Bids for McNulty / McNulty to Reading (1 Viewer)

fernandopartridge said:

Yeah, there is but a move to the mighty Reading falls firmly into one of those camps. The justifications used here are all purely about money rather than ambition.

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Agreed. I'd tell him he's going nowhere and if we don't go up next season, we'll let him move on the summer after. If he wants to sulk, fuck him. He owes us a bit after all, we got his career back on track...

Nick said:

The shouldn't be one anyway for an engineered move.

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The contracts just say that you only lose out if you hand in a written contract request. I think it's pretty standard over all UK players. It's a worthless clause when they can force a club's hand in other ways. Exactly what Leon Clarke did.

fernandopartridge said:

I'd be completely pissed off and massively deflated if this is the case. £1.5m is nothing and doesn't guarantee replacing 28 goals. Has any team at any level ever gone on to have a good season after selling their top scorer?

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Chances are he will never score 28 goals in a season ever again. It's only players like Harry Kane who bang them in season after season. It was an amazing season for him last season but I doubt he will ever match it, particularly two leagues higher. Good luck to him. If he wants to go then let him go and replace him now. Be interesting to see if he is in the team to face Sutton tomorrow.

There is no loyalty in football be it clubs to players, players to clubs even fans to players. Clubs want instant success, players want to maximise earnings in a relatively short window so it's not really surprising that these things happen. Only surprise is that some folk get all worked up about it

Ah well he was a foul mouthed so-and-so:

Feel a bit better about him going after watching that a few times!

NorthernWisdom said:

Everton won the title the year after they flogged Lineker.

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......aand im pretty sure the red shite won it the season after that....having sold rush to juve.....

I think these are the exceptions that prove FPs point

jimmyhillsfanclub said:

......aand im pretty sure the red shite won it the season after that....having sold rush to juve.....

I think these are the exceptions that prove FPs point

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In our case:
Keane and McAllister
King
Armstrong (admittedly a loan expiring)

All led to relegation. It is difficult to replace all those goals and assists.

That said, the players we have signed and Andreu coming back might point to having a different type of player to McNulty up front.

I hear £1.2M rising to £1.5M.
It might not make me popular considering what he's done for the club last season, but I'm not really surprised on the loyalty front ,given he dropped Mansfield for us.
But more than that I felt he either lacked confidence and the Club felt heavy on him, then it came across he was a bit needy with various articles about getting called out,etc, patience ,belief.
Then Articles about Scotland, I just felt he should have manned up, got on with it.

ashbyjan said:

There is no loyalty in football be it clubs to players, players to clubs even fans to players. Clubs want instant success, players want to maximise earnings in a relatively short window so it's not really surprising that these things happen. Only surprise is that some folk get all worked up about it

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"Loyalty" is such a feeble argument in any context, let alone this one. He has been here a year. His only duty is to his own (short) career and to maximize the income he can generate for his family. Every single one of us would do exactly the same including those bleating on about loyalty

fernandopartridge said:

In our case:
Keane and McAllister
King
Armstrong (admittedly a loan expiring)

All led to relegation. It is difficult to replace all those goals and assists.

That said, the players we have signed and Andreu coming back might point to having a different type of player to McNulty up front.

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Well... I remain convinced if we hadn't have wasted the cash we had to spend from Keane on Bellamy, we'd have been alright. There was a steady decline across the years when King went. Armstrong did prove the point, but of course as both he and King went for zero, there was no cash to replace with.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's simple(!) but it's the text all managers have to face anyway. If McNulty hadn't scaled the same heights next season (and yep, it's a what-if) we'd have had a fraction of the cash to keep the club running and also find a replacement.

You could say that from free to £1mil+ in a season is a fabulous achievement by Robins really (and McNulty too, of course!)

It's a decision where we'll only know if it's the right one come next season, and how he and us both do!

