The lack of consistency (1 Viewer)

Otis

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We're unbeaten in 6 home games (won 5 drew 1). Only our away record is killing us.
Yep, exactly. We can't just keep expecting to win our home games though. That adds more pressure on us every time we don't pick up any points away.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Yep, exactly. We can't just keep expecting to win our home games though. That adds more pressure on us every time we don't pick up any points away.

I agree Otis, it’s very frustrating.

When we had a bad run at home in October /November....before this current win.

It’s as the two outstanding away wins at Luton and Lincoln that kept us ticking along.

Keep the faith.
 

covcity4life

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London is roght. We beat accrington in front of big crowd and everyone is buzzing again

That said i wont get carried away anymore with home wins. We simply must win more away. When we do that i will be ecastatic


Even as optimistic as i ususaly am i have written off being champions now which is a shamw. But 2nd and 3rd are still there for us
 

Otis

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We are closer top 3 in the last two weeks, than other point in the last two months.

For example we were 10 points behind Notts County in 2nd place on December 9th. After we lost to Morecambe (let me add I was there...was worse performance than today.

And FGR are better team than Morecambe, they will easily avoid relegation.

What has changed for you today that you don’t think we will make top 3? Btw I still think we will and we are in a superb position to do so.

Why don’t you or anyone else get....we will lose games in this league. Everyone does. The champions of this league usually lose lots of games it’s the nature of the league.

What I don’t get is one week last week everyone was so positive and how can one performance change the thinking.

We just need a recap, after Jodie jones injury in November we would all have taken play offs. As that looked along shot in November. Never mind Automatic.

Btw I don’t buy your statement if we get to the play offs and fail through to get promoted it wouldn’t be failure. 80/90. % of fans would have taken play offs this yearbefore season began in the unknown. Considering Luton were always gonna storm it. Effectively only 2 automatic slots were up for grabs.

As it stands I think we will finish easily in play off but won’t be good enough for auto. We will finish 4th.

Imo we will do a Luton what they did last year. Finish fourth and not get through. But will be stronger next year. From the experience. Yes I will be hugely disappointed as will most fans.

So you think we are in a superb position to end up top 3.

Of course every season is different, but we need to look at the stats.

2006/7

1st place - Lost 7 games all season
2nd place - 10
3rd place - 11

2007/8

1st place - 7
2nd place - 10
3rd place 10

2008/9

1st place - 7
2nd place - 11
3rd place - 8

2009/10

1st place - 7
2nd place - 13
3rd place - 14

2010/11

1st place - 8
2nd place - 11
3rd place - 10

2011/12

1st place - 11
2nd place - 10
3rd place - 8

2012/13

1st place - 9
2nd place 15
3rd place - 10

2013/14

1st place - 8
2nd place - 5
3rd place - 13

2014/15

1st place - 8
2nd place - 11
3re place - 13

2015/16

1st place - 5
2nd place - 8
3rd place - 13

2016/17

1st place - 11
2nd place - 11
3rd place - 11.

That shows how tough it is and we have already lost 10 games. Only Swindon out of the top sides have lost more than us (11). There's still 16 games to go.

Like I say, we need to improve. We average on losing every 3rd game. That continues we will lose another 5 games, totalling 15 for the season. Only once in the last 12 years has any team gone up automatically losing 15 games.

Of course, like I say, every season is different.

The top 3 at the moment have lost 6, 7 and 6 games. Mansfield have lost just 1 in 16.

As it stands we are not well equipped for a top 3 place.

It needs a definite improvement.

What has changed for me? Every time we have a home win I always thought, right that's it, next week we will win or draw away and it will be the start of the run, but we keep getting beaten. 2 steps forwards , 2 steps back.

And of course we have closed the gap on Notts County. They have been on a poor run.
 

Londonccfcfan

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So you think we are in a superb position to end up top 3.

Of course every season is different, but we need to look at the stats.

