glad to see im making friends.


My first post and the reason I signed up was because I was frustrated after the Portsmouth game. The Fans Forum on facebook does my head in and, being a long time lurker of the forums I signed up - which is ironic as this is the exact same thing that happens on the Fans forum.

I've made no reference to Wasps until I was called a Wasps PR guru. I'm also not apologising for going to 2 Wasps games 2 years ago.
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You know there’s Wasps section on here m8? You’ll love it.
 
WhaleOilBeefHooked

WhaleOilBeefHooked

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Nick said:
So you are a long time lurker (again) who signs up and the majority of their posts are along the same thing?
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A long time lurker (only the once) who signs up and messages and gets crucified for having an opinion, yes.

What do you want? A DNA test? A sworn alliegance on the bible to the club? Take a shit on a Wasps shirt?

I'll comment more on Otis' Netflix threads if you want? Would that prove it?
 
Nick

Nick

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WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
A long time lurker (only the once) who signs up and messages and gets crucified for having an opinion, yes.

What do you want? A DNA test? A sworn alliegance on the bible to the club? Take a shit on a Wasps shirt?

I'll comment more on Otis' Netflix threads if you want? Would that prove it?
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Not really, people will judge based on your post history. When it's full of ccfc posts they probably won't mention it, will they?

When people sign up and go all out with something very particular, what do people think will happen?
 
WhaleOilBeefHooked

WhaleOilBeefHooked

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Nick said:
When people sign up and go all out with something very particular, what do people think will happen?
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I don't know - perhaps decent responses rather than "oh look you're a troll". Come to the wrong place for opinions and discussion apparently. Oh look, the very name of this site is Sky Blues TALK.

Judge me after a few weeks or months. No doubt I'll wind some up, but you have my word I'm a Cov fan, always have been, and always will be. Or just boot me. Your call.
 
Nick

Nick

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WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
I don't know - perhaps decent responses rather than "oh look you're a troll". Come to the wrong place for opinions and discussion apparently. Oh look, the very name of this site is Sky Blues TALK.

Judge me after a few weeks or months. No doubt I'll wind some up, but you have my word I'm a Cov fan, always have been, and always will be. Or just boot me. Your call.
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You have come to the place for opinion and discussion about CCFC, yes.

That's why people find it strange when about 3 of your posts have been about CCFC and the rest are about a particular thing.

You might want to have a word about your season ticket too, £25 a game?
 
WhaleOilBeefHooked

WhaleOilBeefHooked

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Nick said:
You have come to the place for opinion and discussion about CCFC, yes.

That's why people find it strange when about 3 of your posts have been about CCFC and the rest are about a particular thing.

You might want to have a word about your season ticket too, £25 a game?
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You mean the £25 my Mrs paid to come and watch lol. I would send a photo of me and her together but you guys would probably masturbate furiously over her.

If you don't believe me just boot me. No big deal mate.
 
Nick

Nick

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WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
You mean the £25 my Mrs paid to come and watch lol. I would send a photo of me and her together but you guys would probably masturbate furiously over her.

If you don't believe me just boot me. No big deal mate.
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Was your mrs posting? I am pretty sure you were moaning about paying £25 to attend the Portsmouth game.

You use a fake email and DOB on a website but would post up a photo of your missus

Straight onto the "ban me" already? That was quicker than usual.

Yeah, it's all a bit weird now.
 
torchomatic

torchomatic

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This thread would have benefitted from SBK's input.
 
Moff

Moff

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I always had SBK down as the Father Jack of SBT, fekk arse and all that ;)

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Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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Sky Blue Harry H said:
Part of me agrees, but if it is our current owners who built any new stadium, it would be part of a financial plan to leech any 'profits' to them with a break even model for the playing side (i.e. any profits would not go back into the team). All under the old 'CCFC still owe us' from the initial investment/exorbitant interest rates/management fees etc. We are like that bloke who borrowed £100 for a night out and ended up owing £19,000. Never going to get out of it, unless white knight/rapid promotion (whereby 3rd party becomes interested)/Wasps fold!!
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I’m thinking ahead post-SISU because some of our fans seems to think the owners are immortal...

The club, whomever owns us, need to go ahead and build a new stadium. The term ‘gypsy club’ is genius and that is what our existence is now relegated to, part of that is down to SISU, but the council isn’t completely absolved from responsibility. Far from it.

The worst thing that has happened to this club was the dodgy dealings that took us away from Highfield Road and sold it before we financed the new ground.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

Mucca Mad Boys

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WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
I think Wasps getting the ground was the wrong decision, but I'm not sure what you mean by "bad, if not worse than SISU".