Gibbo said:

"Loyalty" is such a feeble argument in any context, let alone this one. He has been here a year. His only duty is to his own (short) career and to maximize the income he can generate for his family. Every single one of us would do exactly the same including those bleating on about loyalty

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That's why Steve Bull left Wolves isn't it?

jimmyhillsfanclub said:

......aand im pretty sure the red shite won it the season after that....having sold rush to juve.....

I think these are the exceptions that prove FPs point

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Course we sold Gibson to Man Utd end of the 86 season.

The one that followed wasn't too bad...

fernandopartridge said:

I don't think comparing sale prices with the pitiful values we've received for players previously really works. We should have held out for as much as we could possibly get.

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Ah so we should have been greedy then. Joined up thinking at its best.

Nonleagueherewecome said:

That's why Steve Bull left Wolves isn't it?

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Le Tissier more so as well

NorthernWisdom said:

Course we sold Gibson to Man Utd end of the 86 season.

The one that followed wasn't too bad...

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I'm still hurting about it though!

clint van damme said:

I'm still hurting about it though!

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Admittedly part of me wonders just how good we'd have been if we'd been able to keep him, and add Pickering to the squad anyway.

fernandopartridge said:

Any examples of where a team prospers immediately after losing their top scorer? We've been relegated every time it has happened to us in my memory!

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Erm, we lost ours last season then went on to get promoted (George Thomas)

I can't see him making it in the championship. Most games he needs a good 4 or 5 chances before he gets a clean strike on the ball. If I was in his position, I would be wanting the move too, 3 year contract at 10k a week sets him up for life.

Gibbo said:

"Loyalty" is such a feeble argument in any context, let alone this one. He has been here a year. His only duty is to his own (short) career and to maximize the income he can generate for his family. Every single one of us would do exactly the same including those bleating on about loyalty

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Basically this. And anyone saying otherwise is fucking deluded.

28 goal striker lost, full faith in Robins to replace him. Anyone can leave, don’t give a fuck. It’s a team game.

Well done McNulty LAST season. Time to move on and find a new hero.


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Houdi said:

Ah so we should have been greedy then. Joined up thinking at its best.

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Clown

Not sure Reading would be my choice if I were a footballer (I think they are league one bound) but if he thinks it's the right move for him and his family then good luck to him.

Sign for them with £1.5m, add a release clause for relegation and come back to us on a free when we go up

NorthernWisdom said:

Course we sold Gibson to Man Utd end of the 86 season.

The one that followed wasn't too bad...

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not sure how he'd have fitted in to the passing game Sillett implemented but used to l've watching him get on the end of a long ball and sticking in the net.

Nonleagueherewecome said:

Ah well he was a foul mouthed so-and-so:

Feel a bit better about him going after watching that a few times!

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If he has any hope of cutting it at that level he'll need to change his current lifestyle by the look and sound of it.

McNulty’s eyes are on Rangers if the truth be known, family of Gers fans and he has said he’d like to go back and play in Scotland.

Sick Boy said:

If he has any hope of cutting it at that level he'll need to change his current lifestyle by the look and sound of it.

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Sesh after a promotion. How dare he.

Magwitch said:

McNulty’s eyes are on Rangers if the truth be known, family of Gers fans and he has said he’d like to go back and play in Scotland.

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You mean his die hard celtic fan dad?

hill83 said:

Sesh after a promotion. How dare he.

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How naive.

Id definately sell if brought armstrong back as a replacement

Sick Boy said:

How naive.

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What are you suggesting then?

Nick said:

You mean his die hard celtic fan dad?

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McNulty a Celtic fan as well.

Sick Boy said:

How naive.

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I thought he had gone on his mates stag after the end of the season?

His only mistake is being too comfortable with city fans and going over the top with mingling like in that video but can't really hold it against him. He's pissed up with his mates and somebody comes up to him and asks him to give their mate some abuse. Then it's debatable whether him socialising on the beers with fans is that wrong (see promotion parties in clubs with fans)

If it was a couple of days before a match mid season it would be a bit different.

Sounds like nothing we offered worked for him.

So Thanks Marc for the memories.

Also note this bit:

I was never under any pressure to sell Marc, other than from the player's agent.

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