2006/7

1st place - Lost 7 games all season
2nd place - 10
3rd place - 11

2007/8

1st place - 7
2nd place - 10
3rd place 10

2008/9

1st place - 7
2nd place - 11
3rd place - 8

2009/10

1st place - 7
2nd place - 13
3rd place - 14

2010/11

1st place - 8
2nd place - 11
3rd place - 10

2011/12

1st place - 11
2nd place - 10
3rd place - 8

2012/13

1st place - 9
2nd place 15
3rd place - 10

2013/14

1st place - 8
2nd place - 5
3rd place - 13

2014/15

1st place - 8
2nd place - 11
3re place - 13

2015/16

1st place - 5
2nd place - 8
3rd place - 13

2016/17

1st place - 11
2nd place - 11
3rd place - 11.

That shows how tough it is and we have already lost 10 games. Only Swindon out of the top sides have lost more than us (11). There's still 16 games to go.

Like I say, we need to improve. We average on losing every 3rd game. That continues we will lose another 5 games, totalling 15 for the season. Only once in the last 12 years has any team gone up automatically losing 15 games.

Of course, like I say, every season is different.

The top 3 at the moment have lost 6, 7 and 6 games. Mansfield have lost just 1 in 16.

As it stands we are not well equipped for a top 3 place.

It needs a definite improvement.

What has changed for me? Every time we have a home win I always thought, right that's it, next week we will win or draw away and it will be the start of the run, but we keep getting beaten. 2 steps forwards , 2 steps back.

And of course we have closed the gap on Notts County. They have been on a poor run.

This stupid FA Cup run has made it seem like we have been on excellent run.

This year there are a lot more teams in it. So quite possibly the points tally may not be as high. 10 to possibly 12 teams have a chance at play offs. A lot of teams will be losing to each other.

This year for example it is possible in remaining games for Us to win 11 and lose 5 and That’s 83 points and would be good enough for 3rd place most seasons place and would mean we have lost 15 games. More than any other season.

I think there will be a lot more losses this year. A lot of top 10 nothing between them. Will lose to each other. Quite possibly.
 

Otis

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Would certainly help if rivals kept knocking points off each other.

Besides Luton, Mansfield concern me the most.
 

Londonccfcfan

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Would certainly help if rivals kept knocking points off each other.

Besides Luton, Mansfield concern me the most.

We still have to play our rivals. It’s all still in our hands.

Accrington H
Mansfield A
Wycombe A
Lincoln H
Luton H
Notts county A

Of all those games wins against Wycombe/Mansfield/Notts county would be game on.

This season is definitely going to the last game of the season for jockeying for positions.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I think whoever said our consistency is found in our inconsistency is bang on. We are consistent. We can’t string 3 good performances together in a row
 

Otis

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Have we been in the top three at all this season? Apart from right at the start? So I think our performances and ability are reflected in our current position. It looks like we will be fighting for a play off place. Hope I’m wrong and we improve and achieve autos.

Yeah, have been top 3 in the not too dim and distant past.

These are our league placings game by game

2nd
1st
4th
10th
10th
8th
4th
6th
6th
5th
7th
8th
8th
8th
6th
6th
7th
6th
6th
7th
7th
4th
7th
5th
3rd
8th
6th
4th
8th
 

Rob S

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Heh. One loss after all the buzz of the last few weeks and the sky is falling. (TBF, it did feel like it at times yesterday but that was more to do with the amount of rain.)

Maybe I’ve seen Cov too many times but I was concerned about how confident so many fans were as, for me, this had banana skin all over it.

Come on people. We’re Cov. We never make things easy.

I’ll agree that we need to score more and that’s been our problem all season. We’re 7 goals down on what we should have scored I think. That said, our strikers are on better form than earlier in the season so I’m confident enough for the run in.

That we’re in 8th, 4 points off 10th place and 4 points off automatic promotion is OK for me based on how I thought this season might pan out. 6 points out of every 9 should see us through.
 

Otis

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Heh. One loss after all the buzz of the last few weeks and the sky is falling. (TBF, it did feel like it at times yesterday but that was more to do with the amount of rain.)