Apart from them getting a ground at bargain basement prices, they've been pretty accommodating to CCFC, no? Whereas SISU have woefully under-invested and nearly asset-stripped the club, which culminated in moving them to Northampton and consistently lying about the stadium situation.

So no, I don't think they're as bad as SISU. I think the CCC were equally complicit.
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Under-invested? You can’t just chuck more money at something that was already haemorrhaging money until fairly recently. It’s easy for us for bemoan the lack of spending when it isn’t our money. That’s how clubs end up like Aston Villa, or Portsmouth, or Luton who overspent for years.

When a billionaire walks away from the club because of the finances, it wasn’t going to be pretty. That is said with hindsight.
 
Calista

Calista

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torchomatic said:
We've been through this a zillion times in the past, but that's how football is nowadays. It's not a SISU "thing". New stadiums are very rarely owned by the club but by the owners of the club. Long term having our own stadium is the only way we'll be able to compete at a higher level.
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Owning the Ricoh would have made a huge difference 10 or 15 years ago, and I dearly wanted and expected it, but CCFC blew that opportunity. Now 80% or 90% of income for Premier League clubs is broadcast money, with income from other sources becoming merely nice to have:

Premier League: 11 of 20 clubs could have made profits in 2016-17 without fans at games

If people think we’d have more “identity” by building another stadium, that’s a different argument – but it would have to be pretty special and atmospheric to worth the bother, surely? In financial terms, stadium ownership (the Ricoh or anywhere else) is no longer the key to getting back to the top. Given the huge gulf in income (even with clubs in the Championship on parachute payments) the only way to do it would be through a mega-wealthy investor. Barring that, we will permanently be a biggish club in a smaller pond, and the years have taken their toll on my ambition so I’m beginning to actually be fairly comfortable with that. I can’t really believe I’ve said that, but the top flight is such a long time ago now I’ve learned to see it as almost a different sport, and an obscenely overpaid sport at that. Are we having any less fun than (say) Fulham or even Leicester fans, who must be pretty disappointed with dropping back among the also-rans in a league that’s totally dominated by half a dozen massive clubs, with everyone else in an annual battle first and foremost to simply preserve their status?
 
clint van damme

clint van damme

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WhaleOilBeefHooked said:
Thank you. An actual response.

My point is though, why would SISU invest more into the purchase of land and the construction of a stadium. I'm not even going to try to guess the total estimate cost, but it must be in the millions.

It just doesn't make sense, especially when their whole MO up to now appears to be the Ricoh with the constant legal disputes and court cases - this is why I believe that when the next one loses, they'll sell up as they have no hope in hell in recouperating their existing investment. The liquidation I'm hoping doesn't happen, and I don't think it will mean the end of CCFC, but they clearly don't care one jot about the club, city or fans.
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I don't think for one minute sisu will invest in building a stadium, but I also think you're wrong about liquidation.
It's a given that they don't care about the club or the support, I don't think anyone would argue to the contrary.
 
stevefloyd

stevefloyd

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Houchens Head said:
It might be 6 months old, but still a good read! I got a book out of the library the other day. It was called "Oliver Twist" by some bloke called Charles Dickens. Turns out it was written in 1838. But I still enjoyed it!
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What happened in the end?
 
Captain Dart

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Captain Dart

Captain Dart

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Calista said:
Owning the Ricoh would have made a huge difference 10 or 15 years ago, and I dearly wanted and expected it, but CCFC blew that opportunity. Now 80% or 90% of income for Premier League clubs is broadcast money, with income from other sources becoming merely nice to have:

Premier League: 11 of 20 clubs could have made profits in 2016-17 without fans at games

If people think we’d have more “identity” by building another stadium, that’s a different argument – but it would have to be pretty special and atmospheric to worth the bother, surely? In financial terms, stadium ownership (the Ricoh or anywhere else) is no longer the key to getting back to the top. Given the huge gulf in income (even with clubs in the Championship on parachute payments) the only way to do it would be through a mega-wealthy investor. Barring that, we will permanently be a biggish club in a smaller pond, and the years have taken their toll on my ambition so I’m beginning to actually be fairly comfortable with that. I can’t really believe I’ve said that, but the top flight is such a long time ago now I’ve learned to see it as almost a different sport, and an obscenely overpaid sport at that. Are we having any less fun than (say) Fulham or even Leicester fans, who must be pretty disappointed with dropping back among the also-rans in a league that’s totally dominated by half a dozen massive clubs, with everyone else in an annual battle first and foremost to simply preserve their status?
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I think a return to the premier league is only possible with a mega wealthy owner prepared to sink tens of millions into the club, even then its a gamble.
Our current owners are mega wealthy but their interest in sporting success is defined by preserving or enhancing whatever value their investment currently holds.
 
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