Maybe I’ve seen Cov too many times but I was concerned about how confident so many fans were as, for me, this had banana skin all over it.

Come on people. We’re Cov. We never make things easy.

I’ll agree that we need to score more and that’s been our problem all season. We’re 7 goals down on what we should have scored I think. That said, our strikers are on better form than earlier in the season so I’m confident enough for the run in.

That we’re in 8th, 4 points off 10th place and 4 points off automatic promotion is OK for me based on how I thought this season might pan out. 6 points out of every 9 should see us through.
If only it WAS one loss and the sky is falling.

It's a pattern and with each break of a winning sequence it becomes more frustrating.

Going back through the season:

We won against Port Vale and Carlisle and spirits were high and we were very confident then going into Cambridge away. We lost.

We then beat Swindon and Crewe, so again spirits and belief high. We then drew against Barnet, but lost at Accrington.

We then beat Luton away, followed that up with a win against Maidenhead in the FA Cup and then West Brom in the Checkatrade. Great belief going into the Mansfield game (they had no wins in 6), but we lost.

We then beat Lincoln away, drew against Stevenage and Crawley and went into the Morecambe highly confident. We were awful and lost 2-0.

We then beat Cheltenham and Wycombe, so again great belief going into the Christmas period, but then lost at Port Vale on Boxing Day.

We then beat Carlisle away and Chesterfield and then won against Stoke in the cup, so spirits soaring, but then lost at Exeter.

We then beat Swindon and MK Don's in the cup and then Cambridge and once again belief was palpable, but then of course we lost to Forest Green.

Would love it if it were just one game, but it's not. It's a pattern and every time our hopes are raised they are quickly dashed again and I can't just buy the 'this is Coventry City though and that's what we do.' We are now in League Two and in a division we can clearly compete in.

The fact we haven't been lower than 10th place all season shows that.

There is absolutely no excuse for the losses at Morecambe and Forest Green and Cambridge etc.

I so wish it was just one game. I would be dusting myself down this morning and be all excited again for next week. Instead, I am sitting here shaking my head.

We have to put a run together. It is that simple. We need a 6 or 7 game unbeaten run.
 
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Otis

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I've a horrible feeling we will fuck it up

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Never had that feeling before until the last couple of away defeats.

We simply cannot rely on our home form. We can't expect to win every home match.
 

BackRoomRummermill

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If this season goes tits up the post-mortem will deduce the following

Biamou should have been replaced for a real striker in the transfer window

Robins taking lesser clubs for granted and getting bitten and not working a decent formation

The FA cup a distraction

Goal keeping errors

Injury to essential players

We all know it , if we don’t go up you can wave goodbye to the decent players like McNulty

Let’s get out of this league please
 

Otis

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If this season goes tits up the post-mortem will deduce the following

Biamou should have been replaced for a real striker in the transfer window

Robins taking lesser clubs for granted and getting bitten and not working a decent formation

The FA cup a distraction

Goal keeping errors

Injury to essential players

We all know it , if we don’t go up you can wave goodbye to the decent players like McNulty

Let’s get out of this league please
I'm praying to the rain and sun gods every night and offering my wife up as a blood sacrifice.

I'm also getting my mum to knit some extra big goalkeeping gloves for Lee Burge. Not sure what else I can do.
 

Hobo

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The team are no more inconsistent than the fans:
We are great
No we are shit
Should have played that player because we lost
We should play 442 because we lost
We were 4th last week now we are 8th we have become shit.
Let's sign a player who hasn't kicked a ball all season - because he played for us before and is dead keen to join us (because he is injured and the lucrative contract he left us for has been cancelled)...yes I bet he wants us to pay his wages.
 

Otis

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The team are no more inconsistent than the fans:
We are great
No we are shit
Should have played that player because we lost
We should play 442 because we lost
We were 4th last week now we are 8th we have become shit.
Let's sign a player who hasn't kicked a ball all season - because he played for us before and is dead keen to join us (because he is injured and the lucrative contract he left us for has been cancelled)...yes I bet he wants us to pay his wages.
Luckily, I am none of the above.

Definitely some who overreact.

I don't do away games, but so many have been saying we should set oursevles up differently away from home and it's too cautious, but I do think we shouldn't just dismiss the manager's choices and selections out of hand, because we don't see what is going on, on the training ground and on many occasions are probably not aware of players with niggling little injuries or knocks. Don't think we can just say Robins was wrong not to play Shipley yesterday for instance, because it could be that he just wasn't quite 100% fit and he had definitely been suffering with tiredness and lethargy lately.
 

Hobo

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Plenty of football left in this season yet.
 

Hobo

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Plenty of football left in this season yet - 5 points behind 2nd place with 16 games left. At this stage it doesn't matter that we are 8th.
 

Hobo

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There is, but we have to turn our away form round. That is a given.

And that's is why he brought players in in January, to give more options. But it will take 3 or 4 games for things to come together. We are still in touch that is the main thing. Easter and afterwards is where teams cement promotion.
 

Otis

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Plenty of football left in this season yet - 5 points behind 2nd place with 16 games left. At this stage it doesn't matter that we are 8th.
Yeah, 5 points behind doesn't appear that bad when you just look at it in isolation, but after Tuesday we were just 1 point behind behind 3rd and 2 points behind 2nd and now we are 5 points behind 2nd and 4 points behind 3rd.


Just shows how a single defeat changes things and the problem yesterday was that this was Forest Green, who in 13 games against top 6 sides have only won twice.

Both against us.

An improvement is clearly needed.
 

Otis

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And that's is why he brought players in in January, to give more options. But it will take 3 or 4 games for things to come together. We are still in touch that is the main thing. Easter and afterwards is where teams cement promotion.
Forest Green brought 10 players in, in the January window. Didn't do them any harm yesterday.
 

CCFC54321

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I’m convinced we won’t reach the play offs even more than ever after yesterday. In fact if Robins continues with this Doyle/Kelly partnership I’ll say we will finish half way. We’re simply good enough but we handicap ourselves all the time. We don’t score enough goals as a team and we have a mental weakness away from home. If we got into the play offs I guarantee the away fixture would trip us up.

The injury situation is an utter joke as well and I wonder if it’s more than just bad luck.
 

Adge

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Luckily, I am none of the above.

Definitely some who overreact.

I don't do away games, but so many have been saying we should set oursevles up differently away from home and it's too cautious, but I do think we shouldn't just dismiss the manager's choices and selections out of hand, because we don't see what is going on, on the training ground and on many occasions are probably not aware of players with niggling little injuries or knocks. Don't think we can just say Robins was wrong not to play Shipley yesterday for instance, because it could be that he just wasn't quite 100% fit and he had definitely been suffering with tiredness and lethargy lately.
If that was the case then why persist with Doyle at 75% and strapped up?
 

Hobo

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Forest Green brought 10 players in, in the January window. Didn't do them any harm yesterday.

1 how many of their 10 played yesterday?
2. It doesn't matter what happened yesterday, the end of season decides promotion.
3 If we don't get promotion, or, even a play off place it won't necessarily mean progress hasn't been made...but fans won't see it!!

When I was a senior manager end of year results meant a lot, monthly results were interesting; weekly and daily results less so, almost a distraction.

Basically you can over analyse things and get too hung up on blips

Solution: keep faith in your core tasks and philosophy, keep your eye and belief on the long term goal horizon.
 

Hobo

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Yeah, 5 points behind doesn't appear that bad when you just look at it in isolation, but after Tuesday we were just 1 point behind behind 3rd and 2 points behind 2nd and now we are 5 points behind 2nd and 4 points behind 3rd.


Just shows how a single defeat changes things and the problem yesterday was that this was Forest Green, who in 13 games against top 6 sides have only won twice.

Both against us.

An improvement is clearly needed.

Yes and a single win last game can get you promotion. Don't analyse every result. Stay in touch. If you can pull away fantastic; but even then teams tumble. So stay in touch and Sprint a way in last three games, that's the time to find a run.
 

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